Thrasta, Tempest's Roar: strong if you are able to "ramp" 3 spells with low CMC .
Good in midrange Grull builds with some ramp.
This card is less broken than it may seem at a first glance.
Unmarked Grave: is a strong tutor because with two mana puts the card you need into your graveyard, the zone hit by a lot of cards pre and post sideboard. Still, it is strong because it is a tutor with a workable CMC. It has more targets than Reanimate, but (luckily) it is balanced by its CMC. I am curious to see what combination will born.
Profane Tutor: strong when seen at turn 2 because it resolves on turn 4, when combo has to win in order to avoid some hate.
The only Legacy deck I ever saw with Unmask is Dredge
Well you never faced Reanimator then.
Unmask can also be played in Buried Alive decks, so overall it's a support card for black combo shells that has a legit purpose in a format with Daze, FoW and FoN in every other game you play, if not Chalice or Thalia.
So I could see this played in a Vengevine shell or something...
In Modern, the pressure isn't that high. Gotta wait and see what black combos will rise with MH2. We already have a couple other black combo cards previewed...
Also, why is this an incarnation? It doesn't have a graveyard effect.
It has the name of an Incarnation, it fits the flavor. I don't recall Maro (or any dev) mention Incarnations have to be mechanically related to graveyards, even though they've been historically.
This set is gonna be wonderful.
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Pioneer - A bunch of stuff Modern - Humans Legacy - Grixis Phoenix / Death & Taxes
The only Legacy deck I ever saw with Unmask is Dredge
Well you never faced Reanimator then.
Unmask can also be played in Buried Alive decks, so overall it's a support card for black combo shells that has a legit purpose in a format with Daze, FoW and FoN in every other game you play, if not Chalice or Thalia.
So I could see this played in a Vengevine shell or something...
In Modern, the pressure isn't that high. Gotta wait and see what black combos will rise with MH2. We already have a couple other black combo cards previewed...
Huh, I'll check Reanimator sideboards again. Last time I checked, they had stuff like Show and Tell (blue variants), Stronghold Gambit (red variants), and random Hexproof granters there.
Honestly, Unmarked Grave is enough to make Hulk Footsteps a dangerous contender with a bannable Turn 3 combo. As a result, I predict Heliod Ballista to lose its metagame dominance really fast because it's a slower combo deck. (They could go back to Scavenging Ooze - Sanctum Prelate is generally not fast enough to hose Hulk Footsteps.)
Profane Tutor will also give black-based combo decks a shot in the arm.
Krark's Thumb(which will spike to like almost $70 during hype stock)
Oh my god will you stop making these dumb claims, Krark’s Thumb is not going to spike to $70 at any point because of this card
I can’t think of a single time when you’ve been right about a card spiking crazily because of a preview, even though you say the same things about several different cards during every spoiler season.
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The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
Krark's Thumb(which will spike to like almost $70 during hype stock)
Oh my god will you stop making these dumb claims, Krark’s Thumb is not going to spike to $70 at any point because of this card
I can’t think of a single time when you’ve been right about a card spiking crazily because of a preview, even though you say the same things about several different cards during every spoiler season.
While $70 is pretty ridiculous, the price on Krark's Thumb has actually moved significantly in the last couple days and increased quite a bit when Krark, the Thumbless was previewed.
Oh my god will you stop making these dumb claims, Krark’s Thumb is not going to spike to $70 at any point because of this card
I can’t think of a single time when you’ve been right about a card spiking crazily because of a preview, even though you say the same things about several different cards during every spoiler season.
$70 might be a bit much, but the card is likely to go up again, we see this constantly with old cards that become relevant due to new cards. Thumb spiked due to Krark himself, Savra jumped $20+ thanks to Strixhaven, and it happens all of the time with other cards. Wouldn't surprise me if Krark's Thumb went to $40+.
Oh my god will you stop making these dumb claims, Krark’s Thumb is not going to spike to $70 at any point because of this card
I can’t think of a single time when you’ve been right about a card spiking crazily because of a preview, even though you say the same things about several different cards during every spoiler season.
$70 might be a bit much, but the card is likely to go up again, we see this constantly with old cards that become relevant due to new cards. Thumb spiked due to Krark himself, Savra jumped $20+ thanks to Strixhaven, and it happens all of the time with other cards. Wouldn't surprise me if Krark's Thumb went to $40+.
I'm not contesting that Krark's Thumb hasn't gone up, or that spikes don't happen (just look at Chain of Smog for crying out loud), but does this dude actually think about the wild numbers that he throws out before he posts them?
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
Oh my god will you stop making these dumb claims, Krark’s Thumb is not going to spike to $70 at any point because of this card
I can’t think of a single time when you’ve been right about a card spiking crazily because of a preview, even though you say the same things about several different cards during every spoiler season.
$70 might be a bit much, but the card is likely to go up again, we see this constantly with old cards that become relevant due to new cards. Thumb spiked due to Krark himself, Savra jumped $20+ thanks to Strixhaven, and it happens all of the time with other cards. Wouldn't surprise me if Krark's Thumb went to $40+.
I'm not contesting that Krark's Thumb hasn't gone up, or that spikes don't happen (just look at Chain of Smog for crying out loud), but does this dude actually think about the wild numbers that he throws out before he posts them?
He predicted that Thrumming Stone would spike because of Dragon's Approach, which it did, to be fair, but that's low hanging fruit.
I'd just really like it if he could post smart things while talking to others like a know-it-all on these forums.
Relax dude, you're overreacting about nothing. If somebody posts something you don't like on a forum, just ignore it. Somebody predicted a card would spike in value and it didn't? Who the **** cares.
Edit: I just saw this is my post 666 here. Hail Satan.
Oh my god will you stop making these dumb claims, Krark’s Thumb is not going to spike to $70 at any point because of this card
I can’t think of a single time when you’ve been right about a card spiking crazily because of a preview, even though you say the same things about several different cards during every spoiler season.
$70 might be a bit much, but the card is likely to go up again, we see this constantly with old cards that become relevant due to new cards. Thumb spiked due to Krark himself, Savra jumped $20+ thanks to Strixhaven, and it happens all of the time with other cards. Wouldn't surprise me if Krark's Thumb went to $40+.
I'm not contesting that Krark's Thumb hasn't gone up, or that spikes don't happen (just look at Chain of Smog for crying out loud), but does this dude actually think about the wild numbers that he throws out before he posts them?
He predicted that Thrumming Stone would spike because of Dragon's Approach, which it did, to be fair, but that's low hanging fruit.
I'd just really like it if he could post smart things while talking to others like a know-it-all on these forums.
if you hate or refuse to believe my card stock predictions stop looking at them or set me to ignore nobody cares like Simto said.
The numbers are the ones that at are to high I’m just saying it will cause spikes knowing trends of how cards spike in sets
and Clearly you failed to look at what I said, for the brigi one when I said $100 I wasn't literal
All I meant was it would get a hype stock knowing the trend on several cards. As a matter of fact all of those predictions are based of the same thing of what happen when Chain of Smog spiked when professor onyx was revealed but with different cards
And for 2 other examples counterspell spiked like a rocket when it was announced it’s gonna be modern legal and Creakwood Liege from withblooms Pest tokens
And for 2 other examples counterspell spiked like a rocket when it was announced it’s gonna be modern legal and Creakwood Liege from withblooms Pest tokens
To be fair Counterspell has no reason to go up in price if it's getting reprinted. It will go back down when copies start to circulate from MH2.
And for 2 other examples counterspell spiked like a rocket when it was announced it’s gonna be modern legal and Creakwood Liege from withblooms Pest tokens
To be fair Counterspell has no reason to go up in price if it's getting reprinted. It will go back down when copies start to circulate from MH2.
I can understand why the more sort after variations could spike in price (Like the Japanese Mystic Archive version that costs a ******* *****load).
But I mean, the regular versions have been printed throughout Magic's history. There's absolutely zero reason for it to start spiking other than people going crazy with speculation. It's getting worse and worse all the time and it's ******* ridiculous.
And for 2 other examples counterspell spiked like a rocket when it was announced it’s gonna be modern legal and Creakwood Liege from withblooms Pest tokens
To be fair Counterspell has no reason to go up in price if it's getting reprinted. It will go back down when copies start to circulate from MH2.
From my testing with Yusri, Fortune's Flame in Modern, he does not need Krark's Thumb (or Personal Sanctuary) to be good. In fact, the only support he got in UR Prowess was that he was surrounded by cheap removal magnets (and a somewhat less painful mana base). Yusri is basically two flying Bobs in a UR trenchcoat (hint: you want to flip 5 coins per attack most of the time because you're simply that desperate to close out the game). Yes, I believe he'll see play in Modern - it's quickly game over if he's the only guy to sneak through their removal wall.
So the only markets I believe will support a Krark's Thumb price raise are the EDH and casual markets.
From my testing with Yusri, Fortune's Flame in Modern, he does not need Krark's Thumb (or Personal Sanctuary) to be good. In fact, the only support he got in UR Prowess was that he was surrounded by cheap removal magnets (and a somewhat less painful mana base). Yusri is basically two flying Bobs in a UR trenchcoat (hint: you want to flip 5 coins per attack most of the time because you're simply that desperate to close out the game). Yes, I believe he'll see play in Modern - it's quickly game over if he's the only guy to sneak through their removal wall.
So the only markets I believe will support a Krark's Thumb price raise are the EDH and casual markets.
From my testing with Yusri, Fortune's Flame in Modern, he does not need Krark's Thumb (or Personal Sanctuary) to be good. In fact, the only support he got in UR Prowess was that he was surrounded by cheap removal magnets (and a somewhat less painful mana base). Yusri is basically two flying Bobs in a UR trenchcoat (hint: you want to flip 5 coins per attack most of the time because you're simply that desperate to close out the game). Yes, I believe he'll see play in Modern - it's quickly game over if he's the only guy to sneak through their removal wall.
So the only markets I believe will support a Krark's Thumb price raise are the EDH and casual markets.
I doubt the competitiveness of Krark's Thumb in EDH will change much either. Krark's Thumb is not for winning games, it's for flipping all the coins.
From my testing with Yusri, Fortune's Flame in Modern, he does not need Krark's Thumb (or Personal Sanctuary) to be good. In fact, the only support he got in UR Prowess was that he was surrounded by cheap removal magnets (and a somewhat less painful mana base). Yusri is basically two flying Bobs in a UR trenchcoat (hint: you want to flip 5 coins per attack most of the time because you're simply that desperate to close out the game). Yes, I believe he'll see play in Modern - it's quickly game over if he's the only guy to sneak through their removal wall.
So the only markets I believe will support a Krark's Thumb price raise are the EDH and casual markets.
I doubt the competitiveness of Krark's Thumb in EDH will change much either. Krark's Thumb is not for winning games, it's for flipping all the coins.
agreed all it does is it just make it 23% rather than 3% of getting the one turn omniscience
Relax dude, you're overreacting about nothing. If somebody posts something you don't like on a forum, just ignore it. Somebody predicted a card would spike in value and it didn't? Who the **** cares.
Edit: I just saw this is my post 666 here. Hail Satan.
If I'm posting something that you don't like on a forum, then why aren't you ignoring it?
if you hate or refuse to believe my card stock predictions stop looking at them or set me to ignore nobody cares like Simto said.
The numbers are the ones that at are to high I’m just saying it will cause spikes knowing trends of how cards spike in sets
and Clearly you failed to look at what I said, for the brigi one when I said $100 I wasn't literal
All I meant was it would get a hype stock knowing the trend on several cards. As a matter of fact all of those predictions are based of the same thing of what happen when Chain of Smog spiked when professor onyx was revealed but with different cards
And for 2 other examples counterspell spiked like a rocket when it was announced it’s gonna be modern legal and Creakwood Liege from withblooms Pest tokens
I don't inherently have a problem with predicting card spikes, but I'm not really seeing any rational explanation behind your predictions aside from "these cards synergize well." You're not obligated to explain your rationale, but doing so is highly encouraged. For instance, what makes Reef Worm such an EDH staple that its price would have exploded if it hadn't been reprinted in the Quandrix precon?
I know you weren't being literal about Birgi being $100, seeing as how you stated that last time. But then why throw out such a ludicrous number just to exaggeratedly illustrate a point?
Counterspell isn't a good example. Predicting that Counterspell would spike if introduced into Modern is like predicting that Sensei's Divining Top would plummet if it was banned in EDH. This is something that is so rudimentary and obvious that predicting it isn't exactly a mental feat.
Now, if you had predicted the Creakwood Liege spike, then I would have been impressed.
I've observed you to have this attitude whenever you address basically anyone on these forums. You seem to be quite condescending whenever you correct someone, or explain something to someone, or inform them of something they didn't know before, and I really don't think that type of behavior should be encouraged.
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
Managed to get some testing in with Modern Grief-Ephemerate Deadguy Ale - yes, the full Griefemerate Turns 1-2 combo actually still led to a game loss once. It was against Green Tron, which got its early business shredded but still won despite the hand hate.
On a related note, the Griefemerate combo looks a lot worse on the draw than on the play, as your opponent often has 1 mana up for removal and will off Grief with Ephemerate on the stack.
It's possible that we keep building Griefemerate decks wrong, but I don't think Griefemerate will get banned in Modern.
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Good in midrange Grull builds with some ramp.
This card is less broken than it may seem at a first glance.
Unmarked Grave: is a strong tutor because with two mana puts the card you need into your graveyard, the zone hit by a lot of cards pre and post sideboard. Still, it is strong because it is a tutor with a workable CMC. It has more targets than Reanimate, but (luckily) it is balanced by its CMC. I am curious to see what combination will born.
Profane Tutor: strong when seen at turn 2 because it resolves on turn 4, when combo has to win in order to avoid some hate.
Yusri, Fortune's Flame+Krark's Thumb
Grief is basically the creature version of Unmask. Don't understimate the fact that can feed Ichorid from the graveyard.
Well you never faced Reanimator then.
Unmask can also be played in Buried Alive decks, so overall it's a support card for black combo shells that has a legit purpose in a format with Daze, FoW and FoN in every other game you play, if not Chalice or Thalia.
So I could see this played in a Vengevine shell or something...
In Modern, the pressure isn't that high. Gotta wait and see what black combos will rise with MH2. We already have a couple other black combo cards previewed...
It has the name of an Incarnation, it fits the flavor. I don't recall Maro (or any dev) mention Incarnations have to be mechanically related to graveyards, even though they've been historically.
This set is gonna be wonderful.
Huh, I'll check Reanimator sideboards again. Last time I checked, they had stuff like Show and Tell (blue variants), Stronghold Gambit (red variants), and random Hexproof granters there.
Honestly, Unmarked Grave is enough to make Hulk Footsteps a dangerous contender with a bannable Turn 3 combo. As a result, I predict Heliod Ballista to lose its metagame dominance really fast because it's a slower combo deck. (They could go back to Scavenging Ooze - Sanctum Prelate is generally not fast enough to hose Hulk Footsteps.)
Profane Tutor will also give black-based combo decks a shot in the arm.
Oh my god will you stop making these dumb claims, Krark’s Thumb is not going to spike to $70 at any point because of this card
I can’t think of a single time when you’ve been right about a card spiking crazily because of a preview, even though you say the same things about several different cards during every spoiler season.
While $70 is pretty ridiculous, the price on Krark's Thumb has actually moved significantly in the last couple days and increased quite a bit when Krark, the Thumbless was previewed.
$70 might be a bit much, but the card is likely to go up again, we see this constantly with old cards that become relevant due to new cards. Thumb spiked due to Krark himself, Savra jumped $20+ thanks to Strixhaven, and it happens all of the time with other cards. Wouldn't surprise me if Krark's Thumb went to $40+.
I'm not contesting that Krark's Thumb hasn't gone up, or that spikes don't happen (just look at Chain of Smog for crying out loud), but does this dude actually think about the wild numbers that he throws out before he posts them?
He said that Grinning Ignus would cause Birgi, God of Storytelling to spike to $100.
He said that Reef Worm would have "spiked like a rocket" if it hadn't been reprinted in a Strixhaven Commander deck.
He said that Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger would spike purely because of Strict Proctor.
He predicted that Thrumming Stone would spike because of Dragon's Approach, which it did, to be fair, but that's low hanging fruit.
I'd just really like it if he could post smart things while talking to others like a know-it-all on these forums.
Relax dude, you're overreacting about nothing. If somebody posts something you don't like on a forum, just ignore it. Somebody predicted a card would spike in value and it didn't? Who the **** cares.
Edit: I just saw this is my post 666 here. Hail Satan.
if you hate or refuse to believe my card stock predictions stop looking at them or set me to ignore nobody cares like Simto said.
The numbers are the ones that at are to high I’m just saying it will cause spikes knowing trends of how cards spike in sets
and Clearly you failed to look at what I said, for the brigi one when I said $100 I wasn't literal
All I meant was it would get a hype stock knowing the trend on several cards. As a matter of fact all of those predictions are based of the same thing of what happen when Chain of Smog spiked when professor onyx was revealed but with different cards
And for 2 other examples counterspell spiked like a rocket when it was announced it’s gonna be modern legal and Creakwood Liege from withblooms Pest tokens
To be fair Counterspell has no reason to go up in price if it's getting reprinted. It will go back down when copies start to circulate from MH2.
I can understand why the more sort after variations could spike in price (Like the Japanese Mystic Archive version that costs a ******* *****load).
But I mean, the regular versions have been printed throughout Magic's history. There's absolutely zero reason for it to start spiking other than people going crazy with speculation. It's getting worse and worse all the time and it's ******* ridiculous.
yep thats hype stock for ya.
So the only markets I believe will support a Krark's Thumb price raise are the EDH and casual markets.
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In the meantime, I'm not sure which win con is the best for Modern Unmarked Grave Hulk Footsteps. The old standby Body Double + Reveillark + Mogg Fanatic + Viscera Seer is painfully graveyard hate-weak and clogs your deck with prohibitively expensive creatures. The Body Double + Vesperlark + Carrion Feeder + Heart-Piercer Manticore plan is similarly graveyard hate-weak and is more vulnerable to removal. The Body Double + Vesperlark + Carrion Feeder + Thassa's Oracle + Leveler version gives you an alt win con, but Leveler is highly situational. Replace Leveler with Inverter of Truth + Remorseful Cleric and your alt win con looks better and Inverter can actually be played in some fair match-ups, but the loss of deck space can hurt you. At least Carrion Feeder lets you dodge Unmoored Ego better and is better against R(/X) Prowess's burn pings.
that’s pretty cool if you didn’t need the thumb so much to make him very good but honestly I knew every correct guess draws a card.
I doubt the competitiveness of Krark's Thumb in EDH will change much either. Krark's Thumb is not for winning games, it's for flipping all the coins.
agreed all it does is it just make it 23% rather than 3% of getting the one turn omniscience
And on top of that I think yusri is just better in the 98 of Zndrsplt, Eye of Wisdom and Okaun, Eye of Chaos
And Krark's Thumb (English, NM) has reached €10 on Cardmarket, so, yeah, it's gone up a bit.
If I'm posting something that you don't like on a forum, then why aren't you ignoring it?
I don't inherently have a problem with predicting card spikes, but I'm not really seeing any rational explanation behind your predictions aside from "these cards synergize well." You're not obligated to explain your rationale, but doing so is highly encouraged. For instance, what makes Reef Worm such an EDH staple that its price would have exploded if it hadn't been reprinted in the Quandrix precon?
I know you weren't being literal about Birgi being $100, seeing as how you stated that last time. But then why throw out such a ludicrous number just to exaggeratedly illustrate a point?
Counterspell isn't a good example. Predicting that Counterspell would spike if introduced into Modern is like predicting that Sensei's Divining Top would plummet if it was banned in EDH. This is something that is so rudimentary and obvious that predicting it isn't exactly a mental feat.
Now, if you had predicted the Creakwood Liege spike, then I would have been impressed.
Also, as an aside...
I've observed you to have this attitude whenever you address basically anyone on these forums. You seem to be quite condescending whenever you correct someone, or explain something to someone, or inform them of something they didn't know before, and I really don't think that type of behavior should be encouraged.
On a related note, the Griefemerate combo looks a lot worse on the draw than on the play, as your opponent often has 1 mana up for removal and will off Grief with Ephemerate on the stack.
It's possible that we keep building Griefemerate decks wrong, but I don't think Griefemerate will get banned in Modern.