Why would anyone run this over Doomblade, other than as a heavy sideboard card or in limited?
Doom blade is not terminate.
In EDH, I can definitely see running this over doom blade. Let's say you're mono-black. With a card like doom blade, you're running the risk of not being able to kill a huge bomby black creature of an opponent's. You're ALSO running the risk of not being able to kill clone effects, which abound in EDH.
I could see a lot of people trying this card out in EDH over Go for the Throat and the good 3 mana non spirit card.
What if there is no werewolf, vampire, or whatever that sees play in a tier 1 standard deck next standard season? Then this card just reads "Destroy target creature except in casual games."
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Why would anyone run this over Doomblade, other than as a heavy sideboard card or in limited?
Well look at what doom blade cannot hit. And then look at what what victim of night hits. You kill all artifact creatures and all black creatures. Vampires this time around are red for the most part so doom blade is actually much better against them then normal. (and honestly vamps so far are pretty bad so i wouldnt expect to see too many of them anyway) Zombies are mostly tokens this time around so any form of pinpoint removal is bad against them. Doom blade is better vs werewolves overall though...But then again do you REALLY expect to be facing werewolves often? Don't let the 3 nons in the card mislead you into thinking it is not good because honestly it is a great piece of removal overall.
I think it's much better than Doom Blade or GftT if your Mono- or heavy black and with the huge amount of color fixing lands nowadays, this probably goes in any deck with Black in it. The "restrictions" on this card aren't as bad as the "restriction" on Doom Blade or GftT. You can hit all the Titans and all the artifact creatures with it and now that Vampires is likely on its way out, this might as well say "Destroy target creature", which is what is says 99.9% of the time in formats other than Standard.
When I saw that card it made me wonder if they anticipated those three tribes to be non-competitive in T2 for the first set of this block (INN). Probably reading a little too much into it there.
As other folks have said, when you are playing an opponent that does not make use of one of those three tribes, it says "kill target creature". Or even if he has a creature from one of those tribes, as long as it is not a threat that you cannot deal with in another manner.
I think it is deceptively powerful. It will depend on the metagame, just like most of everything does.
The point of it is to destroy non-monster creatures.
::troll::
Seriously though, it seems to shine as a kill spell that brings death to all of control's favorite finishers, often selected for their resistance to various removal. Wurmcoils (Throat Resistant), Grave Titan (Doom Blade Resistant), and Consecrated Sphinx. All of which are Dismember Resistant.
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Since I'm not expecting Vampires, Werewolves, or Zombies to be heavily competitive, this card is MUCH better than doom blade, especially when you consider Doom Blade probably isn't hitting very many Vampires or Zombies anyway.
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Why would anyone run this over Doomblade, other than as a heavy sideboard card or in LIMITED?
*cough*
But this could also work well in constructed, where, honestly, the BB is likely to be by its greatest drawback (though I wouldn't be shocked to see some sort of RB aggro akin to current Vampires in Standard, if not after this set then later in the block, and I'd expect it to run vampires and/or zombies).
I can also see it as a possibility in EDH, where there are practically always some relevant black and artifact creatures running around.
Beyond that the "point" of Victim of Night is(like most of Innistrad) entirely flavour based.
It's also, it should be noted, a way of supporting these three tribes, by making a powerful removal spell that answers all of the other threats of the format but leaves these unharmed. That way, in a format where this becomes the removal spell of choice, these tribes gain additional resiliency and thus extra value.
Go for the Throat had the same effect for one of the major themes of Scars block.
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The point of this card is that 1. It's flavourful, 2. It puts some of the block's themes across, and 3. It helps shape the Limited format. It might also have some application in Constructed formats that aren't exactly swarming with vampires, zombies, and werewolves.
Cards aren't put in a format to be good. Remember back in Mirrodin? Shatter and Terror were reprinted, and now Shatter looked like a house while Terror was, well, terrible (Especially when it turns out that the format-defining creature in the block was the black Disciple of the Vault). This is Innistrad's Terror; it's here to illustrate something about the environment as much as it is here to be played.
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Doom blade is a dead card against bobs, tombstalkers, germ tokens(puresteel.dek, batterskull) and grave titan.
Throat is a dead card against all steel, affinity, metalworker variants, tezzeret and wurmcoil.
Victim is dead against what, non-existant zombie, vampire, werewolf tribal? Yeah, right, limited only jank, go play with doom blade instead and have dead cards against all real decks.
I have a feeling this is their typical removal spell that is incredibly awesome in older formats but only so-so in Limited, much like Go for the Throat (although the latter was pretty good in Limited, sometimes it was useless). I could see this not going particularly high because so many decks will be playing a very high concentration of non-targets. It'll be good against Human and Spirit decks, sure, but Celestial Purge has targets against 7/10 two color combinations and is much more versatile yet isn't a particularly high pick. We'll have to go through the spoiler once it's complete and look to see just what the percentage of non-targets in a typical black/blue, black/red, or red/green deck is going to be.
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Why would anyone run this over Doomblade, other than as a heavy sideboard card or in limited?
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Doom blade is not terminate.
In EDH, I can definitely see running this over doom blade. Let's say you're mono-black. With a card like doom blade, you're running the risk of not being able to kill a huge bomby black creature of an opponent's. You're ALSO running the risk of not being able to kill clone effects, which abound in EDH.
I could see a lot of people trying this card out in EDH over Go for the Throat and the good 3 mana non spirit card.
What if there is no werewolf, vampire, or whatever that sees play in a tier 1 standard deck next standard season? Then this card just reads "Destroy target creature except in casual games."
Well look at what doom blade cannot hit. And then look at what what victim of night hits. You kill all artifact creatures and all black creatures. Vampires this time around are red for the most part so doom blade is actually much better against them then normal. (and honestly vamps so far are pretty bad so i wouldnt expect to see too many of them anyway) Zombies are mostly tokens this time around so any form of pinpoint removal is bad against them. Doom blade is better vs werewolves overall though...But then again do you REALLY expect to be facing werewolves often? Don't let the 3 nons in the card mislead you into thinking it is not good because honestly it is a great piece of removal overall.
As other folks have said, when you are playing an opponent that does not make use of one of those three tribes, it says "kill target creature". Or even if he has a creature from one of those tribes, as long as it is not a threat that you cannot deal with in another manner.
I think it is deceptively powerful. It will depend on the metagame, just like most of everything does.
::troll::
Seriously though, it seems to shine as a kill spell that brings death to all of control's favorite finishers, often selected for their resistance to various removal. Wurmcoils (Throat Resistant), Grave Titan (Doom Blade Resistant), and Consecrated Sphinx. All of which are Dismember Resistant.
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penetrates our facades, even the most
perceptive would still be fundamentally
unprepared for the truth of House Dimir."
Beyond that the "point" of Victim of Night is(like most of Innistrad) entirely flavour based.
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Dismember doesn't kill those dudes either, but Victim of night does..
*cough*
But this could also work well in constructed, where, honestly, the BB is likely to be by its greatest drawback (though I wouldn't be shocked to see some sort of RB aggro akin to current Vampires in Standard, if not after this set then later in the block, and I'd expect it to run vampires and/or zombies).
I can also see it as a possibility in EDH, where there are practically always some relevant black and artifact creatures running around.
Go for the Throat had the same effect for one of the major themes of Scars block.
~ Sรธren Aabye Kierkegaard
Cards aren't put in a format to be good. Remember back in Mirrodin? Shatter and Terror were reprinted, and now Shatter looked like a house while Terror was, well, terrible (Especially when it turns out that the format-defining creature in the block was the black Disciple of the Vault). This is Innistrad's Terror; it's here to illustrate something about the environment as much as it is here to be played.
Throat is a dead card against all steel, affinity, metalworker variants, tezzeret and wurmcoil.
Victim is dead against what, non-existant zombie, vampire, werewolf tribal? Yeah, right, limited only jank, go play with doom blade instead and have dead cards against all real decks.