I think people are really underestimating exactly how powerful repeatable two damage is. We have it on a land that costs 6? And he has flying so he can chump spirits all day.
It's not like they haven't done it before. And I'd play her anyday over this jank.
To all the nay-sayers; don't you think Wizards has the full context of this set when making flavorful cards like this? Don't you think they have a greater lens through which they create the game through? Don't you think they go through countless playtests to perfect their creations?
Give them a break - they know what they are doing.
It's not like they haven't done it before. And I'd play her anyday over this jank.
First, that costs 4cmc, while GTP is a 3cmc.
Second, It's a x2 which means Lava Dart won't kill it.
Third, IT has flying and can block lingering soul tokens. Very relevant for this meta.
Fourth, "comprehensibility" isn't a reason to NOT play a card. Best case scenario there are always 3 legal targets barring some form of "hexproof" effect. Worse case is you ovanize a Giest of St. Traft with rancor with humility in play that you can target because of Glaring Spotlight..
This is an expert expansion - WoTC purposefully designs cards like this. New players see a bat, expert players see batman.
To repeat: IT'S REPEATABLE 2 DAMAGE. That's very, very good. Give it deathtouch and you mitigate most of the draw back assuming you have little board. It's a very efficient creature...
Tibalt, just as a heads up, received some really nice support in toil//trouble. Imagine just Sudden Impacting your opponent twice. If no one remembers Howling Mine..
//edit// I know this is a double post but I want these two thoughts separate as they don't relate to each other.
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This card is really interesting. It's at its best when it's the only creature you have out, because then your odds of backfire are only two in whatever. It's still a fundamentally bad card though. If they had made it a 2/2 so it could at least beat, then it'd be better, but bad cards exist for a reason, and at least this one is a flavor home-run. I'll never play him, but I'm glad he exists and I think Magic is a better game for it.
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This card is really interesting. It's at its best when it's the only creature you have out, because then your odds of backfire are only two in whatever. It's still a fundamentally bad card though. If they had made it a 2/2 so it could at least beat, then it'd be better, but bad cards exist for a reason, and at least this one is a flavor home-run. I'll never play him, but I'm glad he exists and I think Magic is a better game for it.
A 2/2 flyer for 3cmc in blue that could randomly shock? That would be really really OP.
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So quick rules question. Say I play Witchbane Orb and enchant goblin with Alpha Authority, and he is the only creature I have in play, does that effectively change his text to opposing player or creature an opposing player controls? In other words when you tap him, do you have to account for hexproof targets in the random probability?
So quick rules question. Say I play Witchbane Orb and enchant goblin with Alpha Authority, and he is the only creature I have in play, does that effectively change his text to opposing player or creature an opposing player controls? In other words when you tap him, do you have to account for hexproof targets in the random probability?
No - Hexproof says you/your creature can't be the target of spells or abilities of your opponents control.
However, with Shroud, yes, you'd be correct.
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I love how upset about this people are getting. No one gets up in arms over boring bad cards. Who cares about tower defense? But when it's an fun bad card, people are pissed.
So quick rules question. Say I play Witchbane Orb and enchant goblin with Alpha Authority, and he is the only creature I have in play, does that effectively change his text to opposing player or creature an opposing player controls? In other words when you tap him, do you have to account for hexproof targets in the random probability?
The flavor and fun of this card is amazing, I love it.
And it's not that hard in casual to combo him with something to mitigate the randomness. True Believer/Runed Halo for instance. The combo with Gisela, Blade of Goldnight is interesting too, not that she needs the help.
Question: If I equip Illusionist's Bracers to him, do the Bracers' "You may choose new targets for the copy" replace the random selection of the original activation? I'm thinking no, but it would be good to have a clarification on that.
I seriously can't wait to see a match where GTP is the only creature on the field and both players are at 2 life. If I controlled him, I'd go balls to the wall and tap that bad boy!
If you seriously don't like the guy, don't draft him and let inexperienced/fun players grab him in a draft, but I'm sure this little fella will pull out some surprises in the end.
Question: If I equip Illusionist's Bracers to him, do the Bracers' "You may choose new targets for the copy" replace the random selection of the original activation? I'm thinking no, but it would be good to have a clarification on that.
The Gatecrash FAQ for Illusionist's Bracers states:
"The copy will have the same targets as the ability it's copying unless you choose new ones. You may change any number of the targets, including all of them or none of them."
This leads me to believe that the copy does indeed bypass the random targetting.
Can't say there's any way to use this that's good or gainful, at least without massive inconvenience to yourself. It's not as though there's a Krark's Thumb or Goblin Bookie to break this.
If you play more then one opponent this card ought to turn out to favour you statistically.
I think it has some (very limited) potential synergies with other cards in the block, mostly in white. Reckoner, pallisade giant, holy mantle, guildscorn ward.
If you play more then one opponent this card ought to turn out to favour you statistically.
Statistically a game of Russian roulette will be pretty good for you if you have one bullet in the revolver but do you really want to play that game at all? When the trigger is pulled, your being alive and well is a yes/no thing after all.
I think it has some (very limited) potential synergies with other cards in the block, mostly in white. Reckoner, pallisade giant, holy mantle, guildscorn ward.
Yeah but it's such a mystery of the university as to why this was made blue too, making it all the more difficult to not abuse but simply use.
Statistically a game of Russian roulette will be pretty good for you if you have one bullet in the revolver but do you really want to play that game at all? When the trigger is pulled, your being alive and well is a yes/no thing after all.
On the other hand, people do seem to like playing magic in spite of the shuffled decks. Probably because they don't die from a single lost game (particularly multiplayer), but also because so much of winning the game comes down to probability anyway. (How many T1 matchups are better than 83% win rate?)
People really need to take a chill pill on this one.
I barely play any of the casual formats - I play Commander, but would never play this, and play Cube, which obviously only has the good cards - yet I'm not annoyed by this in the slightest.
This card is filled with flavor. Everything makes sense. It's an Izzet Goblin. Randomness is a part of Magic. It's fun, it will create exciting moments for the players that like it and get thrilled by deciding abilities with dice/coins. It's not like this is a card with "flip a coin, if you win, win the game". This will see zero Constructed play, so no need to worry about it, and will only make it in Draft when someone drafts URx and it doesn't go very well and they have to fit this as the last card.
Even if someone does play this against you in draft or something and wins all the "random clashes", how is this any worse than when they Grisly Salvage and hit exactly Unburial Rites + Angel of Serenity, or when they go t1 Delver, t2 Delver Delver, and t3 they all magically flip, without a single library manipulation spell? That's random too. It's part of the game.
This is an uncommon, for crying out loud. No one is losing any money because of this. Cards like One With Nothing are MUCH less defensible and they do see the occasional print. Personally, on a "I will never play this" basis, I'm much more annoyed by Worldfire than this, because fire gets rid of my rare. This is just a fun uncommon, and it is NOT taking the slot of a good uncommon. It's taking the slot of a BAD uncommon.
And Izzet needs some love? Mizzium Mortars, two of the best planeswalkers in the block are either Izzet (Ral) or playable in Izzet (Jace), Niv-Mizzet rules, Izzet Charm is easily in the Top 5 charms, etc. All guilds get good and bad cards. I'm sure Dragon's Maze will have some excellent Izzet stuff.
It's not like they haven't done it before. And I'd play her anyday over this jank.
Tibalt.
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First, that costs 4cmc, while GTP is a 3cmc.
Second, It's a x2 which means Lava Dart won't kill it.
Third, IT has flying and can block lingering soul tokens. Very relevant for this meta.
Fourth, "comprehensibility" isn't a reason to NOT play a card. Best case scenario there are always 3 legal targets barring some form of "hexproof" effect. Worse case is you ovanize a Giest of St. Traft with rancor with humility in play that you can target because of Glaring Spotlight..
This is an expert expansion - WoTC purposefully designs cards like this. New players see a bat, expert players see batman.
To repeat: IT'S REPEATABLE 2 DAMAGE. That's very, very good. Give it deathtouch and you mitigate most of the draw back assuming you have little board. It's a very efficient creature...
Tibalt, just as a heads up, received some really nice support in toil//trouble. Imagine just Sudden Impacting your opponent twice. If no one remembers Howling Mine..
//edit// I know this is a double post but I want these two thoughts separate as they don't relate to each other.
"Stoned players can't attack, block, or play spells or abilities."
A 2/2 flyer for 3cmc in blue that could randomly shock? That would be really really OP.
No - Hexproof says you/your creature can't be the target of spells or abilities of your opponents control.
However, with Shroud, yes, you'd be correct.
lol, bah, guess I'm not used to my own stuff attacking me!
If you don't control others creatures then
YESEDIT: Shroud
You have a a 66% that it won't hit you
Ahahahahah
you think cards like this are fun?
ahshshs each to their own I guess?
And it's not that hard in casual to combo him with something to mitigate the randomness. True Believer/Runed Halo for instance. The combo with Gisela, Blade of Goldnight is interesting too, not that she needs the help.
I seriously can't wait to see a match where GTP is the only creature on the field and both players are at 2 life. If I controlled him, I'd go balls to the wall and tap that bad boy!
If you seriously don't like the guy, don't draft him and let inexperienced/fun players grab him in a draft, but I'm sure this little fella will pull out some surprises in the end.
Paper it's hideous. Every activation will cause no end of trouble.
The Gatecrash FAQ for Illusionist's Bracers states:
"The copy will have the same targets as the ability it's copying unless you choose new ones. You may change any number of the targets, including all of them or none of them."
This leads me to believe that the copy does indeed bypass the random targetting.
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/faq/gtc
Can't say there's any way to use this that's good or gainful, at least without massive inconvenience to yourself. It's not as though there's a Krark's Thumb or Goblin Bookie to break this.
I think it has some (very limited) potential synergies with other cards in the block, mostly in white. Reckoner, pallisade giant, holy mantle, guildscorn ward.
Yeah but it's such a mystery of the university as to why this was made blue too, making it all the more difficult to not abuse but simply use.
On the other hand, people do seem to like playing magic in spite of the shuffled decks. Probably because they don't die from a single lost game (particularly multiplayer), but also because so much of winning the game comes down to probability anyway. (How many T1 matchups are better than 83% win rate?)
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Legacy:
DeathBlade
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BUG Control
I barely play any of the casual formats - I play Commander, but would never play this, and play Cube, which obviously only has the good cards - yet I'm not annoyed by this in the slightest.
This card is filled with flavor. Everything makes sense. It's an Izzet Goblin. Randomness is a part of Magic. It's fun, it will create exciting moments for the players that like it and get thrilled by deciding abilities with dice/coins. It's not like this is a card with "flip a coin, if you win, win the game". This will see zero Constructed play, so no need to worry about it, and will only make it in Draft when someone drafts URx and it doesn't go very well and they have to fit this as the last card.
Even if someone does play this against you in draft or something and wins all the "random clashes", how is this any worse than when they Grisly Salvage and hit exactly Unburial Rites + Angel of Serenity, or when they go t1 Delver, t2 Delver Delver, and t3 they all magically flip, without a single library manipulation spell? That's random too. It's part of the game.
This is an uncommon, for crying out loud. No one is losing any money because of this. Cards like One With Nothing are MUCH less defensible and they do see the occasional print. Personally, on a "I will never play this" basis, I'm much more annoyed by Worldfire than this, because fire gets rid of my rare. This is just a fun uncommon, and it is NOT taking the slot of a good uncommon. It's taking the slot of a BAD uncommon.
And Izzet needs some love? Mizzium Mortars, two of the best planeswalkers in the block are either Izzet (Ral) or playable in Izzet (Jace), Niv-Mizzet rules, Izzet Charm is easily in the Top 5 charms, etc. All guilds get good and bad cards. I'm sure Dragon's Maze will have some excellent Izzet stuff.
Seriously, just /chill