MTG Salvation

I'd say it's flat out wrong to not play green in this pool. The green cards are quite good.

Green is definitely playing

Boar Umbra
Daggerback Basilisk
Kozilek's Predator
Kozilek's Predator
Momentous Fall
Nest Invader
Ondu Giant
Overgrown Battlement
Overgrown Battlement
Pelakka Wurm
Sporecap Spider
Stomper Cub
Wildheart Invoker
Wildheart Invoker

And these are the colorless cards that are definitely in:
Artisan of Kozilek
Warmonger's Chariot
Warmonger's chariot

That makes 17 must-play cards. So we want to find the next 5 best cards in other colors

White:
Knight of Cliffhaven
Knight of Cliffhaven
Caravan Escort
Ikiral Outrider
Puncturing Light
Lone Missionary (over Nest Invader)
(you could make a case to run Kor Spiritdancer and put all the totem armors in, but I don't think it's worth it.)

Blue:
Skywatcher Adept
Skywatcher Adept
Narcolepsy
Eel Umbra
See Beyond or Distortion Strike

Black:
Induce Despair
Null Champion
Null Champion
Skeletal Wurm
Skeletal Wurm

Red:
Brimstone Mage
Emrakul's Hatcher
Emrakul's Hatcher
Forked Bolt
World at War

Out of all of those sets, I'd say black si the best. You don't need a heavy color commitment at all too, so your mana will be very consistent. The bottom line is, Null Champion is one of the better levelers, and Skeletal Wurm is very good with all of our mana.

Going red gives you the hatchers, which are very good, along with some solid red cards, but you won't have enough to use all of the mana on. Blue and White both give you good solid leveling fliers, and may be a good sideboard swap option if you run into an opponent with a lot of flying. I feel that the black cards make better use of your crazy mana acceleration though (and momentous fall).

Yes, that's not how you usually analyze a sealed pool, but this one is sufficiently lopsided that I think it works.

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Why would we need spoiler tags in a Rumor Mill subforum? And why the Limited Forum? After all... there are tons of post-RoE Standard decks in this forum...

Just curious.

Giant pictures. Should be spoiler tagged for those with comps that have poor load speeds.

I think Standard Forum has a rule about posting new set criteria before official release. Limited does not have such a rule. Its a good exercise for that area of MTGS. Limited regs who don't visit the rumor mill get the benefit, and it generates traffic to the Limited section.

UW is looking pretty good, loading up on some of the level-up flyers and umbras along with Gravitational Shift could be pretty good interaction. I'm also a fan of rebound spells, such as Distortion Strike and Survival Cache. Puncturing Light and Narcolepsy are decent removal spells as well.

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Giant pictures. Should be spoiler tagged for those with comps that have poor load speeds.

I think Standard Forum has a rule about posting new set criteria before official release. Limited does not have such a rule. Its a good exercise for that area of MTGS. Limited regs who don't visit the rumor mill get the benefit, and it generates traffic to the Limited section.

Speaking as one of those people- I would have never seen this thread if it was in that section, though. (I'm very curious why people are even considering the white, as it looks very very shallow to me.)

Green because it has everything.

Blue because you have 2 distortion strikes.

Am I the only one who doesnt have the whole picture showing?

I would go with G/W and probably splash just a bit of blue for the adepts narcolepsy and the teacher. Maybe but just maybe I would replace W for R, since those packs are really thin on removal.

green white--I'm more tempted by the blue than the black or red, but it just doesn't bring to the table what white or green does in this pool.

What program did you generate this on?

Green White is what I'd go. Great amount of Aura's, removal, Leveler's and Defenders (I say defenders because SOMEBODY pulled 2x Chariots). Gorgeous pull. You could very well win a Sealed with a white green pull like that.

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Giant pictures. Should be spoiler tagged for those with comps that have poor load speeds.

I don't think that works, given how spoiler tags work. The browser loads the images when the page loads, even if they are hidden by a spoiler tag.

I think Standard Forum has a rule about posting new set criteria before official release. Limited does not have such a rule. Its a good exercise for that area of MTGS. Limited regs who don't visit the rumor mill get the benefit, and it generates traffic to the Limited section.

There's a sticky here that says all discussion of unreleased cards should be here, though. I didn't realize you allowed it there.

At any rate, I do think it's appropriate here. The 2 forums have different audiences. The Limited forum is for those specifically interested in Limited; the audience here is broader. Think of it as PTQ players vs. prerelease players. So it's more useful here, as people can see what to expect from the wider pool of prerelease participants.

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What program did you generate this on?

I use some Automator scripts I wrote myself to generate random boosters. Then I use GraphicConverter to stitch the images together.

i'd play green/white with the eldrazi dude. i wouldn't mind getting a sealed like this, that green is awesome.

Green/White, splashing black for the Skeletal Wurms.

Green has AMAZING mana accel in this pool, and White provides solid creatures, including some potential Serra Angels to go over the top late-game. However, we're still a little short of finishers, and the Wurms are very low commitment.

UG for me. I say the green here is way too savage to ignore, plus 2 disortion strikes is hot like lava sauce. Keep em commin Fnord.

Green for sure. Then probably a U, W, or B splash.


I like the support blue gives, but black also sets you up with those sweet skeletal wurms.


I'd have to chose white, though, because I love the support givin by the Enchantment lady along with some playable totem armors.

Hmmm what does I'd build two decks and try to determine which one runs better count as? Whenever I do sealed my sideboard always includes another deck. I think I'd go blue white and green black here, although green red is also a possibility.

GU or GW, i went with GU cause its got two distortion strikes, and it looks like i can be quite aggressive early on. green is a no brainer.

Why is everyone so excited about distortion strike? It seems rather bad to me. What creatures are you going to want to cast this on? Eldrazi? No. Levelers? No...because they get so big or get evasion eventually anyway. Some random 2-4 power dork? If you do that, you get in for 6-10 damage over two turns. For only 1 mana thats not bad. If we were still in ZZW land it would be a great card.

In ROE limited however, it seems pretty terrible. This format is not about racing, its about bombs. I feel like the times that a game is going to develop into a race are few and far between compared to "who draws a bomb, or who attacks with their bomb, or who lands a bomb when the opponent has no removal." Something like that. Coming out of the ractacular format that is zendikar and worldwake, I understand this feeling, but ROE limited is sure to be bomb driven, not racing.

And what is everyones feelings on reinforced bulwark? How good is this common in the format? It seems like it does a good job of stalling and obviously works fabulously with any of the defender "lords". I'm leaning toward them being playable but maybe they are just bad.

Here's my build. The Surreal Memoir is definitely the riskiest choice, but I thought the ability to pull off 3x Momentous Fall or 3x (black removal spell) outweighed the risk of drawing it dead.

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GB gets my vote. I think people are underestimating how good the black is.

I voted for that too. Sure, black has only a few playables, but with so much green awesomeness going on, you don't need many. The Null Champions and Skeletal Wurms are both awesome, and Induce Despair is the best removal card in the batch. Gloomhunter seems playable in this environment as well. I'm on the fence about Thought Gorger. That is a lot of card disadvantage, and since you'll need mana, you can't afford to ditch lands. I think I wouldn't play it.

Why aren't people playing the Lifestrider?

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He doesn't seem too great unless you have a ton of Spawn tokens out. Lifegain generally isn't very good. And we aren't struggling for playables.

Emphasis added because he's absolutely absurd with the predator/hatcher.