edit:apologizes to anyone who saw the original I may have jump to conclusions
Well that’s a tiny bit underwhelming since they didn't loop hole red in I guess we’re still using the original Edgar Markov
but I say this is better than it looks
1. +1/+1 for other vampires so good
2. He’s destroy proof plus can be a blocker for days
3. He makes 3 1/1's then wakes up and those become 2/2 til he goes back to sleep
Is it though? This keeps coming back over and over. If they kill it, you get 1/1 life-linking vampires for a couple of turns, then you get this guy back and your tokens are all now 2/2's.
The fact that removal doesn't really do anything to it unless you straight out exile him is pretty good. But is it enough?
I mean it's a great refiller after a board wipe but I don't know...
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I like him a lot. You kill him? It will make vampire tokens every turn and then returns. You dont kill it? Deal with a 4/4 at cmc4 in your face that also pump your other vampires. In EDH the Mardu Edgar will love his doppleganger.
Flavorfully is also very resonant. It fits perfectly the "Dracula resting in the coffin after the battle and then rise again" trope.
Is it though? This keeps coming back over and over. If they kill it, you get 1/1 life-linking vampires for a couple of turns, then you get this guy back and your tokens are all now 2/2's.
Yea I had a second thought reread before these post a bit better than he looks
so I edit my post with a new opinion so stick with original Edgar markov and put this bad boy in that deck.
Would certainly be more useful if it just returned if you have 3+ vampires.
Would also be better if it made tokens all the time, just like the original Edgar Markov , and yea, make him BGR , as vampires are clearly also red here, and slap on lifelink for himself (as the tokens get lifelink and the entire flavor of a bloodline, he should have lifelink as well if they are his bloodline).
So much flavor fail in this card ...
At least the second art version looks nice, the first is extremely lame.
why the hell did edgar receive no mythic treatment ?
i mean i like this rare, it is a good rare... but it is also edgar markov. to me this is a huge fail.
the artwork fails too...
i mean, i dont really know, on the one side this is really a good rare, hard to remove, makes dudes, pumps those dudes if they survive. nice circle. but here i am fully disappointed. gg wizards
Oh Edgar is the Orzhov Legendary so Odric could be the boros Vampire Legendary? I think there is still a slot in Multicolor for him? I am not sure, tho. He could end up as mono white, too.
Similar to Tovolar and Runo, it makes sense that Edgar is just Orzhov bc WotC already stated they weren't doing three color cards for Innistrad. This was more expected when Maro went over how Tovolar was Jund in testing, but ultimately was just Gruul for the arbitrary reason of not wanting three color cards for the two sets. So when the Kraken Horror legend was hinted, while a Sultai would have been nice, it was going to be either Simic or Dimir. So the same with Edgar, while it'd be nice to have him Mardu like he should be, this iteration had to be either Orzhov or Boros, likely the former to make a Mardu "pair" along with Olivia's Rakdos colors.
Edgar Markov is going to keep spiking with this card revealed. I personally like his as an exploration of WB design space, his resiliency, the fact that he isn't just a blind shoo-in for every Vampire deck ever, and him being a serious version of the Dinald duck going back to sleep meme. I expect to see him make waves in Limited, Commander, and if it slows down, Standard. I also like how multiple copies enable each other, using the legend rule to flip each other.
Oh Edgar is the Orzhov Legendary so Odric could be the boros Vampire Legendary? I think there is still a slot in Multicolor for him? I am not sure, tho. He could end up as mono white, too.
Boros is missing its legend, its signpost uncommon, AND we have no mono-white Vampires yet. Lots of slots for Odric.
Flavorful, and obviously belongs in every Edgar Markov commander deck, but still feels slightly underwhelming.
At 4CMC, wouldn't you rather draw something like bloodline keeper nine times out of ten?
The anthem might be on the night side, but it's more evasive, non-legendary, and creates tokens on both sides.
Even other 4CMC lords at uncommon are more intimidating.
Perhaps I'll be proven wrong, but this just feels a bit slow and gimmicky
Flavorful, and obviously belongs in every Edgar Markov commander deck, but still feels slightly underwhelming.
At 4CMC, wouldn't you rather draw something like bloodline keeper nine times out of ten?
The anthem might be on the night side, but it's more evasive, non-legendary, and creates tokens on both sides.
Even other 4CMC lords at uncommon are more intimidating.
Perhaps I'll be proven wrong, but this just feels a bit slow and gimmicky
I mainly see this new Edgar as a resilient guy who's tough to perma-kill and not a lord or a token producer. Over in Modern and up, Bloodline Keeper dies to Bolt all day and dies to Lightning Helix at night.
why the hell did edgar receive no mythic treatment ?
i mean i like this rare, it is a good rare... but it is also edgar markov. to me this is a huge fail.
Well, you see, his mythic slot was already taken by Kaya, who absolutely had to be in the set, because ... idk, she kills some irrelevant ghosts here and there?
Jokes aside, I really don't think anyone was asking for another Kaya card after we just got one in Kaldheim. Edgar clearly should have gotten the mythic spot as he's the groom counterpart to the bride in this set, who got a mythic.
why the hell did edgar receive no mythic treatment ?
i mean i like this rare, it is a good rare... but it is also edgar markov. to me this is a huge fail.
Well, you see, his mythic slot was already taken by Kaya, who absolutely had to be in the set, because ... idk, she kills some irrelevant ghosts here and there?
Jokes aside, I really don't think anyone was asking for another Kaya card after we just got one in Kaldheim. Edgar clearly should have gotten the mythic spot as he's the groom counterpart to the bride in this set, who got a mythic.
Question then is, who replaces him at rare? The Voldaren rep is Florian from Midnight Hunt, so Olivia can slink off at mythic. Anje represents the Falkenraths, and Runo stands for the Stromkirks. Who represents the near-extinct Markovs? It can't be Sorin because he was specifically thrown out before.
edit:apologizes to anyone who saw the original I may have jump to conclusions
Well that’s a tiny bit underwhelming since they didn't loop hole red in I guess we’re still using the original Edgar Markov
but I say this is better than it looks
1. +1/+1 for other vampires so good
2. He’s destroy proof plus can be a blocker for days
3. He makes 3 1/1's then wakes up and those become 2/2 til he goes back to sleep
so Better than the eye meets
Is it though? This keeps coming back over and over. If they kill it, you get 1/1 life-linking vampires for a couple of turns, then you get this guy back and your tokens are all now 2/2's.
....what?
I mean it's a great refiller after a board wipe but I don't know...
'buster
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I like him a lot. You kill him? It will make vampire tokens every turn and then returns. You dont kill it? Deal with a 4/4 at cmc4 in your face that also pump your other vampires. In EDH the Mardu Edgar will love his doppleganger.
Flavorfully is also very resonant. It fits perfectly the "Dracula resting in the coffin after the battle and then rise again" trope.
Yea I had a second thought reread before these post a bit better than he looks
so I edit my post with a new opinion so stick with original Edgar markov and put this bad boy in that deck.
but cool card anyway.
True, but at least at unlike something like Darigaaz Reincarnated it still contributes to the board while "napping".
Would also be better if it made tokens all the time, just like the original Edgar Markov , and yea, make him BGR , as vampires are clearly also red here, and slap on lifelink for himself (as the tokens get lifelink and the entire flavor of a bloodline, he should have lifelink as well if they are his bloodline).
So much flavor fail in this card ...
At least the second art version looks nice, the first is extremely lame.
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i mean i like this rare, it is a good rare... but it is also edgar markov. to me this is a huge fail.
the artwork fails too...
i mean, i dont really know, on the one side this is really a good rare, hard to remove, makes dudes, pumps those dudes if they survive. nice circle. but here i am fully disappointed. gg wizards
Aww, Edgar's white mana is showing!
Boros is missing its legend, its signpost uncommon, AND we have no mono-white Vampires yet. Lots of slots for Odric.
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At 4CMC, wouldn't you rather draw something like bloodline keeper nine times out of ten?
The anthem might be on the night side, but it's more evasive, non-legendary, and creates tokens on both sides.
Even other 4CMC lords at uncommon are more intimidating.
Perhaps I'll be proven wrong, but this just feels a bit slow and gimmicky
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I mainly see this new Edgar as a resilient guy who's tough to perma-kill and not a lord or a token producer. Over in Modern and up, Bloodline Keeper dies to Bolt all day and dies to Lightning Helix at night.
"Do it! Strike me down with all your hatred! Let the 1/1s flow through you!"
Jokes aside, I really don't think anyone was asking for another Kaya card after we just got one in Kaldheim. Edgar clearly should have gotten the mythic spot as he's the groom counterpart to the bride in this set, who got a mythic.
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