I was looking at the presale prices of some of these new cards to see if it is better to buy the deck for the cards I want or just buy singles and WOAH... the red planeswalker is at $20, Dualcaster is at $15 and Wurmcoil is at $10. That's already $10 above MSRP with 97 other cards in the deck. Is it going to be impossible to pick up this deck for less than $50?
EDIT - And before people start saying "Just go to the big box stores to get one", remember that not everyone has access to these stores, may choose not to support their business model or, and this happens often, hoarders/scalpers will hit every store in town the morning they are released and buy up every single copy so it is next to impossible to find one anywhere at less than twice the MSRP.
DOUBLE EDIT - Sorry, just realized I should've posted this in Speculation. Mods relocate it as deemed fit...
I'd imagine the prices will drop after the set is released. The print run will probably be a little bit larger than last time to avoid situations like Mind Seize. However, it will probably still be easier to just buy it at a Wal Mart or Target or something. Or you could preorder, that's what I ended up deciding to do.
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I think it'll be the most valuable of the 5 decks, but I think it will not be as scarce/hoarded like Mind Seize.
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They are going to print to demand. Wizards printed more Mind Seizes in the second print run than the others, so there won't be a shortage in the long run. And after the success of last year's Commander decks, Wizards is probably going to be flooding the markets with them.
I see someone is assuming Wurmcoil is in the red deck.
Not saying it won't be, as it certainly makes sense there next to Feldon and Daretti, but I don't think we've had Wurmcoil's deck spoilt yet, correct? I'm not getting onboard the Red Train until that happens.
True-Name Nemesis was the real offender in Mind Seize. None of the new cards spoiled so far approaches that level of playability in legacy, and all the money reprints will plummet in value as this set is printed to demand.
I preordered the deck right now for 28€, which equals to 35$. Since it is the only deck I'm going to buy (with a few single cards from the white deck, which I'm going to pick up separately...), I thought, I could invest this much.
You can buy Mind Seize right now on even Amazon for $31 shipped. Built from Scratch might be hard to find at first, depending on location, but unless it's a limited product you'll at least be able to get it for MSRP eventually.
Now that we have the whole decklists, I believe White and Red will be the best ones, value-wise, in the short term. Black has one removal spell going for it, Green has a single potentially playable fat creature, and the blue deck has... basically nothing interesting. I usually buy a whole playset of these guys, but this go around I'm passing on that in favor of a few of the Red and White ones. The other singles should be cheap.
I agree red looks quite valuable, however the white hatebear may actually by the chase legacy card and real True-name Nemesis. I personally think green has higher value than it's credited for, due to high value of many of the commons and uncommon, and black has a high number of good cards. Really the only bad value looks to be blue.
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I agree red looks quite valuable, however the white hatebear may actually by the chase legacy card and real True-name Nemesis. I personally think green has higher value than it's credited for, due to high value of many of the commons and uncommon, and black has a high number of good cards. Really the only bad value looks to be blue.
I'm pretty sure the new hatebear is not going to be the new True-name Nemesis. True-name Nemesis can be played in a lot of decks, is blue which everybody plays anyway, it has 3 power and is tough to get by. The new hatebear needs the right deck in the right situation. Don't misunderstand me, it's a great card and will see a lot of play, but not to the extent of a True-name Nemesis. I'm pretty sure of that.
I see someone is assuming Wurmcoil is in the red deck.
Not saying it won't be, as it certainly makes sense there next to Feldon and Daretti, but I don't think we've had Wurmcoil's deck spoilt yet, correct? I'm not getting onboard the Red Train until that happens.
Okay, Wurmcoil is confirmed in the red deck.
All aboard the Red Train! Toot toot!
Song is good, don't get me wrong, but I can only see it being played in Commander. Where does a green O-ring go in legacy? Sideboard tech for Elves versus Sneak and Show? Seems narrow.
Dualcaster and Containment Priest, on the other hand, have the potential to be cross-format players in Vintage and Legacy.
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EDIT - And before people start saying "Just go to the big box stores to get one", remember that not everyone has access to these stores, may choose not to support their business model or, and this happens often, hoarders/scalpers will hit every store in town the morning they are released and buy up every single copy so it is next to impossible to find one anywhere at less than twice the MSRP.
DOUBLE EDIT - Sorry, just realized I should've posted this in Speculation. Mods relocate it as deemed fit...
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RFeldon of the Third PathR
UBWrexial, the Risen DeepUB
BGWDoran, the Siege TowerBGW
(2/W)(2/U)(2/B)(2/R)(2/G)Reaper King(2/W)(2/U)(2/B)(2/R)(2/G)
EDH:
GRW Marath, Will of the Wild
GB Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
GR Ruric Thar, the Unbowed
UR Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
R Feldon of the Third Path
B King Macar, the Gold-Cursed
Not saying it won't be, as it certainly makes sense there next to Feldon and Daretti, but I don't think we've had Wurmcoil's deck spoilt yet, correct? I'm not getting onboard the Red Train until that happens.
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Arpeggio of Blue Steel: Iona, Kirishima, Kongou.
Dangan Ronpa: Asahina, Togami.
Freezing: Vibration: Chiffon, Satelizer.
Vanguard Clans Favoured
Angel Feather, Dark Irregulars, Genesis, Neonecter, Pale Moon, Shadow Paladins, Tachikaze.
Wixoss - Just trial decks for now!
I'm pretty sure the new hatebear is not going to be the new True-name Nemesis. True-name Nemesis can be played in a lot of decks, is blue which everybody plays anyway, it has 3 power and is tough to get by. The new hatebear needs the right deck in the right situation. Don't misunderstand me, it's a great card and will see a lot of play, but not to the extent of a True-name Nemesis. I'm pretty sure of that.
Okay, Wurmcoil is confirmed in the red deck.
All aboard the Red Train! Toot toot!
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Dualcaster and Containment Priest, on the other hand, have the potential to be cross-format players in Vintage and Legacy.