We're getting another set of 5 precons, this time built exclusively for newer Commander players. More details will be revealed going into its December 2 release. For now, face commanders. These decks may or may not be all reprints.
Seeing Kardur annoys the crap out of me, only because one player in my groups plays it and the constant goading is awful. I'm sure they'll love it though.
now Commander decks can be built around legends already printed
Other forums seem to believe that these will be dirt cheap and for entry level purposes. I think using reprints is a fine strategy for that, a clear signal to experienced players "this is not for you". But for my 13 years old nephew, maybe it's perfect.
now Commander decks can be built around legends already printed
Other forums seem to believe that these will be dirt cheap and for entry level purposes. I think using reprints is a fine strategy for that, a clear signal to experienced players "this is not for you". But for my 13 years old nephew, maybe it's perfect.
yea I wouldn’t hold hope for that
Knowing wizards there will be atleast one chase reprint card inside These and those alone will like prevent it from being dirt cheap
now Commander decks can be built around legends already printed
Other forums seem to believe that these will be dirt cheap and for entry level purposes. I think using reprints is a fine strategy for that, a clear signal to experienced players "this is not for you". But for my 13 years old nephew, maybe it's perfect.
yea I wouldn’t hold hope for that
Knowing wizards there will be atleast one chase reprint card inside These and those alone will like prevent it from being dirt cheap
Sure, that's possible. I would hope that if they do they print scads of these and tank the price. I don't see a good reason for Rot Hulk to be a $30 card other than insufficient printings.
now Commander decks can be built around legends already printed
Other forums seem to believe that these will be dirt cheap and for entry level purposes. I think using reprints is a fine strategy for that, a clear signal to experienced players "this is not for you". But for my 13 years old nephew, maybe it's perfect.
A bundle of all 5 are up for preorder on Amazon for $94.95, o these should be at a cheap $20 each.
I don't think that we're going to see any cards in this decks worth value. Maybe 1-2 cards in the $2 range at most. Here's the type of thing that I'm expecting for the Azorius deck, for example...
Lots of things that make sense or may look interesting or synergistic when shoved next to each other but nothing of real substance... and virtually no non-evergreen abilities, either.
I don't think that we're going to see any cards in this decks worth value. Maybe 1-2 cards in the $2 range at most. Here's the type of thing that I'm expecting for the Azorius deck, for example...
Lots of things that make sense or may look interesting or synergistic when shoved next to each other but nothing of real substance... and virtually no non-evergreen abilities, either.
… you are aware how the weaker versions of the decks started in zendikar rising? It still had good reprints in those decks
I don't think that we're going to see any cards in this decks worth value. Maybe 1-2 cards in the $2 range at most. Here's the type of thing that I'm expecting for the Azorius deck, for example...
Lots of things that make sense or may look interesting or synergistic when shoved next to each other but nothing of real substance... and virtually no non-evergreen abilities, either.
… you are aware how the weaker versions of the decks started in zendikar rising? It still had good reprints in those decks
I’m aware. I’m just extra pessimistic on this particular set of them.
Wizards doing good intro commander decks with value, doing away with them to make a whole bunch of full-cost commander decks, and spontaneously deciding to change course again to make another set of intro just as powerful as the first ones seems a bit odd.
now Commander decks can be built around legends already printed
Other forums seem to believe that these will be dirt cheap and for entry level purposes. I think using reprints is a fine strategy for that, a clear signal to experienced players "this is not for you". But for my 13 years old nephew, maybe it's perfect.
yea I wouldn’t hold hope for that
Knowing wizards there will be atleast one chase reprint card inside These and those alone will like prevent it from being dirt cheap
Not throwing a bone to established players is absolutely the stupidest possible thing to do with a Magic product. You're pushing 99% of your customers away in order to gain quite literally nothing at all. The argument they keep running with that new players can't get their hands on it because enfranchised players snap it all up is brain-meltingly stupid.
Just. Print. More.
It's like they hate money or something, but we know that's not true so I don't get why they keep trotting out this empirically incorrect theory that flies in the face of all of the data and elementary logic as to why new players aren't buying their intro products.
Intro Decks are a perfect example: They used to be good, so existing players bought them for their contents. WotC saw that... I guess... too many people were buying them? Oh noooooo! So they made them dramatically worse on purpose. Then nobody bought them anymore. There was never any magical uptick in new player purchases as a result. Then WotC saw they weren't selling and scrapped them... instead of just making them good again.
now Commander decks can be built around legends already printed
Other forums seem to believe that these will be dirt cheap and for entry level purposes. I think using reprints is a fine strategy for that, a clear signal to experienced players "this is not for you". But for my 13 years old nephew, maybe it's perfect.
yea I wouldn’t hold hope for that
Knowing wizards there will be atleast one chase reprint card inside These and those alone will like prevent it from being dirt cheap
Tempest and Heirophants are the only cards I spotted on all the lists over $5, and there are only a dozen or so cards in each deck that are over a dollar.
Since these are "intro" products, these are likely intended to be reprinted and kept in circulation for a while, so prices will be kept low.
EDIT: Oops, I missed lightning greaves and liliana are also over $5.
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We're getting another set of 5 precons, this time built exclusively for newer Commander players. More details will be revealed going into its December 2 release. For now, face commanders. These decks may or may not be all reprints.
Source: Weekly MTG
now Commander decks can be built around legends already printed
Other forums seem to believe that these will be dirt cheap and for entry level purposes. I think using reprints is a fine strategy for that, a clear signal to experienced players "this is not for you". But for my 13 years old nephew, maybe it's perfect.
yea I wouldn’t hold hope for that
Knowing wizards there will be atleast one chase reprint card inside These and those alone will like prevent it from being dirt cheap
For example the Gisa and geralf deck could end up having something like Rot Hulk or Sidisi, Undead Vizier as reprints
Sure, that's possible. I would hope that if they do they print scads of these and tank the price. I don't see a good reason for Rot Hulk to be a $30 card other than insufficient printings.
Aegis Angel
Angelic Arbiter
Archon of Redemption
Aven Gagglemaster
Djinn of Wishes
Drogskol Cavalry
Empyrean Eagle
Faerie Formation
Hanged Executioner
Herald of the Sun
Jubilant Skybonder
Kangee, Sky Warden
Luminous Angel
Radiant, Serra Archangel
Siani, Eye of the Storm
Skycat Sovereign
Soulcatcher
Sphinx of Magosi
Spirit of the Spires
Sprite Noble
Steel-Plume Marshal
Thunderclap Wyvern
Tide Skimmer
Warden of Evos Isle
Watcher of the Spheres
Windreader Sphinx
Windstorm Drake
Wingspan Mentor
Aerial Assault
Favorable Winds
Field of Souls
Gust of Wind
Midnight Haunting
Rally of Wings
Seraphic Greatsword
Soulcatcher’s Aerie
Winged Words
Lots of things that make sense or may look interesting or synergistic when shoved next to each other but nothing of real substance... and virtually no non-evergreen abilities, either.
… you are aware how the weaker versions of the decks started in zendikar rising? It still had good reprints in those decks
I’m aware. I’m just extra pessimistic on this particular set of them.
Wizards doing good intro commander decks with value, doing away with them to make a whole bunch of full-cost commander decks, and spontaneously deciding to change course again to make another set of intro just as powerful as the first ones seems a bit odd.
https://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/starter-commander-decks-decklists-2022-10-20
sadly i was right i was totally right theres no way they will stick at $20 because of the reprints are phenomal
the tailsmen and signets
all reprints for these decks
Just. Print. More.
It's like they hate money or something, but we know that's not true so I don't get why they keep trotting out this empirically incorrect theory that flies in the face of all of the data and elementary logic as to why new players aren't buying their intro products.
Intro Decks are a perfect example: They used to be good, so existing players bought them for their contents. WotC saw that... I guess... too many people were buying them? Oh noooooo! So they made them dramatically worse on purpose. Then nobody bought them anymore. There was never any magical uptick in new player purchases as a result. Then WotC saw they weren't selling and scrapped them... instead of just making them good again.
I feel like I'm taking crazy pills.
The reprints are mediocre at best:
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/articles/starter-commander-deck-decklists
Yeah some have some ok value but they won't hold that value after these are on shelves.
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Tempest and Heirophants are the only cards I spotted on all the lists over $5, and there are only a dozen or so cards in each deck that are over a dollar.
Since these are "intro" products, these are likely intended to be reprinted and kept in circulation for a while, so prices will be kept low.
EDIT: Oops, I missed lightning greaves and liliana are also over $5.