Before previews for Dungeons & Dragons: Adventures in the Forgotten Realms officially begin, I thought it would be fun to do another of my Duelist-style teasers where I give tiny hints of things to come. Note that I’m only giving you partial information.
First up, here are some things you can expect:
• a new enchantment subtype
• a card granting -11/-11
• a creature with a death trigger that make an equipment token
• a legendary creature that makes a legendary Hamster creature token
• something only seen previously in Un-sets comes to black border
• an artifact that’s a musical instrument that creates harmony counters
• a card that can keep your opponent from winning the game
• an ability that cares about attacking with a certain amount of power of creatures
• cards that let you decide where the story goes
• a card that creates a legendary creature token named Vecna
Next, here are some rules text that will be showing up on cards:
• “Enchanted permanent is a Treasure artifact”
• “Ward – discard a card.”
• “Exchange your hand and library”
• “Skeletons, Vampires and Zombies”
• “Spend this mana only to cast Dragon spells or activate abilities of Dragons.”
• “for each different mana value among nonland cards in your graveyard.”
• “Then if you have fewer than three cards in hand, draw cards equal to the difference.”
• “Whenever you cast a creature spell that doesn’t share a creature type with a creature you control or a creature card in your graveyard,”
• “You may cast [THIS CREATURE’S NAME] from your graveyard if a creature not named [THIS CREATURE’S NAME] died this turn.”
• “When its power become 20 this way,”
Finally, here are some card type lines in the set:
• Creature – Dwarf Citizen
• Creature – Tiefling Wizard
• Creature – Human Elf Monk
• Creature – Elf Spider
• Creature – Gnome Warlock
• Creature – Halfling Rogue
• Creature – Bird Bear
• Legendary Creature – Dragon Knight
• Legendary Creature – Devil God
• Legendary Creature – Beholder
"a legendary creature that makes a legendary Hamster creature token" Minsc and Boo
"a card that creates a legendary creature token named Vecna" Hand and Eye of Vecna or some combination.
"Legendary Creature – Devil God" We have already seen Tiamat. So its a safe bet that its Asmodeus
"Legendary Creature – Beholder" Most likely Xanathar
OWLBEAR! This means we will be getting the Commander Deck teaser from Gavin soon as well, I imagine. I am also very excited for these in particular, and wonder what they could be:
• “Enchanted permanent is a Treasure artifact” --- Probably a new white removal spell, if I had to guess. I suppose it could be blue, black or red as well, depending on what flavor they're going for.
• “You may cast [THIS CREATURE’S NAME] from your graveyard if a creature not named [THIS CREATURE’S NAME] died this turn.” --- Hopefully this is a cool new Black Demon or something.
• “Exchange your hand and library” --- A new Enter the Infinite type of card?
• “Skeletons, Vampires and Zombies” --- Hopefully a Legendary "Undead" Lord, that finally lets you play these three tribes together in a mono black deck!
So... I am overly excited about the dragon Knight as that seems to suggest to me that Dragonborn may be dragon humanoids in the Same way that orochi were just snakes (unless there is some famous armored dragon from FR that I’m not familiar with). Any opportunity for red to get CMC 1-3 dragons that aren’t super gimmicky is welcome in my book.
the Shell of a “Flail snail” is probably the equipment after it dies
something only seen previously in Un-sets comes to black border
it’s one of the 2
1. Dungeons work like contraptions as a second deck
2. The more likely is dice rolling especially from the “When its power become 20 this way,” teaser that sounds like a D20
“Exchange your hand and library”
wizards I’m gonna be madder than Donald Duck if this is a low cmc because I absolutely forbid another easy instantaneous win with thassa's oracle
Legendary Creature – Beholder
the set booster box art reveals this one its Xanathar
I will not be happy man if Sylgar (the fish) doesn't get a card/token
So we get...
• a new enchantment subtype (currently there are Auras, Cartouches, Curses, Runes, Shards ([[Niko Aris]]), Sagas, and Shrines) so this would have been a much bigger announcement a few years ago before... Runes, Cartouches, and Shards... also Dungeons was already known...
• a card that gives -11/-11... tragic slip makes this meh
• a creature with a death trigger that makes an equipment token... Harvest Hand
• a legendary creature that makes a legendary hamster creature token... so Hamster is a new creature type... but there are 13 cards that create legendary tokens, (two of which are legendary lands, one a legendary enchantment, one a legendary artifat, two legendary planeswalkers, and the other 7 are legendary creatures) so this is really nothing new (Kari Zev, Skyship Raider) (yes this is Minsc and boo... cool... not teaser worthy stuff...
• something only seen previously in Un-Sets... the cheese stands alone and barren Glory... this happens all the time.
• an artifact that's a musical instrument that creates harmony counters... I mean there were two whole cycles of verse counter enchantments in Urza's Saga... not exactly new territory ((https://scryfall.com/search?q=set:usg t:enchantment o:verse&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name))
• a card that can keep your opponent from winning the game... just like Platinum Angel
• an ability that cares about attacking with a certain amount of power of creatures... so a cross between Mosswort Bidge and Windbrisk Heights... I guess that might count as new... but not noteworthy
• cards that let you decide where the story goes... like Outpost Siege
• a card that creates a legendary creature token named Vecna... see legendary creature token comment above... also note that Cackling Counterpart and a host of other cards can make a legendary creature token named ((insert the name of a legendary creature from Magic))
• “Exchange your hand and library” Harness Infinity
• “Skeletons, Vampires and Zombies” undead slayerDeath Baron
• “Spend this mana only to cast Dragon spells or activate abilities of Dragons.” Crucible of the spirit dragon
• “for each different mana value among nonland cards in your graveyard.” Agadeem's AwakeningSeasons past
• “Then if you have fewer than three cards in hand, draw cards equal to the difference.” Damia, sage of stoneskull raid
• “Whenever you cast a creature spell that doesn’t share a creature type with a creature you control or a creature card in your graveyard,” Guardian Project
• “You may cast [THIS CREATURE’S NAME] from your graveyard if a creature not named [THIS CREATURE’S NAME] died this turn.” Nether Traitor
• “When its power become 20 this way,” Figure of DestinyPrimordial Hydra
Am I the only one extremely Meh about this?
Judging from everyone else talking about the type lines only... I guess not.
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(U/B) is :symbu: or :symub: and the same is true for the other 9 hybrid symbols with their two colors in for the last 2 leters of the code. ((2/B) and co are :sym2b:)
Alternatively {UB} or {2B} in [mana] tags are (U/B) or (2/B) T is :symtap: and T will give T in [mana] tags
Surprised there weren't any other hints at possible mechanics in the set. I'm hoping for Level Up. Like, how can it NOT be? It's a perfect flavour win for an RPG-focused set.
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Surprised there weren't any other hints at possible mechanics in the set. I'm hoping for Level Up. Like, how can it NOT be? It's a perfect flavour win for an RPG-focused set.
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IIRC this is taking the slot of the core set, so it was light on mechanical complexity... and Level Up is considered HIGH on mechanical complexity... I think that was mentioned as not in specifically but I can't remember for sure.
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(U/B) is :symbu: or :symub: and the same is true for the other 9 hybrid symbols with their two colors in for the last 2 leters of the code. ((2/B) and co are :sym2b:)
Alternatively {UB} or {2B} in [mana] tags are (U/B) or (2/B) T is :symtap: and T will give T in [mana] tags
maro do you ever remember to read everything already shown before these? You did remember Dungeons was shown right?
• a legendary creature that makes a legendary Hamster creature token
That’s minsc and boo
I'm going to buck the trend and say the new Subtype is Mythals, they are the most powerful enchantments mortals can do in the Forgotten Realms. Example Mythals enchant entire cities with multiple effects, like Mythal of the sea elf city Myth Nentir allows air breathers to breath water. Mythallar, the human version of Mythals, are responsible for allowing the Netherese to rip mountains of the earth, flip them over, and build cities on the bottoms of them while making them fly, or an mass producing special magic items that only work within the range of the Mythallar.
Plus the Dungeons you get with the Bundles are over sized cards like Planes, Phenomenon, and simular none permanent cards. This tells me these don't actually go into your deck. I could be wrong.
I'm always curious about where they go with design space even if I'm fully confidant I'm not buying anything from a set. The Ward cost of discarding a card is interesting for me, and seeing what else they do with Ward costs.
If you think having Kithkin, Halflings, Azra, and Tieflings are trippy, Hobbit will likely be added with the Lord of the Rings set.
Don't think so. Hobbits are called halflings in lotr too. That's actually where it started.
A curious thing i saw is the Dragon Knight. Is that a dragonborn? Will dragonborns be Dragons instead of, idk, Viashinos?
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
With tiefling and halfling becoming creature types then, the kithkin and azra cards will receive an errata?
Azra probably.
Kithkin specially on Lorwyn are their own thing soo for those i would guess no, but it is WotC soo idk. (also Kithkin Errata to Halfling would be huge, honestly, i guess they may want to do it just soo they can later sell reprints with a "fixed" text).
"a legendary creature that makes a legendary Hamster creature token" Minsc and Boo
"a card that creates a legendary creature token named Vecna" Hand and Eye of Vecna or some combination.
"Legendary Creature – Devil God" We have already seen Tiamat. So its a safe bet that its Asmodeus
"Legendary Creature – Beholder" Most likely Xanathar
The Devil God could also be Orcus though! IDK, I just think of Orcus first even though Asmodeus is more powerful.
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Trying to live that Character Fantasy hahaha.
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maro do you ever remember to read everything already shown before these? You did remember Dungeons was shown right?
That’s minsc and boo
"a card that creates a legendary creature token named Vecna" Hand and Eye of Vecna or some combination.
"Legendary Creature – Devil God" We have already seen Tiamat. So its a safe bet that its Asmodeus
"Legendary Creature – Beholder" Most likely Xanathar
• “Enchanted permanent is a Treasure artifact” --- Probably a new white removal spell, if I had to guess. I suppose it could be blue, black or red as well, depending on what flavor they're going for.
• “You may cast [THIS CREATURE’S NAME] from your graveyard if a creature not named [THIS CREATURE’S NAME] died this turn.” --- Hopefully this is a cool new Black Demon or something.
• “Exchange your hand and library” --- A new Enter the Infinite type of card?
• “Skeletons, Vampires and Zombies” --- Hopefully a Legendary "Undead" Lord, that finally lets you play these three tribes together in a mono black deck!
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Does this mean they will errata Radha too?
A secondary deck, maybe?
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Yes, really sounds like it will be these 'Dungeon' cards we keep hearing about.
Magic is
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I think I figured this one out
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Flail_snail
the Shell of a “Flail snail” is probably the equipment after it dies
it’s one of the 2
1. Dungeons work like contraptions as a second deck
2. The more likely is dice rolling especially from the “When its power become 20 this way,” teaser that sounds like a D20
wizards I’m gonna be madder than Donald Duck if this is a low cmc because I absolutely forbid another easy instantaneous win with thassa's oracle
the set booster box art reveals this one its Xanathar
I will not be happy man if Sylgar (the fish) doesn't get a card/token
• a new enchantment subtype (currently there are Auras, Cartouches, Curses, Runes, Shards ([[Niko Aris]]), Sagas, and Shrines) so this would have been a much bigger announcement a few years ago before... Runes, Cartouches, and Shards... also Dungeons was already known...
• a card that gives -11/-11... tragic slip makes this meh
• a creature with a death trigger that makes an equipment token... Harvest Hand
• a legendary creature that makes a legendary hamster creature token... so Hamster is a new creature type... but there are 13 cards that create legendary tokens, (two of which are legendary lands, one a legendary enchantment, one a legendary artifat, two legendary planeswalkers, and the other 7 are legendary creatures) so this is really nothing new (Kari Zev, Skyship Raider) (yes this is Minsc and boo... cool... not teaser worthy stuff...
• something only seen previously in Un-Sets... the cheese stands alone and barren Glory... this happens all the time.
• an artifact that's a musical instrument that creates harmony counters... I mean there were two whole cycles of verse counter enchantments in Urza's Saga... not exactly new territory ((https://scryfall.com/search?q=set:usg t:enchantment o:verse&unique=cards&as=grid&order=name))
• a card that can keep your opponent from winning the game... just like Platinum Angel
• an ability that cares about attacking with a certain amount of power of creatures... so a cross between Mosswort Bidge and Windbrisk Heights... I guess that might count as new... but not noteworthy
• cards that let you decide where the story goes... like Outpost Siege
• a card that creates a legendary creature token named Vecna... see legendary creature token comment above... also note that Cackling Counterpart and a host of other cards can make a legendary creature token named ((insert the name of a legendary creature from Magic))
• “Exchange your hand and library” Harness Infinity
• “Skeletons, Vampires and Zombies” undead slayer Death Baron
• “Spend this mana only to cast Dragon spells or activate abilities of Dragons.” Crucible of the spirit dragon
• “for each different mana value among nonland cards in your graveyard.” Agadeem's Awakening Seasons past
• “Then if you have fewer than three cards in hand, draw cards equal to the difference.” Damia, sage of stone skull raid
• “Whenever you cast a creature spell that doesn’t share a creature type with a creature you control or a creature card in your graveyard,” Guardian Project
• “You may cast [THIS CREATURE’S NAME] from your graveyard if a creature not named [THIS CREATURE’S NAME] died this turn.” Nether Traitor
• “When its power become 20 this way,” Figure of Destiny Primordial Hydra
Am I the only one extremely Meh about this?
Judging from everyone else talking about the type lines only... I guess not.
Alternatively {UB} or {2B} in [mana] tags are (U/B) or (2/B)
T is :symtap: and T will give T in [mana] tags
'buster
HR Analyst. Gamer. Activist | Fearless, and forthright | Aggro-control is a mindset.
Elspeth and Jhoira rock my world.
'buster
HR Analyst. Gamer. Activist | Fearless, and forthright | Aggro-control is a mindset.
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Alternatively {UB} or {2B} in [mana] tags are (U/B) or (2/B)
T is :symtap: and T will give T in [mana] tags
If you think having Kithkin, Halflings, Azra, and Tieflings are trippy, Hobbit will likely be added with the Lord of the Rings set.
I'm going to buck the trend and say the new Subtype is Mythals, they are the most powerful enchantments mortals can do in the Forgotten Realms. Example Mythals enchant entire cities with multiple effects, like Mythal of the sea elf city Myth Nentir allows air breathers to breath water. Mythallar, the human version of Mythals, are responsible for allowing the Netherese to rip mountains of the earth, flip them over, and build cities on the bottoms of them while making them fly, or an mass producing special magic items that only work within the range of the Mythallar.
Plus the Dungeons you get with the Bundles are over sized cards like Planes, Phenomenon, and simular none permanent cards. This tells me these don't actually go into your deck. I could be wrong.
Don't think so. Hobbits are called halflings in lotr too. That's actually where it started.
A curious thing i saw is the Dragon Knight. Is that a dragonborn? Will dragonborns be Dragons instead of, idk, Viashinos?
Azra probably.
Kithkin specially on Lorwyn are their own thing soo for those i would guess no, but it is WotC soo idk. (also Kithkin Errata to Halfling would be huge, honestly, i guess they may want to do it just soo they can later sell reprints with a "fixed" text).
https://forgottenrealms.fandom.com/wiki/Arkhan
it Might be Arkhan
Sea monsters needed this, not dragons
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
The Devil God could also be Orcus though! IDK, I just think of Orcus first even though Asmodeus is more powerful.