Is it just me or does this sound alot like coincidence? I mean you think that someone at WotC/whatever went "Avacyn and Riders of Gavony should be next to each other because ______"? Not to offend anyone but I think your seeing patterns where there are none.
Is it just me or does this sound alot like coincidence? I mean you think that someone at WotC/whatever went "Avacyn and Riders of Gavony should be next to each other because ______"? Not to offend anyone but I think your seeing patterns where there are none.
Nope, I don't think that...but the way that cards are printed and sorted into packs suggests that they were together on a sheet of rares.
Hey everyone! Thanks for providing all of these boxes.
Tremulant: The way it used to work [Back before New Phyrexia] after 20-30 boxes, we could cobble together a full map for a large set, with a few small errors. It took more like 60-70 boxes for MBS. However, Wizards has changed the collation process, and it's more difficult now.
I've been very busy with real life stuff and other Magic business for the last few releases, but someone will be working on the data provided. The more boxes we get [with the region information] the faster and more accurate any eventual map will be. So please keep posting boxes.
Alright, so lets map with box 4 of my case
Made in U.S.
Code: H26N7LC
Mythic Foil Mythic Foil
Left
Harvester of Souls
Vexing Devil
Dual Casting
Revenge of the Hunted
Rite of Ruin
Ulvenwald Tracker
Gallows at Willow Hill
Druids' Repository
Dread Slaver (Seraph Sancturary)
Burn at the Stake
Alchemist's Refuge
Griselbrand
Middle
Alchemist's Refuge
Angel of Jubilation
Captain of the Mists (Bladed Bracers)
Hound of Griselbrand (Stonewright)
Lunar Mystic
Soul of the Harvest
Cathars' Crusade
Riders of Gavony
Zealous Conscripts
Killing Wave
Champion of Lambholt (Call to Serve)
Reforge the Soul
Left: (top to bottom)
Rite of Ruin
Herald of War
Angel of glory's rise
Riders of Gavony (Foil common) primal surge exquisite blood (tamiyo token!) descent into madness infinite reflection
burn at the stake
descendants path misthollow griffin somberwald sage (foil common)
middle (top to bottom) malignus captain of the mists
revenge of the hunted sigarda, host of herons wolfir silverheart
gallows at willow hill
desolate lighthouse
champion of lambholt (foil common)
divine deflection
deadeye navigator
angel of jubilation
reforge the soul
right (top to bottom)
wild defiance
stolen goods
tyrant of discord (foil common)
archwing dragon (foil devastation tide)
demonlord of ashmouth
silverblade paladin
devastation tide (foil common)
lunar mystic (foil appetite for brains)
terminus
soul of the harvest
cavern of souls
captain of the mists
Is it just me or does this sound alot like coincidence? I mean you think that someone at WotC/whatever went "Avacyn and Riders of Gavony should be next to each other because ______"? Not to offend anyone but I think your seeing patterns where there are none.
I think we're seeing patterns where there are patterns. This isn't news. You're just late to the party. See here: http://youtu.be/EUg0puDXsAM
Not really no. Your intention is to be able to predict which rares are in which boxes or something like that? Or what part of the box to pick from? I don't get it.
Anyhow, I wish you good luck with it.
That is pretty much it.... It kinda games the system in a sense. I've done it, but only to places where they are very rude to the customers and take advantage of people....
Anyway, onto box #5.... still need a cavern of souls.
Made in U.S.
Code: VND97LB
Mythic Foil Mythic Foil
Left
Hound of Griselbrand
Demonic Rising
Wolfir Silverheart (Amass the Components)
Archwing Dragon
Dark Imposter
Wild Defiance
Ulvenwald Tracker
Somberwald Sage
Moonsilver Spear
Descendants' Path
Alchemist's Refuge (Mountain)
Desolate Lighthouse (Otherworld Atlas)
Middle
Descent into Madness
Soul of the Harvest
Revenge of the Hunted (Blood Artist)
Restoration Angel
Moonsilver Spear (Midnight Duelist)
Herald of War
Reforge the Soul
Cavern of Souls (Stolen Goods)
Treacherous Pit-Demon
Lunar Mystic
Taimyo, The Moon Sage
Captain of the Mists
Right
Harvester of Souls
Gloom Surgeon
Slayers' Stronghold
Avarcyn, Angel of Hope
Gallows at Willow Hill
Stolen Goods
Demonlord of Ashmouth
Vexing Devil
Terminus (Timberland Guide)
Exquisite Blood (Builder's Blessing)
Infinite Reflection
Silverblade Paladin
I'd like to hazard a guess that Temporal Mastery and Cavern are on the same sheet/ w/e. At the pre release I got both and in my box I got both. Unfortunately it would be impossible to retrieve the complete data on my box.
It did have Temporal, Griselbrand, Griffin, Primal Surge, Malignus, and Entreat the Angels as mythics though.
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Box 6.... the finale...... hopefully I see another cavern.
Made in U.S.
Code: 7KHQ7LB
Mythic Foil Mythic Foil
Left:
Dark Imposter
Hound of Griselbrand
Herald of War
Revenge of the Hunted (Cloudshift)
Cathars' Crusade
Arcane Melee
Demonlord of Ashmouth (Nephalia Smuggler)
Demonic Rising
Moonsilver Spear
Reforge the Soul
Griselbrand
Slayer's Stronghold (Flowering Lumberknot)
Middle:
Archwing Dragon
Deadeye Navigator
Harvester of Souls
Taimyo, the Moon Sage
Ulvenwald Tracker
Druids' Repository
Cavern of Souls (Wild Defiance)
Moonsilver Spear (Barrow Ghoul)
Infinite Reflection
Treacherous Pit-Dweller
Bonfire of the Damned
Stolen Goods
Welcome aboard! Avacyn Restored is the first set in a while that looks solvable. Psionystic was the guy here who solved MBS and (I think) M12, since I've been mostly too busy to do anything more than watch and give encouragement. In theory any set can be solved.
Hello, I did not get to do this for Dark I think but I hope this helps, box is from Ontario Canada
Mythic - Rare - (Foil)
Left
Tyrant of Discord
Divine Deflection
Arcane Melee
Soul of the Harvest
Dread Slaver (Voice of the Provinces) Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded
Champion of Lambholt Gisela, Blade of Goldnight(Griselbrand)
Reforge the Soul
Devastation Tide(Haunted Guardian)
Burn at the Stake
Descendants' Path
Center
Archwing Dragon(Riders of Gavony)
Killing Wave
Otherworld Atlas
Captain of the Mists
Revenge of the Hunted Temporal Mastery
Angel of Glory's Rise(Moorland Inquisitor)
Cathars' Crusade
Riders of Gavony
Gallows at Willow Hill Malignus Sigarda, Host of Herons
Right
Descendants Path
Dual Casting
Alchemist Refuge(Dreadwaters)
Dark Imposter(Holy Justiciar) Avacyn, Angel of Hope
Infinite Reflection
Demonic Rising(Evernight Shade)
Rite of Ruin
Desolate Lighthouse
Zealous Conscripts
Killing Wave(Banners Raised)
Somberwald Sage
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Right
Cavern of Souls
Arcane Melee
Infinite Reflection
Demonlord of Ashmouth
Revenge of the Hunted
Griselbrand
Archwing Dragon
Wild Defiance
Harvester of Souls
Conjurer's Closet
Burn at the Stake
Soul of the Harvest
slayer's stronghold (foil Angelic Armanents) Cavern of souls (foil Amass the Components)
Arcane Meelee
Dread slaver
Descendants' Path
Rite of Ruins
Dual Casting (foil Timberland Guide)
Hound of Griselbrand
Dark Imposter
Burn at the stake
Exquisite Blood (foil Riders of Gavony)
Druids' Repository
Middle:
Reforge the soul
Ulvenwald Tracker
Lone Revenant
Demonic Rising (foil Midnight Duelist)
stolen goods
Wild Defiance (foil Cavern of souls)
somberwald sage (foil Mass Appeal) Vexing Devil
Angel of Glory's Rise Tamiyo, the Moon sage
Ulvenwald Tracker
Desolate Lighthouse (foil Mountain)
Right:
Wolfir silverheart
Angel of Jubilation (foil Dark Imposter) Avacyn, Angel of Hope Descent into Madness
Moonsilver spear
Archwing Dragon
Alchemist's Refuge
Devastation tide
Conjurer's Closet
Lunar Mystic
Terminus
Otherworld Atlas
Overall, I think it was decent box. I'm really fortunate to have gotten 2 Cavern of souls (1 of which is foil). But AVR just reminded me how my DKA box only came with 3 mythics (one of which was a DFC)... blah. And just like the DKA box, the AVR box featured all the mythics on the right side...
Edit: I noticed Basaka and I had the same mythics. It's funny too, they are in the exact same order, but one column over to the left.
I just opened a Russian Language box (T2039268, Made in Belgium obviously)
left column
druids repository
reforge the soul (foil rite of ruin)
zealous conscripts
ENTREAT THE ANGELS
Wolfir Silverheart
Angel of jubilation
deadeye navigator
soul of the harvest
revenge of the hunted
champion of lambholt
gloomseeker
slayers stronghold
middle
vexing devil
archwing dragon
exquisite blood
cathars crusade
conjurors closet
lone revenant
DESCENT INTO MADNESS
lunar mystic
restoration angel
gallows at willow hill
demonic rising
GISELA
right
descendants' path
vexing devil
conjurors closet
dread slaver (foil alchemist's refuge)
lunar mystic
stolen goods
CRATERHOOF BEHEMOTH
somberwald sage
cavern of souls
dual casting
tyrant of discord
TEMPORAL MASTERY
No, much more common is to buy a box, pick the packs, and then sell the remaining garbage packs on eBay to unsuspecting people.
And you're right, Tachi, it isn't very nice.
First time quoting...
But it is a good way to gain some money, is it stable?
Also, I can't visit YouTube so can anyone of you tell me how does this pattern work?
First time quoting...
But it is a good way to gain some money, is it stable?
Also, I can't visit YouTube so can anyone of you tell me how does this pattern work?
It is fairly easy to see which row is the one (or two) which are taken out of order, to get a better idea of the actual pattern. By looking at the wrappers, you can tell which is out of order. In my box, it's at least #4, and the others go in order besides that so as they would have been filled, with no reshuffling, my box would be ordered row 1, row 2, row 3, row 5, row 6, (haven't looked further yet). But it may be more helpful to look and see which row or rows are out of order, and figure out where they belong to determine the rare runs.
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Nope, I don't think that...but the way that cards are printed and sorted into packs suggests that they were together on a sheet of rares.
Check out my trades! Looking for foil white cards currently!
Left:
1) Riders of Gavony (Yew Spirit Foil)
2) Lunar Mystic
3) Ulvenwald Tracker
4) Dual Casting
5) Burn at the Stake (Tamiyo Emblem)
6) Stolen Goods
7) Terminus (Renegade Demon Foil)
8) Vexing Devil
9) Exquisite Blood
10) Dread Slaver
11) Infinite Reflection
12) Dark Impostor
Middle
13) Arcane Melee
14) Demonic Rising
15) Angel of Jubilation (Heirs of Stromkirk Foil)
16) Harvester of Souls (Human Frailty Foil)
17) Temporal Mastery
18) Alchemist's Refuge
19) Otherworld Atlas
20) Wild Defiance
21) Soul of the Harvest
22) Gloom Surgeon
23) Rite of Ruin (Swamp Foil)
24) Malignus
Right
25) Reforge the Soul
26) Spirit Away
27) Conjurer's Closet
28) Lone Revenant
29) Entreat the Angels
30) Moonsilver Spear (Havengul Skaab Foil)
31) Restoration Angel (Entreat the Angels Foil)
32) Archwing Dragon
33) Griselbrand
34) Captain of the Mists
35) Primal Surge (Latch Seeker Foil)
36) Angel of Glory's Rise
Overall, I ended up pretty happy with my box. The foil Entreat the Angels saved the day. It was a...(wait for it)... MIRACLE!
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Tremulant: The way it used to work [Back before New Phyrexia] after 20-30 boxes, we could cobble together a full map for a large set, with a few small errors. It took more like 60-70 boxes for MBS. However, Wizards has changed the collation process, and it's more difficult now.
I've been very busy with real life stuff and other Magic business for the last few releases, but someone will be working on the data provided. The more boxes we get [with the region information] the faster and more accurate any eventual map will be. So please keep posting boxes.
Made in U.S.
Code: H26N7LC
Mythic
Foil
Mythic Foil
Left
Harvester of Souls
Vexing Devil
Dual Casting
Revenge of the Hunted
Rite of Ruin
Ulvenwald Tracker
Gallows at Willow Hill
Druids' Repository
Dread Slaver (Seraph Sancturary)
Burn at the Stake
Alchemist's Refuge
Griselbrand
Middle
Alchemist's Refuge
Angel of Jubilation
Captain of the Mists (Bladed Bracers)
Hound of Griselbrand (Stonewright)
Lunar Mystic
Soul of the Harvest
Cathars' Crusade
Riders of Gavony
Zealous Conscripts
Killing Wave
Champion of Lambholt (Call to Serve)
Reforge the Soul
Right
Terminus
Wild Defiance
Exquisite Blood
Desolate Lighthouse
Archwing Dragon
Otherworld Atlas (Battle Hymn)
Stolen Goods
Entreat the Angels
Temporal Mastery (Lone Revenant)
Infinite Reflection
Angel of Glory's Rise (Marrow Bats)
Descendants' Path
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyRite of Ruin
Herald of War
Angel of glory's rise
Riders of Gavony (Foil common)
primal surge
exquisite blood (tamiyo token!)
descent into madness
infinite reflection
burn at the stake
descendants path
misthollow griffin
somberwald sage (foil common)
middle (top to bottom)
malignus
captain of the mists
revenge of the hunted
sigarda, host of herons
wolfir silverheart
gallows at willow hill
desolate lighthouse
champion of lambholt (foil common)
divine deflection
deadeye navigator
angel of jubilation
reforge the soul
right (top to bottom)
wild defiance
stolen goods
tyrant of discord (foil common)
archwing dragon (foil devastation tide)
demonlord of ashmouth
silverblade paladin
devastation tide (foil common)
lunar mystic (foil appetite for brains)
terminus
soul of the harvest
cavern of souls
captain of the mists
Check out my trades! Looking for foil white cards currently!
I think we're seeing patterns where there are patterns. This isn't news. You're just late to the party. See here: http://youtu.be/EUg0puDXsAM
That is pretty much it.... It kinda games the system in a sense. I've done it, but only to places where they are very rude to the customers and take advantage of people....
Anyway, onto box #5.... still need a cavern of souls.
Made in U.S.
Code: VND97LB
Mythic
Foil
Mythic Foil
Left
Hound of Griselbrand
Demonic Rising
Wolfir Silverheart (Amass the Components)
Archwing Dragon
Dark Imposter
Wild Defiance
Ulvenwald Tracker
Somberwald Sage
Moonsilver Spear
Descendants' Path
Alchemist's Refuge (Mountain)
Desolate Lighthouse (Otherworld Atlas)
Middle
Descent into Madness
Soul of the Harvest
Revenge of the Hunted (Blood Artist)
Restoration Angel
Moonsilver Spear (Midnight Duelist)
Herald of War
Reforge the Soul
Cavern of Souls (Stolen Goods)
Treacherous Pit-Demon
Lunar Mystic
Taimyo, The Moon Sage
Captain of the Mists
Right
Harvester of Souls
Gloom Surgeon
Slayers' Stronghold
Avarcyn, Angel of Hope
Gallows at Willow Hill
Stolen Goods
Demonlord of Ashmouth
Vexing Devil
Terminus (Timberland Guide)
Exquisite Blood (Builder's Blessing)
Infinite Reflection
Silverblade Paladin
Hey, got a cavern.... so that makes me happy.
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyIt did have Temporal, Griselbrand, Griffin, Primal Surge, Malignus, and Entreat the Angels as mythics though.
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Legacy Decks
Dragon Storm
EDH
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:symw::symb::symg:Karador, Ghost Chieftain:symw::symb::symg:
Made in U.S.
Code: 7KHQ7LB
Mythic
Foil
Mythic Foil
Left:
Dark Imposter
Hound of Griselbrand
Herald of War
Revenge of the Hunted (Cloudshift)
Cathars' Crusade
Arcane Melee
Demonlord of Ashmouth (Nephalia Smuggler)
Demonic Rising
Moonsilver Spear
Reforge the Soul
Griselbrand
Slayer's Stronghold (Flowering Lumberknot)
Middle:
Archwing Dragon
Deadeye Navigator
Harvester of Souls
Taimyo, the Moon Sage
Ulvenwald Tracker
Druids' Repository
Cavern of Souls (Wild Defiance)
Moonsilver Spear (Barrow Ghoul)
Infinite Reflection
Treacherous Pit-Dweller
Bonfire of the Damned
Stolen Goods
Right:
Conjurer's Closet (Plains)
Wolfir Silverheart
Gloom Surgeon (Yew Spirit)
Lunar Mystic
Desolate Lighthouse
Somberwald Sage
Silverblade Paladin
Restoration Angel
Gallows at Willow Hill
Bruna, Light of Alabaster (Natural End)
Spirit Away
Descendants' Path
540 Peasant cube- Gold EditionSomething SpicyWelcome aboard! Avacyn Restored is the first set in a while that looks solvable. Psionystic was the guy here who solved MBS and (I think) M12, since I've been mostly too busy to do anything more than watch and give encouragement. In theory any set can be solved.
Mythic - Rare - (Foil)
Left
Tyrant of Discord
Divine Deflection
Arcane Melee
Soul of the Harvest
Dread Slaver (Voice of the Provinces)
Tibalt, the Fiend-Blooded
Champion of Lambholt
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight(Griselbrand)
Reforge the Soul
Devastation Tide(Haunted Guardian)
Burn at the Stake
Descendants' Path
Center
Archwing Dragon(Riders of Gavony)
Killing Wave
Otherworld Atlas
Captain of the Mists
Revenge of the Hunted
Temporal Mastery
Angel of Glory's Rise(Moorland Inquisitor)
Cathars' Crusade
Riders of Gavony
Gallows at Willow Hill
Malignus
Sigarda, Host of Herons
Right
Descendants Path
Dual Casting
Alchemist Refuge(Dreadwaters)
Dark Imposter(Holy Justiciar)
Avacyn, Angel of Hope
Infinite Reflection
Demonic Rising(Evernight Shade)
Rite of Ruin
Desolate Lighthouse
Zealous Conscripts
Killing Wave(Banners Raised)
Somberwald Sage
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Left
Bonfire of the damned
Treacherous Pit Dweller
Gloom Surgeon
Bruna Light of Alabaster
Angel of Jubilation
Riders of Gavony
Lunar Mystic
Vexing Devil
Exquisite Blood
Desolate Lighthouse
Restoration Angel
Temporal Mastery
Middle
Reforge the Soul
Demonic Rising
Moonsilver Spear
Stolen Goods
Spirit Away
Slayers Stronghold
Druids Repository
Hound of Griselbrand
Terminus
Dual Casting
Otherworld Atlas
Dread Slaver
Right
Cavern of Souls
Arcane Melee
Infinite Reflection
Demonlord of Ashmouth
Revenge of the Hunted
Griselbrand
Archwing Dragon
Wild Defiance
Harvester of Souls
Conjurer's Closet
Burn at the Stake
Soul of the Harvest
Middle:
Right:
Edit: I noticed Basaka and I had the same mythics. It's funny too, they are in the exact same order, but one column over to the left.
left column
druids repository
reforge the soul (foil rite of ruin)
zealous conscripts
ENTREAT THE ANGELS
Wolfir Silverheart
Angel of jubilation
deadeye navigator
soul of the harvest
revenge of the hunted
champion of lambholt
gloomseeker
slayers stronghold
middle
vexing devil
archwing dragon
exquisite blood
cathars crusade
conjurors closet
lone revenant
DESCENT INTO MADNESS
lunar mystic
restoration angel
gallows at willow hill
demonic rising
GISELA
right
descendants' path
vexing devil
conjurors closet
dread slaver (foil alchemist's refuge)
lunar mystic
stolen goods
CRATERHOOF BEHEMOTH
somberwald sage
cavern of souls
dual casting
tyrant of discord
TEMPORAL MASTERY
You buy a box, pick the packs that contain the cards you need and then draft the rest.
No, much more common is to buy a box, pick the packs, and then sell the remaining garbage packs on eBay to unsuspecting people.
And you're right, Tachi, it isn't very nice.
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First time quoting...
But it is a good way to gain some money, is it stable?
Also, I can't visit YouTube so can anyone of you tell me how does this pattern work?
Go to Ross Edwards sight (http://rossedwardsbooks.blogspot.com/) and get the book. It explains how the maps work and contains maps for other sets.
Thanks!
But both YouTube AND Blogspot is banned here in China... Really sucks...
How about Amazon.com I believe the book is for sale there. The title is The Card Wizards Black Book. Good Luck.