Nimble Obstructionist seems to be on a power level somewhere around Vendillion Clique and Snapcaster Mage. Does anyone think this is the "big card" of the set --the one that will be worth money in the long run of the game? I can certainly see it being played in multiples in Modern, maybe even in some Legacy decks...
Opened this card as my pre-release promo. I think this card is super cool. The one big thing holding it back (besides costing 3 cmc, and the cycling being 3 cmc) is that you have to choose between the two modes (body or stifle+draw). Because it doesn't actually do anything onboard after casting it, I don't think it will truly ever take over formats; the cycle is slightly too expensive IMO to be oppressive. Also when it's onboard, it's kind of just a medium-sized beater. 3 power isn't bad though.
It's really easy to compare it to V-Clique, because they have somewhat similar effects, but the big difference is that V-clique is a body with an ability attached, whereas this card is either a body or a stifle+draw. You also get to abuse repeated ETB triggers with Clique (Karakas). V-clique is a better version of this card IF you elect to just cycle the bird without stifling, since Clique can target yourself and just tuck/draw if you really needed a "cycle."
Final (mostly) irrelevant tidbit: Clique can be your EDH General, but the bird wizard cannot. No point comparing Obstructionist to Snapcaster though; Snapcaster is way better.
But hey, 3 mana 3/1 flash flyer is a really good base. And it has an upside; the added flexibility from cycle is really sweet. It doesn't even require double blue.
I'm glad that WotC decided to push it a little and give us an actual ability tacked to the cycle. I was really hoping for more cards like Shefet Monitor and Complicate, where you get bonus cool effects from the actual cycling mechanic. I want to say this is the best card from the set, but I'm probably wrong and probably a little biased.
Really tempted to brew up some kind of flash/flyer Wizard variant in Modern.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
It's good design, but the issue is it's essentially a Trickbind that Cantrips for 1 additional. The option of having a 3/1 Flier with Flash for 3 in Blue is nice, but outside of EDH, the versatility isn't a reason to throw off a good curve in Blue for Modern or other competitive formats, as wasting a cantrip counter as a blocker isn't in Blue's best interest, and going aggressive with a creature with evasion isn't Blue at all (for the most part).
This card shines in Azami EDH, hardly a reason to be worth more than $2. But when you have it in that deck, prepare to lose your friends.
It's good design, but the issue is it's essentially a Trickbind that Cantrips for 1 additional. The option of having a 3/1 Flier with Flash for 3 in Blue is nice, but outside of EDH, the versatility isn't a reason to throw off a good curve in Blue for Modern or other competitive formats, as wasting a cantrip counter as a blocker isn't in Blue's best interest, and going aggressive with a creature with evasion isn't Blue at all (for the most part).
This card shines in Azami EDH, hardly a reason to be worth more than $2. But when you have it in that deck, prepare to lose your friends.
I mean, Idk, that sounds a lot like blue actually...
Blue flyers tempo-style is definitely within its territory. Almost any given format features this. Pauper has plenty of Delver variants on top of Ninja of the Deep Hours + Cloud of Faeries + plenty of other Faeries. Then Standard has UW Spirits (several iterations over several standard formats). In Limited, it's one of the hallmark strategies to blue (especially UW). Modern and Legacy all feature Delver strategies, Geist of Saint Traft (well...once upon a time), UB Faeries (which is basically a port from Standard/Extended), Spirits, UWR Counter-burn (Featuring Spell Queller, Snapcaster Beats), etc. There's plenty of examples everywhere. I think it's actually a pretty prominent part of blue's identity.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
It's good design, but the issue is it's essentially a Trickbind that Cantrips for 1 additional. The option of having a 3/1 Flier with Flash for 3 in Blue is nice, but outside of EDH, the versatility isn't a reason to throw off a good curve in Blue for Modern or other competitive formats, as wasting a cantrip counter as a blocker isn't in Blue's best interest, and going aggressive with a creature with evasion isn't Blue at all (for the most part).
This card shines in Azami EDH, hardly a reason to be worth more than $2. But when you have it in that deck, prepare to lose your friends.
I mean, Idk, that sounds a lot like blue actually...
Blue flyers tempo-style is definitely within its territory. Almost any given format features this. Pauper has plenty of Delver variants on top of Ninja of the Deep Hours + Cloud of Faeries + plenty of other Faeries. Then Standard has UW Spirits (several iterations over several standard formats). In Limited, it's one of the hallmark strategies to blue (especially UW). Modern and Legacy all feature Delver strategies, Geist of Saint Traft (well...once upon a time), UB Faeries (which is basically a port from Standard/Extended), Spirits, UWR Counter-burn (Featuring Spell Queller, Snapcaster Beats), etc. There's plenty of examples everywhere. I think it's actually a pretty prominent part of blue's identity.
Not really. The Blue that wants to counter and control isn't relying on creatures to finish someone off.
Reprints the one card that people point to when saying that art objectifies women.
Well done Wizards.
Liliana does not objectify women in any way at all. We have gotten to a point in our society that every single picture of a women must be objectifying a women in some negative way......blah blah blah.. That is not the case. (((Sarcasm)))Picture of a girl drinking a milk shake, must be sex related and putting women down, picture of girl sitting on a beach, picture of a girl driving a car, picture of a girl on the moon at a new space station.)))
You have a picture of an attractive strong power women who girls dress up as for anime conventions. What more do you want? The picture is fine, happy to see a reprint. Sick of of seeing people claim that everything in existence must be putting women down. Then all I have to do is replace the word "women" with anything else to get the same mentality; fish, cats, arabs, blacks, jews, men, environment, whites, chinese, old people, etc. It doesn't matter what word I put in. Stop sucking life out of everything man. That artwork of her is awesome. Stop putting stuff down man. Just stop. If the picture was really as negative as you claim she would totally nude, in a kitchen, making sandwiches and giving blow jobs. Her abilities would be horrible as well. +1 do nothing -2 do nothing -6 do nothing. Instead liliana of the veil is an amazing planeswalker comparable to jace, the mind sculpter with great art to appreciate.
My suggestion listen to some comedy radio for a while, pandora is free, youtube is free there is something out there for you. ***** go make fun of somebody. The whole world is so serious and campaigning for some cause, or someones rights, everything is a hate crime, racist, sexist. blah blah blah.
"O no mcdonalds must be slandering a hate crime against skinny people every time they make a big mac." hahaha jeeze You're just someone perpetuating another groups negative perspective that they've made you believe is correct. Look at the picture for a hour and tell me what's wrong with it? I don't see anything.
I have heard vague rumors of a moustache-dispensing vending machine in a distant laundromat, across the street from a tattoo parlor. However, this information is shaky, and time is of the essence.
This card is actually good... but not to the power level of Clique or snapcaster... reason being you have to cycle the obstructionist to use it's effect... and by doing so, you will not have a 3/1 beat stick in the air...
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It's really easy to compare it to V-Clique, because they have somewhat similar effects, but the big difference is that V-clique is a body with an ability attached, whereas this card is either a body or a stifle+draw. You also get to abuse repeated ETB triggers with Clique (Karakas). V-clique is a better version of this card IF you elect to just cycle the bird without stifling, since Clique can target yourself and just tuck/draw if you really needed a "cycle."
Final (mostly) irrelevant tidbit: Clique can be your EDH General, but the bird wizard cannot. No point comparing Obstructionist to Snapcaster though; Snapcaster is way better.
But hey, 3 mana 3/1 flash flyer is a really good base. And it has an upside; the added flexibility from cycle is really sweet. It doesn't even require double blue.
I'm glad that WotC decided to push it a little and give us an actual ability tacked to the cycle. I was really hoping for more cards like Shefet Monitor and Complicate, where you get bonus cool effects from the actual cycling mechanic. I want to say this is the best card from the set, but I'm probably wrong and probably a little biased.
Really tempted to brew up some kind of flash/flyer Wizard variant in Modern.
This card shines in Azami EDH, hardly a reason to be worth more than $2. But when you have it in that deck, prepare to lose your friends.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
I mean, Idk, that sounds a lot like blue actually...
Blue flyers tempo-style is definitely within its territory. Almost any given format features this. Pauper has plenty of Delver variants on top of Ninja of the Deep Hours + Cloud of Faeries + plenty of other Faeries. Then Standard has UW Spirits (several iterations over several standard formats). In Limited, it's one of the hallmark strategies to blue (especially UW). Modern and Legacy all feature Delver strategies, Geist of Saint Traft (well...once upon a time), UB Faeries (which is basically a port from Standard/Extended), Spirits, UWR Counter-burn (Featuring Spell Queller, Snapcaster Beats), etc. There's plenty of examples everywhere. I think it's actually a pretty prominent part of blue's identity.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
So what does it rely on?