I have only noticed one big thing here... according to these boxes and other boxes my friends have opened (mostly Korean boxes), if you open Jace, Architect of Thought you will not get Vraska the Unseen and vice-versa. Can anyone else confirm this?
If this is true, then it might be possible to at least partially map these boxes. When I went to prerelease, Vraska was never pulled in the same box (pod) as someone who got a Jace.
I thought packs were packed from Bottom-Left to Top-Right order (and went to order my cards that way), but its possible to figure out the exact format of my box since I placed them in a binder in order (Which literally means all my left column oacjs are on the left column of the binder pages.)
Rest in Peace
Pack Rat
Dreadbore
Necropolis Regent (Drainpipe Vermin)
Underworld Connections
Counterflux
Mana Bloom
Steam Vents
Sphinx's Revelation
Jarad's Orders
Wild Beastmaster
Grove of the Guardian (Traitorous Instinct)
Carnival Hellsteed
Chaos Imps (Chorus of Might)
Growing Ranks
Deadbridge Goliath
Ash Zealot
Wild Beastmaster
Grave Betrayal
Temple Garden
Search the City
Palisade Giant
Precinct Captain
Rest in Peace
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius
Jace, Architect of Thought
Collective Blessing
Azor's Elocutors
Cryptborn Horror (Concordia Pegasus)
Grove of the Guardian
Sphinx of the Chimes
Wayfaring Temple
Blood Crypt (Runewing)
Hypersonic Dragon (Plains)
Supreme Verdict
Volatile Rig
<33 Not too shabby
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Originally posted by Rywads Having a foiled set of avacyn's pilgrims must be on the same level as a dude who puts expensive spinner hubcaps on an old Honda Civic.
this is part of a case, but since im now unsure if I did the numbering of the boxes right, i'll just give the box data.... just note its part of a case....
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Made in the USA
Code: 4NQI7LB Foil
Mythic Mythic Foil
Left:
Pack Rat
Firemind's Foresight
Loxodon Smiter
Azor's Elocutors (Forest)
Epic Experiment
Carnival Hellsteed
Collective Blessing (Axebane Stag)
Steam Vents
Cryptborn Horror
Counterflux
Archon of the Triumvirate
Temple Garden
Middle:
Supreme Verdict (Isperia's Skywatch)
Martial Law
Jarad's Orders
Chaos Imps
Hypersonic Dragon
Angel of Serenity (Eyes in the Sky)
Deathrite Shaman
Dreadbore
Armada Wurm (Teleportal)
Mercurial Chemister
Sphinx of the Chimes
Deadbridge Goliath
Right:
Steam Vents
Slaughter Games
Vraska the Unseen
Grave Betrayal (Rakdos Guildgate)
Guild Fued
Chromatic Lantern (Volatile Rig)
Conjured Currency
Underworld Connections
Ash Zealot
Overgrown Tomb
Mizzium Mortars
Rakdos, Lord of Riots (Sewer Shambler)
Right:
Jace, Architect of Thought
Azor's Elocutors
Havoc Festival
Mana Bloom
Ash Zealot, Phantom General
Counterflux
Abrupt Decay, Palisade Giant
Grove of the Guardian
Sphinx of the Chimes, Tenement Crasher
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
Pithing Needle
Pack Rat
I would have liked more shock lands, but overall I'm very pleased.
I felt a great disturbance in the force, like a thousand decks across several formats suddenly cried out in terror and were suddenly silenced. I fear something terrible has been printed
A lot of these boxes start to end, went from like 2-3shocks per box to 1-2 shocks per box. Do you think this could be different lots, print cycles, or just plain old randomness?
Nivmagus Elemental (Voidwielder) Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Temple Garden
Underworld Connections
Righteous Authority
Grove of the Guardian
Pack Rat
Sphinx of the Chimes Vraska, the Unseen
Collective Blessing
Firemind's Foresight
Guild Feud
Right Column
Deathrite Shaman (Mountain) Armada Wurm
Ash Zealot (Deathrite Shaman)
Cyclonic Rift
Mana Bloom Isperia, Supreme Judge
Deadbridge Goliath Rakdos's Return
Supreme Verdict (Dead Reveler)
Dreadbore
Blood Crypt
Search the City
Overall 3 shocks, 7 mythics (8 if you include foil vraska). Pretty awesome
So, I dunno if final box will be opened today or if I'll wait until tommorow....
Made in the USA
Code: C76P7LC Foil
Mythic Mythic Foil
Left:
Azor's Elocutor's
Trostoni, Selesnya's Voice
Loxodon Smiter (Golgari Decoy)
Grave Betrayal (Search the City)
Lotleth Troll
Martial Law
Volatile Law (Drudge Beetle)
Havoc Festival
Search the City
Counterflux
Mana Bloom
Archon of the Triumvirate
Left
Pack Rat
Carnival Hellsteed
Collective Blessing
Supreme Verdict
Martial Law
Volatile Rig Rakdos, Lord of Riots
Temple Garden
Cryptborn Horror
Mana Bloom
Hallowed Fountain
Precinct Captain
Someone early in this thread said that shocklands were really scarce for them. I asked someone on Sunday how many they've averaged per box after opening many boxes and they said it's as low as 2 and as high as 8 for an average around 5. To whomever opened your box with hardly any shocks, looks like you were on the poor end of statistics there.
Here's my recently opened box from a case. I am presuming it was made in the USA, English cards sent to me in the US. I own half the case, so half of it will be mapped. I still have the cartons, so if anyone wants additional serial numbers off the box, let me know.
Code: QA4Z7LA Foil
Mythic Mythic Foil Shockland
Warning, the top three packs (first one in each column) of this box *may* have gotten mixed up, but I'm fairly certain they are correct. The rest are all definitely correct.
Left column, top down:
Grove of the Guardian
Cyclonic Rift
Lotleth Troll
Havoc Festival, Rakdos Guildgate
Angel of Serenity
Rest in Peace
Jarad's Orders Steam Vents Blood Crypt
Search the City
Slaughter Games
Abrupt Decay
Right column, top down:
Armada Wurm, Hallowed Fountain
Carnival Hellsteed, Isperia's Skywatch
Deadbridge Goliath
Grave Betrayal
Mizzium Mortars
Martial Law
Sphinx of the Chimes Temple Garden
Precinct Captain Overgrown Tomb, Eyes in the Sky
Guild Feud
Mercurial Chemister
Box I.D.: HKCV7LA; Box #4(Top center of case) Left column:
Nivmagus Elemental
Pack Rat / Sunspire Griffin
Volatile Rig
Jarad's Orders / Assassin token
Ash Zealot
Cyclonic Rift
Havoc Festival
Lotleth Troll
Angel of Serenity
Armada Wurm / Downsize
Rest in Peace Steam Vents / Temple Garden
Center column:
Guild Feud Steam Vents(2) / Dryad Militant
Vraska the Unseen
Hypersonic Dragon
Archon of the Triumvirate / Launch Party
Conjured Currency
Death's Presence
Wayfaring Temple Hallowed Fountain
Righteous Authority
Counterflux
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
Right column:
Collective Blessing
Underworld Connections / Havoc Festival
Wild Beastmaster
Firemind's Foresight
Epic Experiment
Carnival Hellsteed
Grave Betrayal / Vassal Soul
Deadbridge Goliath
Mizzium Mortars / Thoughtflare
Grove of the Guardian
Martial Law Temple Garden
Box I.D.: 4L8A7LA; Box #2(Top right of case) Left column:
Carnival Hellsteed
Deathrite Shaman
Utvara Hellkite / Plains 250
Righteous Authority
Sphinx of the Chimes
Wayfaring Temple
Search the City Blood Crypt
Growing Ranks
Cyclonic Rift / Batterhorn
Mercurial Chemister / Golgari Keyrune
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
Center column:
Cryptborn Horror
Underworld Connections
Precinct Captain / Seek the Horizon Overgrown Tomb
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord / Common Bond
Detention Sphere
Supreme Verdict
Collective Blessing / Ash Zealot
Azor's Elocutors
Martial Law
Volatile Rig
Utvara Hellkite(2)
Right column:
Grove of the Guardian
Counterflux
Pithing Needle / Wild Beastmaster
Guild Feud
Jace, Architect of Thought / Slitherhead
Conjured Currency
Lotleth Troll
Wild Beastmaster
Pack Rat / Grim Roustabout
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
Abrupt Decay
Hypersonic Dragon
Box I.D.: 2UMH7LB; Box #5(Bottom left of case) Left column:
Pack Rat
Rakdos, Lord of Riots / Korozda Monitor Blood Crypt
Rest in Peace
Lotleth Troll Steam Vents
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius
Pithing Needle
Deathrite Shaman / Stealer of Secrets
Desecration Demon / Skymark Roc
Chaos Imps
Center column:
Detention Sphere
Supreme Verdict
Dreadbore
Death's Presence
Chromatic Lantern / Island 257
Wayfaring Temple
Search the City
Firemind's Foresight
Counterflux
Detention Sphere(2)
Worldspine Wurm
Growing Ranks
Box I.D.: AC6P7LC; Box #3(Bottom center of case) Left column:
Pithing Needle Blood Crypt
Search the City
Chromatic Lantern / Savage Surge
Ash Zealot
Azor's Elocutors / Lobber Crew Hallowed Fountain
Carnival Hellsteed
Jace, Architect of Thought
Conjured Currency
Grave Betrayal
Archon of the Triumvirate
Center column:
Sphinx of the Chimes
Corpsejack Menace / Mountain 267
Desecration Demon
Nivmagus Elemental
Mercurial Chemister
Mana Bloom
Havoc Festival / Mercurial Chemister
Utvara Hellkite
Growing Ranks
Wild Beastmaster / Mountain 268
Deathrite Shaman / Korozda Guildmage
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Box I.D.: BUEZ7LA; Box #1(Bottom right of case) Left column:
Grave Betrayal
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius
Chromatic Lantern
Nivmagus Elemental
Archon of the Triumvirate
Grove of the Guardian / Crosstown Courier
Pack Rat
Worldspine Wurm
Conjured Currency
Azor's Elocutors / Assassin token
Martial Law
Isperia, Supreme Judge
Center column:
Mana Bloom
Deadbridge Goliath / Swamp 262
Rest in Peace
Dreadbore
Epic Experiment
Detention Sphere / Codex Shredder
Collective Blessing Hallowed Fountain
Slaughter Games
Death's Presence / Drainpipe Vermin
Growing Ranks
Deadbridge Goliath(2)
Right column:
Precinct Captain / Sluiceway Scorpion
Havoc Festival
Palisade Giant
Desecration Demon
Loxodon Smiter
Firemind's Foresight / Nivmagus Elemental
Chaos Imps
Cryptborn Horror
Jarad's Order
Jace, Architect of Thought
Mizzium Mortars
Counterflux / Plains 251
As with most box mapping threads, I've seen a couple of posts already asking "Does this stuff actually work?" or "How does this work?" or "How does this info help?"...things like that. The response is always the same and is basically "Rrraaaaahhh!!! Of course it works!!! If you don't think think it works you're clearly a moron!!! Rrraaaaahhh!!!"
So on behalf of all of us "morons", could someone please, just once, break it down and explain how this works? If I go buy a box and open the first couple of packs, how do I use this info to ensure that I only need to open a few more packs to get the cards I'm after?
As with most box mapping threads, I've seen a couple of posts already asking "Does this stuff actually work?" or "How does this work?" or "How does this info help?"...things like that. The response is always the same and is basically "Rrraaaaahhh!!! Of course it works!!! If you don't think think it works you're clearly a moron!!! Rrraaaaahhh!!!"
So on behalf of all of us "morons", could someone please, just once, break it down and explain how this works? If I go buy a box and open the first couple of packs, how do I use this info to ensure that I only need to open a few more packs to get the cards I'm after?
Cards start off as sheets, with each card in a sheet appearing in a pre-determined order, some duplicated. They are then cut and distributed into boosters by machines following certain algorithms. The idea is to figure out how the sheets are cut and distributed into booster packs by taking box data from a large sample size and looking for patterns - sort of like reverse engineering. There should be Youtube videos floating around showing and explaining the theory in a much better way than I can.
Older sets were very easy to map, but from what I understand, it's no longer an exact science due to randomization techniques employed by Wizards. Personally, I like using it to get an idea of what rares & mythics tend to be associated with one another in a box and have benefited from applying this knowledge on more than one occasion. You're still gambling, but the odds are decent.
On a related note, I'm surprised at how little box data we have so far. With the popularity of RTR, I was expecting this thread to be exploding with peoples' results. I may buy another if they go on sale sometime down the road, but for now, I'm going to draft 'til I drop.
i'm opening a case over the weekend. i won't be mapping precisely (honestly i won't be interested in writing stuff down as i pull packs) but what i WILL do is keep each box seperate.
if you guys are interested in simply which rares came from which box (rather than their specific order within the box) then i'll spend a few minutes writing them all down.
if this won't help at all, i naturally won't bother =P.
wish me luck!
Mapping needs to be precise in order for the data to be useful, so there's no sense in tallying the rares in a random order - but good luck with your pulls, anyway!
If this is true, then it might be possible to at least partially map these boxes. When I went to prerelease, Vraska was never pulled in the same box (pod) as someone who got a Jace.
So, to follow the norm for easier mapping...
English-Language Booster Vox (Made in U.S.A.)
Left (From Top Pack to Bottom Pack)
Rakdos's Return
Vraska the Unseen
Firemind's Foresight (Azorius Justicar)
Lotleth Troll
Ash Zealot
Deadbridge Goliath
Death's Presence (Hallowed Fountain)
Wayfaring Temple (Plains)
Overgrown Tomn
Righteous Authority
Corpsejack Menace
Detention Sphere
Middle (From Top Pack to Bottom Pack)
Collective Blessing (Crosstown Courier)
Cyclonic Rift
Mizzium Mortars
Worldspine Wurm
Abrupt Decay
Conjured Currency
Cryptborn Horror
Pithing Needle
Slaughter Games (Hussar Patrol)
Deathrite Shaman (Skymark Roc)
Temple Garden
Hallowed Fountain
Right (From Top Pack to Bottom Pack)
Rest in Peace
Pack Rat
Dreadbore
Necropolis Regent (Drainpipe Vermin)
Underworld Connections
Counterflux
Mana Bloom
Steam Vents
Sphinx's Revelation
Jarad's Orders
Wild Beastmaster
Grove of the Guardian (Traitorous Instinct)
Dreadbore
Pithing Needle
Manabloom
Deathrite Shaman (Thrill-Kill Assassin)
Isperia, Supreme Judge
Corpsejack Menace
Hallowed Fountain (Forest)
Guild Feud
Righteous Authority
Necropolis Regent
Pack Rat
Detention Sphere (Goblin Electromancer)
Carnival Hellsteed
Chaos Imps (Chorus of Might)
Growing Ranks
Deadbridge Goliath
Ash Zealot
Wild Beastmaster
Grave Betrayal
Temple Garden
Search the City
Palisade Giant
Precinct Captain
Rest in Peace
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius
Jace, Architect of Thought
Collective Blessing
Azor's Elocutors
Cryptborn Horror (Concordia Pegasus)
Grove of the Guardian
Sphinx of the Chimes
Wayfaring Temple
Blood Crypt (Runewing)
Hypersonic Dragon (Plains)
Supreme Verdict
Volatile Rig
<33 Not too shabby
EDHCommander Decks (14/27):X Karn, Silver Golem
W Kemba, Kha Regent
U Azami, Lady of Secrets
B Shirei, Shizo's Caretaker
R Akroma, Angel of Fury
G Sasaya, Orochi Ascendant
WU
UB
BR Wort, Boggart Auntie
RG Radha, Heir to Keld
GW
WB
UR
BG
RW
GU
WUB
UBR Thraximundar
BRG
RGW Uril, the Miststalker
GWU Rafiq of the Many
WBR Kaalia of the Vast
URG Riku of the Two Reflections
BGW Ghave, Guru of Spores
RWU
GUB
WUBRG Progenitus
Bold = Mythic
Parenthesis = Token and/or Foil
Left
Azor's Elocutors
Martial Law
Steam Vents (Token)
Loxodon Smiter (Street Sweeper)
Overgrown Tomb (Token)
Wild Beastmaster
Slaughter Games
Sphinx of Chimes
Temple Gargen (Token)
Detention Sphere
Deathrite Shaman (Skull Rend)
Sphinx's Revelation (Swamp/ Token)
Middle
Mercurial Chemister
Grove of the Guardian (Wayfaring Temple)
Jace, Architect of Thought
Isperia, Supreme Judge (Token)
Guild Fiend (Token)
Blood Crypt (Token)
Pithing Needle (Token)
Underworld Connections (Mind Rot/Token)
Chromatic Lantern
Wayfaring Temple
Nivmagus Elemental (Token)
Necropolis Regent (Wild Beastmaster/ Token)
Right
Corpsejack Menace (Traitorous Instinct)
Counterflux (Token)
Chaos Imp (Token)
Deadbridge Goliath (Hussar Patrol/ Token)
Mizzium Mortars
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius (Token)
Carnival Hellsteed
Volatile Rig
Death's Presence
Cyclonic Rift
Righteous Authority (Token)
Mana Bloom (Token/Plains)
EDH-
Shattergang BothersGBR Kaalia the Vast RBW Pillowpants the Blackblade, Troll of the PillowfortBUW Jarad Golgari Lich Lord's Pet CemeteryGB (Retired)
Ghave Guru of SporesGBW (Retired)
Jenara, Asura of WarGWU Norin the WayR Rhys the RedeemedGW Oloro, Ageless AsceticBUW
Ezuri, Renegade LeaderG
Mizzium Mortars
Hypersonic Dragon
Sphinx of the Chimes
Pack Rat
Utvare Hellkite
Precinct Captain
Mana Bloom
Martial Law
Volatile Rig
Epic Experiment
Detention Sphere
Overgrown Tomb
Middle:
Blood Crypt
Guild Fiend
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
Abrupt Decay
Cyclonic Rift
Lothel Troll
Conjured Currency (F)
Jarad's Orders
Search the City
Chromatic Lantern
Ash Zealot
Pithing Needle
Cryptborn Horror
Right:
Niv-Mizzet
Death's Presence
Hallowed Fountain
Rest in Peace
Supreme Verdict
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
Worldspine Wurm
Wild Beastmaster (F)
Desecration Demon
Firemind Foresight
Counterflux
Havoc Festival
Dreadbore
Not uber happy after seeing some of these other boxes, but ok.
I got six Mythics: Utvare Hellkite, Niv Mizz, Trostani, Worldspine Worm, Epic Experiment, Radkos
Would have mapped, but the box got smooshed in shipping and shifted the contents a bit.
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Made in the USA
Code: 4NQI7LB
Foil
Mythic
Mythic Foil
Left:
Pack Rat
Firemind's Foresight
Loxodon Smiter
Azor's Elocutors (Forest)
Epic Experiment
Carnival Hellsteed
Collective Blessing (Axebane Stag)
Steam Vents
Cryptborn Horror
Counterflux
Archon of the Triumvirate
Temple Garden
Middle:
Supreme Verdict (Isperia's Skywatch)
Martial Law
Jarad's Orders
Chaos Imps
Hypersonic Dragon
Angel of Serenity (Eyes in the Sky)
Deathrite Shaman
Dreadbore
Armada Wurm (Teleportal)
Mercurial Chemister
Sphinx of the Chimes
Deadbridge Goliath
Right:
Steam Vents
Slaughter Games
Vraska the Unseen
Grave Betrayal (Rakdos Guildgate)
Guild Fued
Chromatic Lantern (Volatile Rig)
Conjured Currency
Underworld Connections
Ash Zealot
Overgrown Tomb
Mizzium Mortars
Rakdos, Lord of Riots (Sewer Shambler)
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyMythic
Foil
Left:
Deathrite Shaman
Utvara Hellkite
Carnival Hellsteed, Annihilating Fire
Cryptborn Horror
Wayfaring Temple
Blood Crypt
Rest in Peace, Voidwielder
Search the City
Palisade Giant
Mercurial Chemister
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice, Tavern Swindler
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius
Center:
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Deadbridge Goliath
Grave Betrayal
Hypersonic Dragon
Detention Sphere, Plains #252
Underworld Connections
Guild Feud
Overgrown Tomb
Mizzium Mortars
Dreadbore
Utvara Hellkite
Precinct Captain
Right:
Jace, Architect of Thought
Azor's Elocutors
Havoc Festival
Mana Bloom
Ash Zealot, Phantom General
Counterflux
Abrupt Decay, Palisade Giant
Grove of the Guardian
Sphinx of the Chimes, Tenement Crasher
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
Pithing Needle
Pack Rat
I would have liked more shock lands, but overall I'm very pleased.
Detention Sphere
Precint Captain
Nivmagus Elemental
Wild Beastmaster
Havoc Festival
Archon of the Triumvirate
Jace, Architect of Thought
Blood Crypt
Grave Betrayal
Dreadbore
Lotleth Troll
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius
Middle:
Hallowed Fountain
Supreme Verdict
Volatile Rig
Deathrite Shaman
Worldspine Wurm
Jarad's Orders
Cyclonic Rift
Pack Rat
Growing Ranks
Deadbridge Goliath
Palisade Giant
Chromatic Lantern
Right:
Mana Bloom
Underworld Connections
Conjured Currency
Wayfaring Temple
Collective Blessing
Firemind's Foresight
Hypersonic Dragon
Isperia, Supreme Judge
Corpsejack Menace
Search the City
Mizzium Mortars
Righteous Authority
Left
Firemind Foresight
Temple Corridor
Conjured Currency
Guild Feud
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
Wayfaring Temple / Destroy the Evidence
Rakdos' Return
Righteous Authority
Loleth Troll
Blood Crypt
Search the City
Center
Death's Presence
Mizzium's Mortars / Inspiration
Deathrite Shaman / Izzet Charm
Collective Blessing
Growing Ranks
Deadbridge Goliath
Jarad's Orders
Cryptborn
Overgrown Tomb
Vraska, the Unseen / Swamp
Underworld Connections
Azor Elocutors
Right
Detention Sphere
Cyclonic Rift
Corpsejack Menace
Chaos Imps / Ethereal Armor
Counterflux
Pithing Needle / Wild Beastmaster
Ash Zealot
Sphinx of the Chimes
Pack Rat
Steam Vents / Dark Reverent
Wild Beastmaster
Martial Law / Inaction Injustice
Box 2 (Different Case)
Left
Chaos Imps
Havoc Festival
Palisade Giant
Deadbridge Goliath
Loxodon Smite
Azor Elocutors / Island
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
Supreme Verdict / Shrieking Affliction
Detention Sphere
Underworld Connection
Hypersonic Dragon
Rest in Peace
Center
Conjured Currency
Jarad's Orders / Pursuit of Flight
Utvara Hellkite
Righteous Authority
Wild Beastmaster
Dreadbore
Blood Crypt / Chronic Flooding
Loleth Troll
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Mercurial Chemister
Mana Bloom / Hallowed Fountain (woo!)
Slaughter Games
Right
Overgrown Tomb
Abrupt Decay / Slime Molding
Growing Ranks
Archon of the Triumvirate / Spawn of Rix Maadi
Pack Rat
Carnival Hellstead
Steam Vents
Jace, Architect of Thought
Cyclonic Rift
Death's Presence
Chromatic Lantern
Wayfaring Temple / Bellow Lizard
Left Column
Wayfaring Temple
Havoc Festival
Hallowed Fountain (Tenement Crasher)
Precinct Captain
Conjured Currency
Pithing Needle
Grave Betrayal (Vraska, the Unseen)
Wild Beastmaster
Necropolis Regent
Worldspine Wurm
Growing Ranks (Centaur Healer)
Azor's Elocutors (Hellhole Flailer)
Middle Column
Nivmagus Elemental (Voidwielder)
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Temple Garden
Underworld Connections
Righteous Authority
Grove of the Guardian
Pack Rat
Sphinx of the Chimes
Vraska, the Unseen
Collective Blessing
Firemind's Foresight
Guild Feud
Right Column
Deathrite Shaman (Mountain)
Armada Wurm
Ash Zealot (Deathrite Shaman)
Cyclonic Rift
Mana Bloom
Isperia, Supreme Judge
Deadbridge Goliath
Rakdos's Return
Supreme Verdict (Dead Reveler)
Dreadbore
Blood Crypt
Search the City
Overall 3 shocks, 7 mythics (8 if you include foil vraska). Pretty awesome
meat's Trade Corner
Made in the USA
Code: 21CB8LA
Box 1:
Left:
Sphinx of the Chimes
Rakdos’s Return
Trostani, Selesnya’s Voice
Rest in Peace
Underworld Connections (Tower Drake)
Wayfaring Temple (Goblin Rally)
Armada Worm
Search The City
Collective Blessing
Cryptborn Horror
Hallowed Fountain
Temple Garden
Middle:
Vraska the Unseen
Blood Crypt
Mercurial Chemister (Grove of the Guardian)
Hypersonic Dragon
Jarad’s Orders
Chromatic Lantern
Angel of Serenity
Grave Betrayal
Firemind’s Foresight (Azorius Arrester)
Martial Law
Volatile Rig
Desecration Demon
Right:
Steam Vents
Cyclonic Rift
Grove of the Guardian
Guild Feud (Grisly Salvage)
Death’s Presence
Nivmagus Elemental
Azor’s Elocutors (Gatecreeper Vine)
Pack Rat
Lotleth Troll
Epic Experiment
Carnival Hellsteed
Havoc Festival
Box#2.
Left:
Lotleth Troll
Necropolis Regent
Sphinx’s Revelation (Plains)
Cryptborn Horror
Slaughter Games
Underworld Connections
Wayfaring Temple
Collective Blessing
Search the City
Righteous Authority
Hypersonic Dragon (Batterhorn)
Temple Garden
Middle:
Loxoden Smiter
Blood Crypt
Pithing Needle (Rix Maadi Guildmage)
Azor’s Elocutor’s
Angel of Serenity
Abrupt Decay (Common Bond)
Chromatic Lantern
Grave Betrayal (Palisade Giant)
Hallowed Fountain
Guild Feud
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sphinx of the Chimes
Right:
Nivmagus Elemental (Gatecreeper Vine)
Mercurial Chemister
Steam Vents
Mana Bloom
Corpsejack Menace
Death’s Presence
Wild Beastmaster
Deathrite Shaman
Grove of the Guardian (Grim Roustabout)
Carnival Hellsteed (Ultimate Price)
Armada Worm
Supreme Verdict
Box 3:
Left:
Cryptborn Horror
Worldspine Worm (Terrus Worm)
Abrupt Decay
Search the City (Steam Vents)
Pithing Needle
Lotleth Troll
Slaughter Games
Steam Vents
Temple Garden
Palisade Giant (Island)
Azor’s Elocutors
Deathrite Shaman
Middle:
Dreadbore (Izzet Charm)
Necropolis Regent
Blood Crypt
Counterflux
Pack Rat (Doorkeeper)
Sphinx’s Revelation
Deadbridge Goliath
Jarad’s Orders
Wild Beastmaster
Mana Bloom
Conjured Currency
Loxoden Smiter (Deviant Glee)
Right:
Ash Zealot
Firemind’s Foresight
Archon of the Triumvirate
Desecration Demon
Chromatic Lantern
Growing Ranks
Chaos Imps (Keening Apparition)
Overgrown Tomb (Dramatic Rescue)
Righteous Authority
Corpsejack Menace (Carnival Hellsteed)
Detention Sphere
Supreme Verdict (Dark Revenant)
Made in the USA
Code: C76P7LC
Foil
Mythic
Mythic Foil
Left:
Azor's Elocutor's
Trostoni, Selesnya's Voice
Loxodon Smiter (Golgari Decoy)
Grave Betrayal (Search the City)
Lotleth Troll
Martial Law
Volatile Law (Drudge Beetle)
Havoc Festival
Search the City
Counterflux
Mana Bloom
Archon of the Triumvirate
Middle:
Temple Garden
Mizzium Mortars
Pack Rat
Blood Crypt
Underworld Connections (Explosive Impact)
Chromatic Lantern
Detention Sphere
Rakdos' Return [Proper Grammer Wizards]
Dreadbore (Frostburn Weird)
Collective Blessing
Growing Ranks
Jarad's Orders
Right:
Corpsejack Menace
Death's Presence
Firemind's Foresight
Cryptborn Horror
Hallowed Fountain
Steam Vents (Soulsworn Spirit)
Vraska the Unseen
Desecration Demon
Mercurial Chemister (Trained Caracal)
Overgrown Tomb
Chaos Imps
Palisade Giant
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyMade in the USA
Left:
Deadbridge Goliath
Overgrown Tomb
Dreadbore
Death's Prescence (Sphinx's Revelation)
Hallowed Fountain
Precinct Captain
Angel of Serenity
Supreme Verdict
Cyclonic Rift
Corpsejack Menace
Search the City
Rest in Peace
Middle:
Temple Garden
Cryptborn Horror
Carnival Hellsteed
Wayfaring Temple
Wild Beastmaster
Azor's elocutors
Blood Crypt
Grove of the Guardian
Slaughter Games
Sphinx's Revelation
Hypersonic Dragon
Marshal Law
Right
Conjured Currency
Havoc Festival
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius
Righteous authority
Mana bloom
Archon of the triumvirate
Pack Rat (Marshal Law)
Detention Sphere
Necropolis Regent
Mercurial Chemister
Desecration Demon
Chromatic Lantern
Left
Pack Rat
Carnival Hellsteed
Collective Blessing
Supreme Verdict
Martial Law
Volatile Rig
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
Temple Garden
Cryptborn Horror
Mana Bloom
Hallowed Fountain
Precinct Captain
Middle
Epic Experiment
Wild Beastmaster
Lotleth Troll
Desecration Demon
Chaos Imps
Palisade Giant
Grave Betrayal
Loxodon smiter
Hyper sonic Dragon
Abrupt Decay (Foil Rakdos, Lord of Riots)
Jarad’s Orders
Underworld Connections
Right
Nivmagus Elemental
Pithing Needle
Angel of serenity
Armada Wurm
Growing Ranks
Firemind’s Foresight
Havoc Festival
Azor’s Elocutors
Dreadbore
Corpsejack Menace
Ash Zealot
Counterflux
Here's my recently opened box from a case. I am presuming it was made in the USA, English cards sent to me in the US. I own half the case, so half of it will be mapped. I still have the cartons, so if anyone wants additional serial numbers off the box, let me know.
Code: QA4Z7LA
Foil
Mythic
Mythic Foil
Shockland
Warning, the top three packs (first one in each column) of this box *may* have gotten mixed up, but I'm fairly certain they are correct. The rest are all definitely correct.
Left column, top down:
Grove of the Guardian
Cyclonic Rift
Lotleth Troll
Havoc Festival, Rakdos Guildgate
Angel of Serenity
Rest in Peace
Jarad's Orders
Steam Vents
Blood Crypt
Search the City
Slaughter Games
Abrupt Decay
Middle column, top down:
Righteous Authority
Conjured Currency
Wayfaring Temple
Death's Presence
Hallowed Fountain
Counterflux, Axebane Stag
Pithing Needle
Rakdos, Lord of Riots, Rakdos Charm
Corpsejack Menace
Desecration Demon
Chromatic Lantern
Ash Zealot, Mountain
Right column, top down:
Armada Wurm, Hallowed Fountain
Carnival Hellsteed, Isperia's Skywatch
Deadbridge Goliath
Grave Betrayal
Mizzium Mortars
Martial Law
Sphinx of the Chimes
Temple Garden
Precinct Captain
Overgrown Tomb, Eyes in the Sky
Guild Feud
Mercurial Chemister
Foil
Mythic
Mythic Foil
Shockland
Boxes posted according to the (6-4-2-5-3-1) order.
Box I.D.: USRL7LB; Box #6(Top left of case)
Left column:
Blood Crypt
Corpsejack Menace
Cyclonic Rift / Hussar Patrol
Dreadbore
Wayfaring Temple / Armada Wurm
Search the City
Angel of Serenity
Palisade Giant / Teleportal
Wild Beastmaster
Supreme Verdict
Corpsejack Menace(2) / Skull Rend
Desecration Demon
Center column:
Underworld Connections / Mind Rot
Mercurial Chemister
Overgrown Tomb
Carnival Hellsteed
Temple Garden
Nivmagus Elemental
Precinct Captain
Pithing Needle
Sphinx of the Chimes
Lotleth Troll
Sphinx's Revelation
Azor's Elocutors
Right column:
Righteous Authority
Guild Feud / Forest 274
Deathrite Shaman
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius
Ash Zealot / Traitorous Instinct
Steam Vents
Volatile Rig
Archon of the Triumvirate
Detention Sphere / Plains 253
Necropolis Regent
Firemind's Foresight
Death's Presence
Box I.D.: HKCV7LA; Box #4(Top center of case)
Left column:
Nivmagus Elemental
Pack Rat / Sunspire Griffin
Volatile Rig
Jarad's Orders / Assassin token
Ash Zealot
Cyclonic Rift
Havoc Festival
Lotleth Troll
Angel of Serenity
Armada Wurm / Downsize
Rest in Peace
Steam Vents / Temple Garden
Center column:
Guild Feud
Steam Vents(2) / Dryad Militant
Vraska the Unseen
Hypersonic Dragon
Archon of the Triumvirate / Launch Party
Conjured Currency
Death's Presence
Wayfaring Temple
Hallowed Fountain
Righteous Authority
Counterflux
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
Right column:
Collective Blessing
Underworld Connections / Havoc Festival
Wild Beastmaster
Firemind's Foresight
Epic Experiment
Carnival Hellsteed
Grave Betrayal / Vassal Soul
Deadbridge Goliath
Mizzium Mortars / Thoughtflare
Grove of the Guardian
Martial Law
Temple Garden
Box I.D.: 4L8A7LA; Box #2(Top right of case)
Left column:
Carnival Hellsteed
Deathrite Shaman
Utvara Hellkite / Plains 250
Righteous Authority
Sphinx of the Chimes
Wayfaring Temple
Search the City
Blood Crypt
Growing Ranks
Cyclonic Rift / Batterhorn
Mercurial Chemister / Golgari Keyrune
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
Center column:
Cryptborn Horror
Underworld Connections
Precinct Captain / Seek the Horizon
Overgrown Tomb
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord / Common Bond
Detention Sphere
Supreme Verdict
Collective Blessing / Ash Zealot
Azor's Elocutors
Martial Law
Volatile Rig
Utvara Hellkite(2)
Right column:
Grove of the Guardian
Counterflux
Pithing Needle / Wild Beastmaster
Guild Feud
Jace, Architect of Thought / Slitherhead
Conjured Currency
Lotleth Troll
Wild Beastmaster
Pack Rat / Grim Roustabout
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
Abrupt Decay
Hypersonic Dragon
Box I.D.: 2UMH7LB; Box #5(Bottom left of case)
Left column:
Pack Rat
Rakdos, Lord of Riots / Korozda Monitor
Blood Crypt
Rest in Peace
Lotleth Troll
Steam Vents
Trostani, Selesnya's Voice
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius
Pithing Needle
Deathrite Shaman / Stealer of Secrets
Desecration Demon / Skymark Roc
Chaos Imps
Center column:
Detention Sphere
Supreme Verdict
Dreadbore
Death's Presence
Chromatic Lantern / Island 257
Wayfaring Temple
Search the City
Firemind's Foresight
Counterflux
Detention Sphere(2)
Worldspine Wurm
Growing Ranks
Right column:
Righteous Authority
Hypersonic Dragon
Abrupt Decay
Utvara Hellkite
Underworld Connections / Azorius Justiciar
Cyclonic Rift
Mizzium Mortars
Mana Bloom / Catacomb Slug
Slaughter Games
Epic Experiment / Chaos Imps
Collective Blessing
Cryptborn Horror
Box I.D.: AC6P7LC; Box #3(Bottom center of case)
Left column:
Pithing Needle
Blood Crypt
Search the City
Chromatic Lantern / Savage Surge
Ash Zealot
Azor's Elocutors / Lobber Crew
Hallowed Fountain
Carnival Hellsteed
Jace, Architect of Thought
Conjured Currency
Grave Betrayal
Archon of the Triumvirate
Center column:
Sphinx of the Chimes
Corpsejack Menace / Mountain 267
Desecration Demon
Nivmagus Elemental
Mercurial Chemister
Mana Bloom
Havoc Festival / Mercurial Chemister
Utvara Hellkite
Growing Ranks
Wild Beastmaster / Mountain 268
Deathrite Shaman / Korozda Guildmage
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Right column:
Abrupt Decay
Precinct Captain / Psychic Spiral
Overgrown Tomb
Guild Feud
Slaughter Games / Trostani's Judgment
Jarad's Orders
Deadbridge Goliath
Cryptborn Horror
Volatile Rig
Palisade Giant
Chaos Imps
Loxodon Smiter / Courser's Accord
Box I.D.: BUEZ7LA; Box #1(Bottom right of case)
Left column:
Grave Betrayal
Niv-Mizzet, Dracogenius
Chromatic Lantern
Nivmagus Elemental
Archon of the Triumvirate
Grove of the Guardian / Crosstown Courier
Pack Rat
Worldspine Wurm
Conjured Currency
Azor's Elocutors / Assassin token
Martial Law
Isperia, Supreme Judge
Center column:
Mana Bloom
Deadbridge Goliath / Swamp 262
Rest in Peace
Dreadbore
Epic Experiment
Detention Sphere / Codex Shredder
Collective Blessing
Hallowed Fountain
Slaughter Games
Death's Presence / Drainpipe Vermin
Growing Ranks
Deadbridge Goliath(2)
Right column:
Precinct Captain / Sluiceway Scorpion
Havoc Festival
Palisade Giant
Desecration Demon
Loxodon Smiter
Firemind's Foresight / Nivmagus Elemental
Chaos Imps
Cryptborn Horror
Jarad's Order
Jace, Architect of Thought
Mizzium Mortars
Counterflux / Plains 251
Mythics: 29+1 foil: (30)
Shocks: 16+1 foil: (17)
Planeswalkers: 3 Jace, 1 Vraska: (4)
5/6 boxes contained one duplicate rare(4)/mythic(once)
So on behalf of all of us "morons", could someone please, just once, break it down and explain how this works? If I go buy a box and open the first couple of packs, how do I use this info to ensure that I only need to open a few more packs to get the cards I'm after?
Cards start off as sheets, with each card in a sheet appearing in a pre-determined order, some duplicated. They are then cut and distributed into boosters by machines following certain algorithms. The idea is to figure out how the sheets are cut and distributed into booster packs by taking box data from a large sample size and looking for patterns - sort of like reverse engineering. There should be Youtube videos floating around showing and explaining the theory in a much better way than I can.
Older sets were very easy to map, but from what I understand, it's no longer an exact science due to randomization techniques employed by Wizards. Personally, I like using it to get an idea of what rares & mythics tend to be associated with one another in a box and have benefited from applying this knowledge on more than one occasion. You're still gambling, but the odds are decent.
On a related note, I'm surprised at how little box data we have so far. With the popularity of RTR, I was expecting this thread to be exploding with peoples' results. I may buy another if they go on sale sometime down the road, but for now, I'm going to draft 'til I drop.
Mapping needs to be precise in order for the data to be useful, so there's no sense in tallying the rares in a random order - but good luck with your pulls, anyway!
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