It's rounded down, so i don't get the hype for the discard ability. I mean it's a good ability, but it's not broken. If i have three cards in hand i only need to discard one.
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
Vampire demon makes sense, as a demon who is cursed with vampirism, or a vampire who descends into demonage (or a vampire who becomes possessed by a demon); but demon noble does not make any sense. Demons are hedonists and treacherer, thus they are ignoble.
Royalty is a status of birth, but Nobility is a status of merit. Hence the entire concept of Knighthood (where a peasant can become a noble).
Thus, a prince of hell is a royal, but is not a noble.
Vampire demon makes sense, as a demon who is cursed with vampirism, or a vampire who descends into demonage (or a vampire who becomes possessed by a demon); but demon noble does not make any sense. Demons are hedonists and treacherer, thus they are ignoble.
Royalty is a status of birth, but Nobility is a status of merit. Hence the entire concept of Knighthood (where a peasant can become a noble).
Thus, a prince of hell is a royal, but is not a noble.
This is not a demon who became a noble, though -- he started as a vampire noble and only became part demon later.
Vampire demon makes sense, as a demon who is cursed with vampirism, or a vampire who descends into demonage (or a vampire who becomes possessed by a demon); but demon noble does not make any sense. Demons are hedonists and treacherer, thus they are ignoble.
Royalty is a status of birth, but Nobility is a status of merit. Hence the entire concept of Knighthood (where a peasant can become a noble).
Thus, a prince of hell is a royal, but is not a noble.
This is not a demon who became a noble, though -- he started as a vampire noble and only became part demon later.
He's also wrong in that in Magic a Nobel is used for creatures part of the aristocracy* and not being nobel in spirit.
*typically if they don't have another "class".
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This is not a demon who became a noble, though -- he started as a vampire noble and only became part demon later.
Remember that these are not strictly "demons" in the purist sense. These are not like Griselbrand or demons on Innistrad, Lilliana's contract demons, classics like Reiver Demon, Grinning Demon, or even the demons from OG Kamigawa we see that there is a society here and they are leading "families" (either in the mafia sense or potential genetic sense) and they are not pure demons like we tend to see, especially the vampire.
Xander "reads" nice, but if you actually think about a board state on the later turns, its really not that impressive anymore (especially as its "target opponent" and not "each opponent").
Milling "halve" the library with each attack is also REALLY annoying to count in paper repeatable.
Vampire demon makes sense, as a demon who is cursed with vampirism, or a vampire who descends into demonage (or a vampire who becomes possessed by a demon); but demon noble does not make any sense. Demons are hedonists and treacherer, thus they are ignoble.
Royalty is a status of birth, but Nobility is a status of merit. Hence the entire concept of Knighthood (where a peasant can become a noble).
Thus, a prince of hell is a royal, but is not a noble.
To 'be noble' is based on morals and actions, but to be A noble is not. Like in England, there is only ever one 'royal' family at a time, the ones who could become king or queen if a few other people in line die. The other families with titles, dukes, earls, barons, they are all 'nobles' part of the 'nobility' They have official titles and hereditary rights and claims to land, but they are not in the 'royal' family. If you look at the archdemons, the pure demons at the beginning as kings and the 5 heads of the families as beings given rank and power by the kings, it's actually the perfect word.
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It is usually granted but also usually hereditary so anything can be noble. And depending on which customs you wanna go by royalty is nobility.
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The privileges associated with nobility may constitute substantial advantages over or relative to non-nobles or may be largely honorary (e.g., precedence), and vary by country and by era. Membership in the nobility, including rights and responsibilities, is typically hereditary.
So maybe Xander's ancestors might have become noble by merit and he just inherited the nobility.
Yeah, the heads of the families have obligations, they run the city services are absolutely required of them. I could step into a European History classroom right now and teach it, the number of 'nobles' who did not live up to a moral standard and still got the rank and their name in a history book is at least as long as the list of the decent ones. England has plenty of dukes and such to this day, I promise that not all of them are decent and responsible people.
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This is a common practice, but also mistake. Royals are denounced as nobles (or nobility) if they show degrading character.
When one becomes a demon, they would lose the title of nobility (no longer suited by the merits).
They didn't do their homework.
Their mistake now immortalized in ink.
Is Xander not fulfilling his social responsibilities? I haven't dived too deep in the story, but he seems to provide for those under him and oppose threats to the city.
From the world building panel they talked on that Capenna used to be a more traditional high fantasy plane and each of the families had a more traditional fantasy role. The BUR family used to be the aristocracy and art connoisseur who saved most of the art and history of Old Capenna when everyone had to flee into the city. The family heads where originally non-demon but became so after signing the deals with the archdemons to run the city.
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It is to say, said people are denounced as nobles.
Thus, a professional classification (such as [thought-to-be] designated on the creature type line) should not be mixing opposites and contradictions of class.
Fallen or defected (treacherers/pirates) individuals take up classes such as Rogueto reflect this.
In the case of the fallen, and extreme evil, they can be given the class Demon, but this strips any possible classes of [law/order/righteousness/piety].
It is to say, said people are denounced as nobles.
Thus, a professional classification (such as [thought-to-be] designated on the creature type line) should not be mixing opposites and contradictions of class.
Denounced by who? All the crime family heads were turned into demons bound by contract to protect New Capenna and maintain some semblance of balance, by the angels. Being a demon is a necessary part of their social obligations.
This is a wild tangent, I just meant that V (and also S) comes after D in the alphabet so the types aren't alphabetical not that vampire demons could or could not be nobles.
That said, magic tends to type the actual kings and queens in the world (royalty) as type "noble" so I don't think there's a whole lot of distinction to be made.
It is to say, said people are denounced as nobles.
Thus, a professional classification (such as [thought-to-be] designated on the creature type line) should not be mixing opposites and contradictions of class.
Fallen or defected (treacherers/pirates) individuals take up classes such as Rogueto reflect this.
In the case of the fallen, and extreme evil, they can be given the class Demon, but this strips any possible classes of [law/order/righteousness/piety].
Demons are generally beings of evil, but not necessarily beings of chaos. Themes of law and order are sometimes associated with demons, with a common trope being that they are bound to honor contracts they make.
Nobles, on the other hand, could be said to be people of law and order, but are not necessarily good people. Yes one could have their titles of nobility stripped for moral transgressions, but nobility and evil are not incompatible, as evidenced by large portions of human history.
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Doesn't explain sphinx demon or vampire demon.
Somebody better call the exorcist!
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I think this should have either said [if you cast it] or [each player discards half their hand] on that first one.
They weren't even trying to balance it you would think.
So you spend 2 cards to make me discard 3 cards at the absolute most, but often just 1 or 2 cards? Why is this any good?
You do also get the dies trigger as well with Flash. Still not that broken though. Plenty of good cards to use with Flash out there.
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Indeed, alphabetical order isn't usually the primary determining factor.
Here are the creature types that have appeared before demon:
Zombie, Crocodile, Ogre, Elder, Nightmare, Cat, Scorpion, Fungus, Phyrexian
And after (excluding class types):
Dog, Kraken, Spirit, Illusion, Dragon
Hard to make a pattern out of that besides that they were probably just put in whatever order felt right for the cards in question.
Edit: and if "broken with Flash" was a reason not to print something, they'd run out of new ideas real quick.
Vampire demon makes sense, as a demon who is cursed with vampirism, or a vampire who descends into demonage (or a vampire who becomes possessed by a demon); but demon noble does not make any sense. Demons are hedonists and treacherer, thus they are ignoble.
Royalty is a status of birth, but Nobility is a status of merit. Hence the entire concept of Knighthood (where a peasant can become a noble).
Thus, a prince of hell is a royal, but is not a noble.
This is not a demon who became a noble, though -- he started as a vampire noble and only became part demon later.
He's also wrong in that in Magic a Nobel is used for creatures part of the aristocracy* and not being nobel in spirit.
*typically if they don't have another "class".
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Remember that these are not strictly "demons" in the purist sense. These are not like Griselbrand or demons on Innistrad, Lilliana's contract demons, classics like Reiver Demon, Grinning Demon, or even the demons from OG Kamigawa we see that there is a society here and they are leading "families" (either in the mafia sense or potential genetic sense) and they are not pure demons like we tend to see, especially the vampire.
Milling "halve" the library with each attack is also REALLY annoying to count in paper repeatable.
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To 'be noble' is based on morals and actions, but to be A noble is not. Like in England, there is only ever one 'royal' family at a time, the ones who could become king or queen if a few other people in line die. The other families with titles, dukes, earls, barons, they are all 'nobles' part of the 'nobility' They have official titles and hereditary rights and claims to land, but they are not in the 'royal' family. If you look at the archdemons, the pure demons at the beginning as kings and the 5 heads of the families as beings given rank and power by the kings, it's actually the perfect word.
This is a common practice, but also mistake. Royals are denounced as nobles (or nobility) if they show degrading character.
When one becomes a demon, they would lose the title of nobility (no longer suited by the merits).
They didn't do their homework.
Their mistake now immortalized in ink.
If being a vampire didn't disqualify him from being a noble, being a demon is not that large stretch.
So maybe Xander's ancestors might have become noble by merit and he just inherited the nobility.
Is Xander not fulfilling his social responsibilities? I haven't dived too deep in the story, but he seems to provide for those under him and oppose threats to the city.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
Thus, a professional classification (such as [thought-to-be] designated on the creature type line) should not be mixing opposites and contradictions of class.
Fallen or defected (treacherers/pirates) individuals take up classes such as Rogue to reflect this.
In the case of the fallen, and extreme evil, they can be given the class Demon, but this strips any possible classes of [law/order/righteousness/piety].
For more neutral creature types, such as Vampire, the standing of demerit is reflected by the name, by additional classes or concept, but doesn't necessarily exempt merit by itself.
That said, magic tends to type the actual kings and queens in the world (royalty) as type "noble" so I don't think there's a whole lot of distinction to be made.
Demons are generally beings of evil, but not necessarily beings of chaos. Themes of law and order are sometimes associated with demons, with a common trope being that they are bound to honor contracts they make.
Nobles, on the other hand, could be said to be people of law and order, but are not necessarily good people. Yes one could have their titles of nobility stripped for moral transgressions, but nobility and evil are not incompatible, as evidenced by large portions of human history.