The uncommons listed are foil, and the Divinity of Pride and Auriok Salvagers were also foil. TCGPlayer low lists this at $242 (with none as foils), so overall I am very satisfied with my pulls. I tend to sell on eBay at just under TCGPlayer low, so if you take away eBay fees and shipping costs, I'd say the total value of my pulls is probably right around $192 (so, as an investment, I made about $20). Although, since I don't intend to sell all of them right now, it would have cost me at least TCGPlayer low to acquire all of these cards, so I would say I did even better. Not to mention that this was the most fun I had drafting ever.
I'm probably crazy and I know most will say so, but...
After examining posts in this thread, my own and friend's boxes, and reports from seven 8-player pod drafts at my main LGS, I do not think the Mythic distribution is equal.
Out of a grand total of 10 boxes mentioned above, NOT ONE TARMOGOYF was pulled. Not. One. On the flip side, Kamigawa dragons have been scarce. Meanwhile it seems like EVERYONE is pulling Cliques, Elspeths and Swords.
Broken even I think. If I had a lot of these cards it would be a different story but most of these are not trade bait and are cards i would eventually have to buy. Mythics were terrible but 2 foil malestrom pulse in the same box was funny.
I'm probably crazy and I know most will say so, but...
After examining posts in this thread, my own and friend's boxes, and reports from seven 8-player pod drafts at my main LGS, I do not think the Mythic distribution is equal.
Out of a grand total of 10 boxes mentioned above, NOT ONE TARMOGOYF was pulled.
If opening 240 loose packs, the odds of not pulling a Tarmogoyf are (120/121)^240 = 13.65%.
If we instead assume that each box holds a 24/121 chance of a Tarmogoyf (and that no box will ever have two), the odds drop to 10.96%. Reality is probably somewhere between these two numbers.
So while you definitely pulled the short end of the stick, it's entirely within the realm of possibility.
Girlfriend bought a couple boxes as suprise, she told me a couple weeks ago about them, and only 1 has shown up.
Pulled a goyf, KOTR, Kataki, Foil Kataki, Aether Vial, Sarkhan Vol, Progenitus, Arcbound Ravager, Lotus Bloom, Sword of Fire and Ice, Academy Ruins, Blinkmoth Nexus, Kira, Extripate. Can't remember what else, but she paid under retail for the box.
Only got 1 finks, but probably 3, maybe 4 spell snares.
So Im at a point where I have my box and havent opened it yet. Id pay 240 for it, and I was thinking of not opening it. Is this the best course of action?
I don't really feel like I made off like a bandit or anything, but I definitely got my money's worth, and it was fun as hell to draft, so yeah. It was worth it.
I think you would also find it amazing how often getting a number of decent $8-$11 rares makes opening the box worth it, considering the money is actually in the foils, uncommons and the one or two lucky $30 bomb.
Myself, I've opened two of the four boxes I've gotten and have formed the opinion that getting a Red Dragon in your box is the box's way of telling you you screwed up.
In both cases I received a Ryusei, I got only one other mythic (in both cases, a dragon, the blue and black ones respectively) and a lot of very poor rares.
It's making it very hard for me not to open at least one of the next two boxes to see if something better is in one of them
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I bought 3 boxes at 160. I kept a tarmogoyf, sword of light and shadow, and aether vial and 2 loams. The rest I sold at GP Providence for all my money back plus 4 foil nimble mongeese. Not sure the entire list I sold, all the money uncommons (I kept 4 finks) foil grand arbiter, foil squee, elspeth were among the list, gave a bob to a friend. I was lucky, 3 boxes and no kami dragons.
I bought 3 boxes at 160. I kept a tarmogoyf, sword of light and shadow, and aether vial and 2 loams. The rest I sold at GP Providence for all my money back plus 4 foil nimble mongeese. Not sure the entire list I sold, all the money uncommons (I kept 4 finks) foil grand arbiter, foil squee, elspeth were among the list, gave a bob to a friend. I was lucky, 3 boxes and no kami dragons.
I would suggest not commenting on this forum that you bought multiple boxes of MM under MSRP, which unsurprisingly would leave you to be able to keep some key pulls and still make your money back. It's hard for the above comment to not come off as bragging. You can easily state the same without mentioning price. If on the other hand you are offering others a way to buy boxes anywhere close to that amount, that information would be well received! =)
I would suggest not commenting on this forum that you bought multiple boxes of MM under MSRP, which unsurprisingly would leave you to be able to keep some key pulls and still make your money back. It's hard for the above comment to not come off as bragging. You can easily state the same without mentioning price. If on the other hand you are offering others a way to buy boxes anywhere close to that amount, that information would be well received! =)
You do realize this thread is legitimately asking users whether their box was worth it? Worth is entirely based on purchase price.
This is my box, plus foil lighting helix, and manamorphose, also got good uncommons as eternal witness, spell snare, path to exile, kitchen flinks and playset of murderous redcap. Also, 2 cryptic commands in 1 pack was awsome.
1 Molten Disaster
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 Keiga, the Tide Star
1 Jugan, the Rising Star (foil)
1 Sarkhan Vol
1 Earwig Squad
2 Doubling Season (1 is foil)
1 Rude Awakening
1 Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
1 Jhoira of the Ghitu
1 Demigod of Revenge
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Pyromancer's Swath
1 Ryusei, the Falling Star
1 Reveillark
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
1 Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
1 Pact of Negation
1 Death Cloud
1 Blood Moon
1 Cold-Eyed Selkie
1 Glimmervoid
1 City of Brass (immediately traded toward a 2nd Gifts Ungiven)
Among Unco of interest,
6 Manamorphose (1 is foil)
3 Lightning Hélix
2 Path to Exile
2 Finks
1 Spell Snare
1 foil Relic of Progenitus
1 foil Street Wraith
1 foil Narcomoeba
Had to split the box value with a friend though. Couldn't afford the 200$ pricetag (plus 15% sale taxes for a whooping 230$) alone.
Could have another shot at it when second wave hit the shelves. There is a small bookstore/tabletop games that usually keeps some MtG products. A friend of mine bought a box from them for 86$. The owner of the shop apparently sells his MM stuff for two thirds of regular product's prices, since there is only 2/3 of the usual number of boosters in there. Just reserved 3 boxes: one for me, and 2 for resale at "affordable" price on eBay or such. Really hope he'll get some more!
You do realize this thread is legitimately asking users whether their box was worth it? Worth is entirely based on purchase price.
Worth has nothing to do with purchase price. Worth has to do with market price and what the box would have been worth if you re-sold it instead of opening it up.
If I went out and paid $10 for a MM box and resold it for $100, was it worth it to me? I may have made a nice profit off my original investment, but I thoroughly shot myself in the foot by selling it at 40% of market value. Whether you purchase your box for $150, $180 or $240 it doesn't matter, the opportunity cost of opening it instead of reselling it is the same.
Worth has nothing to do with purchase price. Worth has to do with market price and what the box would have been worth if you re-sold it instead of opening it up.
If I went out and paid $10 for a MM box and resold it for $100, was it worth it to me? I may have made a nice profit off my original investment, but I thoroughly shot myself in the foot by selling it at 40% of market value. Whether you purchase your box for $150, $180 or $240 it doesn't matter, the opportunity cost of opening it instead of reselling it is the same.
Uh, box price does matter. My pulls that I got for the box that I paid 150.00 for was worth it. If I would have paid 300.00 for the same then it would not have been worth it. I still don't see how a price of a box not a factor in worth.
Uh, box price does matter. My pulls that I got for the box that I paid 150.00 for was worth it. If I would have paid 300.00 for the same then it would not have been worth it. I still don't see how a price of a box not a factor in worth.
What he means is that you still have potential loss from opening instead of selling even if your overall gains are higher than your losses. It's a somewhat contorted way of looking at the situation because it assumes a specific value for the boxes in the future.
There were enough people in denial about the 2nd print run and I am sure that people would still be in denial by the time they announce even more print runs.
The way I'm looking at it I netted $130 off a $300 investment which is a pretty good deal. I'm happy to take the 40% profit and use it to buy singles after the print waves of MM start to flood the market. This way I don't have to go through the trouble of unloading the virtual value of product or gambling about which money card I actually want to open.
What he means is that you still have potential loss from opening instead of selling even if your overall gains are higher than your losses. It's a somewhat contorted way of looking at the situation because it assumes a specific value for the boxes in the future.
There were enough people in denial about the 2nd print run and I am sure that people would still be in denial by the time they announce even more print runs.
The way I'm looking at it I netted $130 off a $300 investment which is a pretty good deal. I'm happy to take the 40% profit and use it to buy singles after the print waves of MM start to flood the market. This way I don't have to go through the trouble of unloading the virtual value of product or gambling about which money card I actually want to open.
So you don't believe WotC when they stated this will be a very short print run and that it will be far more limited then any normal set? They said its just above the print run of a FTV set and slightly more abundant.
Keep in mind this is a company that made a promise about never printing certain cards ever again and has kept that promise. They did print some of those cards in foil but that was an exception that was now closed.
Uh, box price does matter. My pulls that I got for the box that I paid 150.00 for was worth it. If I would have paid 300.00 for the same then it would not have been worth it. I still don't see how a price of a box not a factor in worth.
No, what you paid for the box doesn't matter. Whatever you paid for it is a sunk cost and has no bearing on the future or the best way to maximize your profits from the box. After it's in your possession you have 3 options:
1) Re-sell it unopened immediately.
2) Open it up and sell/keep the cards. Please note that this option may have other intrinsic value to the holder. Maybe you get $20 worth of enjoyment from opening and sorting through a box. Maybe you and 7 friends get $50 worth of enjoyment from drafting it out and playing with the cards for 3 hours. All of this needs to be factored in to determine if it's worth it to open a box.
3) Hold on to it for an indeterminate amount of time and then do either 1 or 2.
Those are your 3 options. It's up to you to evaluate each of the 3 options and determine which one would provide you the most value. If you choose to do #2 and open the box, what you're giving up is the chance to re-sell it (#1) and you're stating that you think #2 will provide more value to you than #1.
What he means is that you still have potential loss from opening instead of selling even if your overall gains are higher than your losses. It's a somewhat contorted way of looking at the situation because it assumes a specific value for the boxes in the future.
It's not really convoluted in the least, it's just the basic concept of sunk cost and opportunity cost. I also don't assume any specific future value of the box, I'm just looking at what he could re-sell the box for right now. Going into future values is a fair bit trickier and is not without risk.
Let me put it another way, imagine I find a mint Alpha Black Lotus at a flea market for $5 and buy it, should I turn around and resell it for $7? That would be a nice tidy profit of 40%, but was doing the second transaction worth it to me? If you're a fan of the game, the answer should be pretty clearly no. I would be selling something worth thousands of dollars for $7 just because I happened to buy it for even cheaper, which is a foolish way to do business.
Whatever you pay to acquire an asset is gone forever and a sunk cost. It's never coming back. When you determine what to do with that asset, you have to evaluate the current gain you could get from every option. The opportunity cost of selecting one option is equal to the maximum amount of money you could have got from the next most valuable action.
I was annoyed by my MM box but I voted yes anyway. I had one mythic rare, one mythic foil and one rare foil. No big money cards, but some fun cards I'd never owned and a foil Sarkhan Vol. I checked with CFB and their buy list prices on my rares would more than pay for the box.
I paid 240 for mine, and using the avg price on TCG and pretty much always rounding down I finished around 250, plus a bunch of extra commons/uncommons that could be useful in commander or other decks.
I cracked my two boxes tonight. The first pack I opened had a Goyf. Pretty much downhill from there. The 2nd box only had one mythic and it was Kokusho.
I paid 127 for one, 200 for the 2nd. I'm not going to bothers stating the retail value of the cards but if we're talking about value.....I got a bunch of great cards, had a blast opening them, and will add them to my collection. I'm not strictly a collector. I play with friends anytime we can all get together. The occasional FNM or prerelease if i can. We are family men now. What started out as a kids game that we picked up in comic stores in '94 has given us a lot of great memories. The point is, it's a game. It's fun to get together and play with friends. Yes, I am very aware of the value of my cards and I do enjoy my collection. But, it's not about the value to me. It's about a complex social game and adding more cards to my pool of choices to build from is always a good thing. I like this set very much. Wizards and their customers deserve it. Even if I the game is so popular now that the S in MSRP is silent.
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1 Glimmervoid
1 Paradise Mantle
1 Aether Vial
1 Path to Exile
1 Arcbound Ravager
1 Life from the Loam
1 Lightning Helix
1 Manamorphose
1 Molten Disaster
1 Death Cloud
1 Jhoira of the Ghitu
1 Kitchen Finks
1 Maelstrom Pulse
1 Mind Funeral
1 Pyromancer's Swath
1 Scion of Oona
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 Sword of Fire and Ice
1 Vendilion Clique
1 Auriok Salvagers
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Divinity of Pride
1 Doubling Season
1 Reveillark
1 Stonehewer Giant
1 Adarkar Valkyrie
1 Kokusho, the Evening Star
1 Skeletal Vampire
1 Verdeloth the Ancient
1 Tombstalker
1 Dragonstorm
The uncommons listed are foil, and the Divinity of Pride and Auriok Salvagers were also foil. TCGPlayer low lists this at $242 (with none as foils), so overall I am very satisfied with my pulls. I tend to sell on eBay at just under TCGPlayer low, so if you take away eBay fees and shipping costs, I'd say the total value of my pulls is probably right around $192 (so, as an investment, I made about $20). Although, since I don't intend to sell all of them right now, it would have cost me at least TCGPlayer low to acquire all of these cards, so I would say I did even better. Not to mention that this was the most fun I had drafting ever.
Modern - UG Mana Denial GU
. . . . . . .
WBG Melira Pod GBWCommander - BR Olivia Voldaren RB Vampire Tribal
. . . . . . . . . WUB Sharuum the Hegemon BUW Not-Broken Artifact Midrange
. . . . . . . . . WUG Rafiq of the Many GUW Voltron
. . . . . . . . . . .UB Oona, Queen of the Fae BU No-combo Tempo-Mill
. . . . . . . . . WUB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic BUW Pillow Fort
After examining posts in this thread, my own and friend's boxes, and reports from seven 8-player pod drafts at my main LGS, I do not think the Mythic distribution is equal.
Out of a grand total of 10 boxes mentioned above, NOT ONE TARMOGOYF was pulled. Not. One. On the flip side, Kamigawa dragons have been scarce. Meanwhile it seems like EVERYONE is pulling Cliques, Elspeths and Swords.
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If opening 240 loose packs, the odds of not pulling a Tarmogoyf are (120/121)^240 = 13.65%.
If we instead assume that each box holds a 24/121 chance of a Tarmogoyf (and that no box will ever have two), the odds drop to 10.96%. Reality is probably somewhere between these two numbers.
So while you definitely pulled the short end of the stick, it's entirely within the realm of possibility.
Pulled a goyf, KOTR, Kataki, Foil Kataki, Aether Vial, Sarkhan Vol, Progenitus, Arcbound Ravager, Lotus Bloom, Sword of Fire and Ice, Academy Ruins, Blinkmoth Nexus, Kira, Extripate. Can't remember what else, but she paid under retail for the box.
Only got 1 finks, but probably 3, maybe 4 spell snares.
Bob
Clique
Goyf
2 Kiki
Black Dragon
Red Dragon
Shackles
Foil Arbiter
Foil Vial
Command
Pulse
Bunch of commons/uncommons that gave me an awesome base of otherwise non existent modern card pool.
Standard
W.I.P.
EDH
WNorn Tokens
FOIL Glen Elendra Archmage
FOIL
Notable Uncommons/Foils
2x
FOIL Grapeshot
FOIL
I don't really feel like I made off like a bandit or anything, but I definitely got my money's worth, and it was fun as hell to draft, so yeah. It was worth it.
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Myself, I've opened two of the four boxes I've gotten and have formed the opinion that getting a Red Dragon in your box is the box's way of telling you you screwed up.
In both cases I received a Ryusei, I got only one other mythic (in both cases, a dragon, the blue and black ones respectively) and a lot of very poor rares.
It's making it very hard for me not to open at least one of the next two boxes to see if something better is in one of them
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You're lucky if you don't see one in your box. It's a shame they eat up so many spots.
I cracked about 4.5 boxes and ended up with:
2x Keiga
1x Kokusho
2x Yosei (1 Foil)
2x Ryusei
1x Jugan
Five out of fifteen is not a majority.
I would suggest not commenting on this forum that you bought multiple boxes of MM under MSRP, which unsurprisingly would leave you to be able to keep some key pulls and still make your money back. It's hard for the above comment to not come off as bragging. You can easily state the same without mentioning price. If on the other hand you are offering others a way to buy boxes anywhere close to that amount, that information would be well received! =)
True, how about significant portion?
You do realize this thread is legitimately asking users whether their box was worth it? Worth is entirely based on purchase price.
This is my box, plus foil lighting helix, and manamorphose, also got good uncommons as eternal witness, spell snare, path to exile, kitchen flinks and playset of murderous redcap. Also, 2 cryptic commands in 1 pack was awsome.
WUBRGProgenitusWUBRG
URGAnimar Soul of ElementsURG
UBGThe MiemoplasmUBG
1 Molten Disaster
1 Squee, Goblin Nabob
1 Keiga, the Tide Star
1 Jugan, the Rising Star (foil)
1 Sarkhan Vol
1 Earwig Squad
2 Doubling Season (1 is foil)
1 Rude Awakening
1 Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
1 Jhoira of the Ghitu
1 Demigod of Revenge
1 Chalice of the Void
1 Engineered Explosives
1 Pyromancer's Swath
1 Ryusei, the Falling Star
1 Reveillark
1 Gifts Ungiven
1 Glen Elendra Archmage
1 Kira, Great Glass-Spinner
1 Pact of Negation
1 Death Cloud
1 Blood Moon
1 Cold-Eyed Selkie
1 Glimmervoid
1 City of Brass (immediately traded toward a 2nd Gifts Ungiven)
Among Unco of interest,
6 Manamorphose (1 is foil)
3 Lightning Hélix
2 Path to Exile
2 Finks
1 Spell Snare
1 foil Relic of Progenitus
1 foil Street Wraith
1 foil Narcomoeba
Had to split the box value with a friend though. Couldn't afford the 200$ pricetag (plus 15% sale taxes for a whooping 230$) alone.
Could have another shot at it when second wave hit the shelves. There is a small bookstore/tabletop games that usually keeps some MtG products. A friend of mine bought a box from them for 86$. The owner of the shop apparently sells his MM stuff for two thirds of regular product's prices, since there is only 2/3 of the usual number of boosters in there. Just reserved 3 boxes: one for me, and 2 for resale at "affordable" price on eBay or such. Really hope he'll get some more!
Worth has nothing to do with purchase price. Worth has to do with market price and what the box would have been worth if you re-sold it instead of opening it up.
If I went out and paid $10 for a MM box and resold it for $100, was it worth it to me? I may have made a nice profit off my original investment, but I thoroughly shot myself in the foot by selling it at 40% of market value. Whether you purchase your box for $150, $180 or $240 it doesn't matter, the opportunity cost of opening it instead of reselling it is the same.
Uh, box price does matter. My pulls that I got for the box that I paid 150.00 for was worth it. If I would have paid 300.00 for the same then it would not have been worth it. I still don't see how a price of a box not a factor in worth.
Foil tarmogoyf
sword of fire and ice
doubling season
arcbound ravager
Knight of the Reliquary
2 gift's ungiven
2 aether vials
2 Grand Arbiter Augustin IV
tooth and nail
summoner's pact
pact of negation
blood moon
woodfall primus
maelstrom pulse
stonehewer giant
ethersworn canonist
figure of destiny
mind funeral
2 spellsnare
2 path to exile
kitchen finks
3 trygon predator
lightning helix
eternal witness
Narcomoeba x4 1 foil
What he means is that you still have potential loss from opening instead of selling even if your overall gains are higher than your losses. It's a somewhat contorted way of looking at the situation because it assumes a specific value for the boxes in the future.
There were enough people in denial about the 2nd print run and I am sure that people would still be in denial by the time they announce even more print runs.
The way I'm looking at it I netted $130 off a $300 investment which is a pretty good deal. I'm happy to take the 40% profit and use it to buy singles after the print waves of MM start to flood the market. This way I don't have to go through the trouble of unloading the virtual value of product or gambling about which money card I actually want to open.
So you don't believe WotC when they stated this will be a very short print run and that it will be far more limited then any normal set? They said its just above the print run of a FTV set and slightly more abundant.
Keep in mind this is a company that made a promise about never printing certain cards ever again and has kept that promise. They did print some of those cards in foil but that was an exception that was now closed.
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No, what you paid for the box doesn't matter. Whatever you paid for it is a sunk cost and has no bearing on the future or the best way to maximize your profits from the box. After it's in your possession you have 3 options:
1) Re-sell it unopened immediately.
2) Open it up and sell/keep the cards. Please note that this option may have other intrinsic value to the holder. Maybe you get $20 worth of enjoyment from opening and sorting through a box. Maybe you and 7 friends get $50 worth of enjoyment from drafting it out and playing with the cards for 3 hours. All of this needs to be factored in to determine if it's worth it to open a box.
3) Hold on to it for an indeterminate amount of time and then do either 1 or 2.
Those are your 3 options. It's up to you to evaluate each of the 3 options and determine which one would provide you the most value. If you choose to do #2 and open the box, what you're giving up is the chance to re-sell it (#1) and you're stating that you think #2 will provide more value to you than #1.
It's not really convoluted in the least, it's just the basic concept of sunk cost and opportunity cost. I also don't assume any specific future value of the box, I'm just looking at what he could re-sell the box for right now. Going into future values is a fair bit trickier and is not without risk.
Let me put it another way, imagine I find a mint Alpha Black Lotus at a flea market for $5 and buy it, should I turn around and resell it for $7? That would be a nice tidy profit of 40%, but was doing the second transaction worth it to me? If you're a fan of the game, the answer should be pretty clearly no. I would be selling something worth thousands of dollars for $7 just because I happened to buy it for even cheaper, which is a foolish way to do business.
Whatever you pay to acquire an asset is gone forever and a sunk cost. It's never coming back. When you determine what to do with that asset, you have to evaluate the current gain you could get from every option. The opportunity cost of selecting one option is equal to the maximum amount of money you could have got from the next most valuable action.
So, I'm voting yes, but not YES!
Mythics
Vendillion Clique
Kokusho, the Evening Star
Ryusei, the Falling Star
2/3 mythics were dragons, not great but at least there was a Clique.
Rares
Doubling Season
Summoner's Pact
Summoner's Pact (Foil)
Aether Vial
Glimmervoid
Tooth and Nail
Blinkmoth Nexus
Blinkmoth Nexus (Foil)
Glen Elendra Archmage
Gifts Ungiven
Chalice of the Void
Knight of the Reliquary
Meloku the Clouded Mirror
Grand Arbiter Augustine IV
Ethersworn Canonist
Kataki, War's Wage
Demigod of Revenge
Jhoria of the Ghitu
Stonehewer Giant
Dragonstorm
Deathcloud
Cold Eyed Selkie
Counrtyside Crusher
Uncommons
Spell Snare (2)
Lightning Helix
Lightning Helix (Foil)
Mind Funeral
Electrolyze
Murderous Redcap (2)
Kitchen Finks
Eternal Witness
Paradise Mantle
Narcomeba
Flickerwisp
Manamorphose (Foil)
Commons
Lava Spike (Foil)
Kodoma's Reach (Foil)
Empty the Warrens (Foil)
I'm happy overall, and if you add any value to drafting it's even better. I wouldn't be terribly opposed to getting a second box.
I paid 127 for one, 200 for the 2nd. I'm not going to bothers stating the retail value of the cards but if we're talking about value.....I got a bunch of great cards, had a blast opening them, and will add them to my collection. I'm not strictly a collector. I play with friends anytime we can all get together. The occasional FNM or prerelease if i can. We are family men now. What started out as a kids game that we picked up in comic stores in '94 has given us a lot of great memories. The point is, it's a game. It's fun to get together and play with friends. Yes, I am very aware of the value of my cards and I do enjoy my collection. But, it's not about the value to me. It's about a complex social game and adding more cards to my pool of choices to build from is always a good thing. I like this set very much. Wizards and their customers deserve it. Even if I the game is so popular now that the S in MSRP is silent.