Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker
3UB
Legendary Creature - Vampire
Flying
Whenever Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker deals combat damage to a player, that player reveals cards from the top of his or her library until he or she reveals four land cards, then puts those cards into his or her graveyard.
2/4
My primary criticism is that they didn't use the less-open-to-debate "puts all cards revealed this way into his or her graveyard" wording from Mind Grind. I see a few casual headaches.
I cant really wrap my head around this, how hard can it possibly be to just make the champions good? Why are some of them so obviously better than others or in a few cases straight up terrible? Is it not clear to R&D that every guild fanboy/girl want a decent champions representing!
I'm trying to wrap my head around a world in which one set contained ten creatures that were playable in competitive formats and interesting EDH generals, while also appealing to all the possible attractions of their respective guilds.
Speaking in terms of limited - offensively he effectively has five power that ignores any incidental lifegain and synergizes with any incidental mill you manage to pick up. With 17 lands per library and coming out turn five, if your opponent has drawn or draws a 6th land in the next two turns and can neither remove nor block it, Mirko kills by himself in three turns. At worst he has to connect four times - like a five power creature - since they're guaranteed to have drawn at least two lands in five turns and if they haven't they've all ready conceded - to kill an opponent all by himself. If you have, for instance, a board of 3 other creatures including an Undercity Informer and have hit a land off Grisly Spectacle - incidental mill cards that do things a black deck wanted to do in GTC - he turns into a two turn clock.
I can get how competitive constructed (22-26 lands iirc) EDH people (40+ lands - they're dead from his general damage before they're milled out) and probably even casual people (mill has a hate lobby online from what I can see) could see this as a waste of cardboard, but I think he's an awesomely balanced limited card (splashable, not quite a bomb for all decks but a bomb for the deck with enough incidental mill) with a huge amount of flavour.
I cant really wrap my head around this, how hard can it possibly be to just make the champions good? Why are some of them so obviously better than others or in a few cases straight up terrible? Is it not clear to R&D that every guild fanboy/girl want a decent champions representing!
Trying to get everyone to like everything will end up ensuring no one likes anything. It's much better design for R&D to make some Maze Runners for Standard, some for EDH, and some for even more casual environments. It allows them to ensure that card will please the people they were meant for. If you don't like a particular card, it wasn't meant for you.
Really think he should have costed 4, so it curved into Consuming Abberation. It's not very constructed playable, but people are certainly going to try.
Like me.
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Really think he should have costed 4, so it curved into Consuming Abberation. It's not very constructed playable, but people are certainly going to try.
Like me.
I would have rather he be T3 and either 2/4 Grind 2 or 2/3 Grind 3. So he curved into Lazav and Consuming.
I think they should have lowered the mill to three land, dropped him down to a 1/3 or something like that, and had him have a cmc of three, curve into lazav, into aberration, it still would have been laughed at by every spike, and played only on the fringes by sickos who like tormenting their friends. *whistle, whistle*
Man I had such high hopes for this card. The art and guild affiliation drew my eye from the moment it was revealed. This is pretty disappointing; a 2/4 flying mill engine for 5 is nowhere near playable in anything but the most desperate mill decks. I can only hope the Dimir mythic will up the ante.
Probably will put him in my Lazav EDH, but he just seems so inadequate. Compared to Nemesis of Reason, he has far worst stats and has to connect, rather than just attack. Maybe if he had hexproof, costed less or had better stats I would like him more, but he just seems so underpowered.
While he's certainly not constructed playable, I would have no problems with first picking him in a draft or playing him in sealed. in a 40-card format he will mill people out quite quickly, and be an "answer this or get wrecked" play.
While he's certainly not constructed playable, I would have no problems with first picking him in a draft or playing him in sealed. in a 40-card format he will mill people out quite quickly, and be an "answer this or get wrecked" play.
.....or they play anything flying with a 3+ toughness and laugh. Any creature with reach will do as well. That is just how bad this guy really is. Even for limited I wouldn't pick him.
Trying to get everyone to like everything will end up ensuring no one likes anything. It's much better design for R&D to make some Maze Runners for Standard, some for EDH, and some for even more casual environments. It allows them to ensure that card will please the people they were meant for. If you don't like a particular card, it wasn't meant for you.
This is ridiculous. Who on earth are these people that are satisfied with the design and at the same time...would be not satisfied if the card would have an additional effect? Limited? Jesus christ a deathpackt angel is good in limited....everything that doesnt have written "I suck apparently" is good in limited. And most of all, I cant imagine people are still automatically saying casul = weak. Have you seen some decent cubes? Or some EDH decks that are actually powerful? Good luck playing Mirvos over cards like necropotence, nemesis of reason if u want to mill or whatever strong card there is.
PS: this post doesnt speak up directly and only at your particular post, this opinion seemed to be rolling in more numbers.
3UB
Legendary Creature - Vampire
Flying
Whenever Mirko Vosk, Mind Drinker deals combat damage to a player, that player reveals cards from the top of his or her library until he or she reveals four land cards, then puts those cards into his or her graveyard.
2/4
I suppose he is pretty good in limited, so that's always something... I guess...
I'm trying to wrap my head around a world in which one set contained ten creatures that were playable in competitive formats and interesting EDH generals, while also appealing to all the possible attractions of their respective guilds.
He's also pretty decent in limited.
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I can get how competitive constructed (22-26 lands iirc) EDH people (40+ lands - they're dead from his general damage before they're milled out) and probably even casual people (mill has a hate lobby online from what I can see) could see this as a waste of cardboard, but I think he's an awesomely balanced limited card (splashable, not quite a bomb for all decks but a bomb for the deck with enough incidental mill) with a huge amount of flavour.
Trying to get everyone to like everything will end up ensuring no one likes anything. It's much better design for R&D to make some Maze Runners for Standard, some for EDH, and some for even more casual environments. It allows them to ensure that card will please the people they were meant for. If you don't like a particular card, it wasn't meant for you.
Plenty of ways to make him unblockable which turns him into a dangerous clock that needs to be answered
Works very, very well with Lazav, Dimir Mastermind
Sure it isn't all that interesting but he's far from bad
Like me.
I would have rather he be T3 and either 2/4 Grind 2 or 2/3 Grind 3. So he curved into Lazav and Consuming.
Biggest disappointment of the set so far for me, personally. Zero potential for anything but a kitchen table deck, and a bad one at that.
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.....or they play anything flying with a 3+ toughness and laugh. Any creature with reach will do as well. That is just how bad this guy really is. Even for limited I wouldn't pick him.
This is ridiculous. Who on earth are these people that are satisfied with the design and at the same time...would be not satisfied if the card would have an additional effect? Limited? Jesus christ a deathpackt angel is good in limited....everything that doesnt have written "I suck apparently" is good in limited. And most of all, I cant imagine people are still automatically saying casul = weak. Have you seen some decent cubes? Or some EDH decks that are actually powerful? Good luck playing Mirvos over cards like necropotence, nemesis of reason if u want to mill or whatever strong card there is.
PS: this post doesnt speak up directly and only at your particular post, this opinion seemed to be rolling in more numbers.
Personally I think it would have been fine if it costed 1 mana lower, but I seem to think that for almost all the guildheroes.
In any case I am a bit shocked to see wind drake be legendary, rare, double coloured, cost 1 more, and only have 1 upside.
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