This forum gets more and more silly by the thread. I need to stop wasting my life.
I'm not sure what you're implying, except perhaps to make a point about political correctness that isn't remotely germane here. Did you read the original comment that was being responded to? If so, then you know there's ample context for what was said.
I'm disappointed in how quickly this turned into a fight that's not even about the deck.
What better place to have a conversation about the relative strengths and weaknesses of white in EDH than in relation to a new deck that may prove to be a sea change for it?
Not much talk about Magic in this thread though, sooooo....
Having participated in this thread at pretty much every turn, and not talking about anything besides Magic, I feel it's safe to say you probably didn't read most (or any) of it.
Now if for some reason you're as appalled as I am that one person took it as an opportunity to engage in vicious personal attacks instead of talking about Magic, perhaps you shouldn't upvote every one of their posts.
You know, in my play group, we wouldn't bother playing wrath, doomskar or other basic wrath effects.
--- I'll stop you right here. As you admit, that is your meta, but your meta is not equal to what is a card potential in a vacuum and how can be used in other EDH playgroups worldwide. My personal experience contradicts yours for example. And that confirm what I'm saying : that whoever says that black mass removals are always useless, it's only because have a limited game experience playing with the same cards and against the same people and judging a card in base of that bias.
I would be willing to concede it is just my meta (consisting of 9 players who 3 of which play in different groups - so actually about a baker's dozen of unique minds) - but look at decks on the command zone (where they literally play commander for a living) - and I think you will see this is a natural progression experienced in commander as a whole. The introduction of non-creature cards in the command zone, heck - we will literally have sorceries in the command zone in a week, the proliferation of etb value, indestructible and other just value engines - along with cards that allow you to ignore a board wipe (teferi's protection), has reduced the potency of those cards. Furthermore, board wipes - when they do work - tend to just make people bored as they spend 2 or 3 turns to rebuild. It is the same line of thinking as why armageddon has been generally frowned upon in commander - it tends to set people back equally and just adds 30 minutes of low interaction to the game, which makes people pull out their phones, go for a cigarette - or otherwise lose an investment in the game. So, yes, I don't think that white's ownership of boardwipes does much to establish it as a color people want to play in commander.
Not much talk about Magic in this thread though, sooooo....
No kidding, and it is the same people, every, single, time. When context is out the window, people will find a reason to rage on this forum for no reason. Brings a good laugh every time I see it though.
Not much talk about Magic in this thread though, sooooo....
No kidding, and it is the same people, every, single, time. When context is out the window, people will find a reason to rage on this forum for no reason. Brings a good laugh every time I see it though.
I honestly don't recall ever reading a post from @NeedAMedic before yesterday.
You literally said “you people.” Don’t try to wriggle out of being a jerk. We can all read here.
lol can't say "you people" anymore?
This forum gets more and more silly by the thread. I need to stop wasting my life.
PREACH. World's biggest wind factory....quite depressing what it's turned into. It just keeps getting worse.
You should pay closer attention. I was responding to a specific claim by NeedAMedic that when he insulted everyone else on this forum he was including himself. He lied to try to make himself look better.
You literally said “you people.” Don’t try to wriggle out of being a jerk. We can all read here.
lol can't say "you people" anymore?
This forum gets more and more silly by the thread. I need to stop wasting my life.
PREACH. World's biggest wind factory....quite depressing what it's turned into. It just keeps getting worse.
You should pay closer attention. I was responding to a specific claim by NeedAMedic that when he insulted everyone else on this forum he was including himself. He lied to try to make himself look better.
Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.
Reading comprehension might allow you to read the word "everyone."
Weird that you think that me saying that everyone has a personality disorder is insulting. Do you have some sort of prejudice against people with personality disorders?
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Ah yes, now my attacks are "vicious" according to some former mercenary. Asymetrical warfare and political genocide are apparently bragging points, but calling them them what they are is vicious.
Again, Flossy, if you didn't get offended for a living, maybe anybody would take your decision to be insulted seriously.
Ah yes, now my attacks are "vicious" according to some former mercenary. Asymetrical warfare and political genocide are apparently bragging points, but calling them them what they are is vicious.
Again, Flossy, if you didn't get offended for a living, maybe anybody would take your decision to be insulted seriously.
I actually make my living teaching middle schoolers basic English. All in a day's work.
What do you think of the white cards in the new Silverquill deck? They seem quite strong.
Ah yes, now my attacks are "vicious" according to some former mercenary. Asymetrical warfare and political genocide are apparently bragging points, but calling them them what they are is vicious.
Again, Flossy, if you didn't get offended for a living, maybe anybody would take your decision to be insulted seriously.
I actually make my living teaching middle schoolers basic English. All in a day's work.
So you grade each others' homework?
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Not much talk about Magic in this thread though, sooooo....
No kidding, and it is the same people, every, single, time. When context is out the window, people will find a reason to rage on this forum for no reason. Brings a good laugh every time I see it though.
And yet the mods never seem to get them. I've been flagged multiple times for actually complaining about it over the past couple of years when this site really went down hill. I'd make comments like, can we cut the bull and get back on topic? And then I'd get flagged for participating in the "fight". And yet I would wager the people who posted horrible nonsensical fights for pages upon pages got the same punishment as me; a slap on the wrist, because they are STILL here.
It is one of the most annoying things about this site. I've been here for a long time, and I hate to sound like some kind of old-timer, but it did use to be a better place.
It only makes me mad because actual "good" discussion gets lost in the Hate and bull*****, and then the threads get locked. It is kind of funny, I agree, because people really try to act like they are Arcanis the Omnipotent when they are just someone behind a computer screen talking about a card game.
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You literally said “you people.” Don’t try to wriggle out of being a jerk. We can all read here.
I also never claimed that I'm not being a jerk. You people get so touchy about semantics.
You’re a liar and you got called out for it. The fact that you persist is further proof that you’re probably the only one here with a personality disorder.
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You literally said “you people.” Don’t try to wriggle out of being a jerk. We can all read here.
I also never claimed that I'm not being a jerk. You people get so touchy about semantics.
You’re a liar and you got called out for it. The fact that you persist is further proof that you’re probably the only one here with a personality disorder.
Please, feel free to show me the lie then. You sound like you're taking this all very personally. Maybe you should just mute me if you're not mature enough to avoid being triggered.
Please, feel free to show me the lie then. You sound like you're taking this all very personally. Maybe you should just mute me if you're not mature enough to avoid being triggered.
Does everyone on this forum have some sort of personality disorder or something? It is like always so all or nothing with you people.
I think it's a little strange how you take issue with other people's ability to read, argue about semantics, and then pretend like inference isn't a thing.
Please, feel free to show me the lie then. You sound like you're taking this all very personally. Maybe you should just mute me if you're not mature enough to avoid being triggered.
Does everyone on this forum have some sort of personality disorder or something? It is like always so all or nothing with you people.
I think it's a little strange how you take issue with other people's ability to read, argue about semantics, and then pretend like inference isn't a thing.
Hmm, and where am I pretending that inference isn't a thing? Again, if you're trying this hard to feel like you're being attacked, that's on you. Some people need to always feel like they are the victim. Not a week goes by that you specifically, Beavis, are not crying about something or another being offensive.
Your inference is worth precisely its weight in gold. Don't hurt yourself trying to get it on the scale now.
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You insulted every single other person on this forum, then when I called you out for it you tried to pretend that you were including yourself in the insult despite using the phrase “you people” when making the insult, which inherently excludes yourself from the insult.
Why do you behave this way?
You sound like you're taking this all very personally. Maybe you should just mute me if you're not mature enough to avoid being triggered.
Whoa, it’s the buzz word, guys! He’s so cool when throws around buzz words, right guys?
You insulted every single other person on this forum, then when I called you out for it you tried to pretend that you were including yourself in the insult despite using the phrase “you people” when making the insult, which inherently excludes yourself from the insult.
Why do you behave this way?
You sound like you're taking this all very personally. Maybe you should just mute me if you're not mature enough to avoid being triggered.
Whoa, it’s the buzz word, guys! He’s so cool when throws around buzz words, right guys?
so childish. Jesus Christ.
So you feel insulted by that I believe that everyone on this site has a personality disorder? Wow, that's pretty insulting to the vast majority of people with personality disorders who don't use this site.
And I used "you people" when referencing the all or nothing nature of you people. Is having an all or nothing view that insulting to you?
It's really not a buzzword, kid. You're throwing a fit because you need to feel like a victim. You're insulted because the idea that someone may view you as mentally ill does not support your unwarranted view that mentally ill people are inferior to you. Grow up, boy
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You're pretending that you didn't mean something that you clearly did, simply because you used different, less explicit words. That's not how communication in general works, but it is how semantic argumentation works. What's your academic area of expertise?
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You're pretending that you didn't mean something that you clearly did, simply because you used different, less explicit words. That's not how communication in general works, but it is how semantic argumentation works. What's your academic area of expertise?
And what are you saying I meant with what? For being so critical of what I specifically said,, you sure seem to be pretty vague about why you've chosen to become offended by it.
You teach middle school English. You're not an expert at anything, besides maybe telling Susie to stop chewing gum.
I'm an aerospace engineer for what it's worth. Don't see how it's relevant.
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Asked, answered, and presented in evidence as fact. I'm not going to continue humoring your logical fallacies with these circular arguments, amigo.
It's relevant because one of us has been educated to impart both linguistic knowledge and communication skills to others, and the other is an aerospace engineer whose best argument continues to be a barrage of ad hominems. Suffice it to say, I'm not moved by your critique of my reading skills.
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Exactly
Not much talk about Magic in this thread though, sooooo....
I'm not sure what you're implying, except perhaps to make a point about political correctness that isn't remotely germane here. Did you read the original comment that was being responded to? If so, then you know there's ample context for what was said.
What better place to have a conversation about the relative strengths and weaknesses of white in EDH than in relation to a new deck that may prove to be a sea change for it?
Having participated in this thread at pretty much every turn, and not talking about anything besides Magic, I feel it's safe to say you probably didn't read most (or any) of it.
Now if for some reason you're as appalled as I am that one person took it as an opportunity to engage in vicious personal attacks instead of talking about Magic, perhaps you shouldn't upvote every one of their posts.
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I would be willing to concede it is just my meta (consisting of 9 players who 3 of which play in different groups - so actually about a baker's dozen of unique minds) - but look at decks on the command zone (where they literally play commander for a living) - and I think you will see this is a natural progression experienced in commander as a whole. The introduction of non-creature cards in the command zone, heck - we will literally have sorceries in the command zone in a week, the proliferation of etb value, indestructible and other just value engines - along with cards that allow you to ignore a board wipe (teferi's protection), has reduced the potency of those cards. Furthermore, board wipes - when they do work - tend to just make people bored as they spend 2 or 3 turns to rebuild. It is the same line of thinking as why armageddon has been generally frowned upon in commander - it tends to set people back equally and just adds 30 minutes of low interaction to the game, which makes people pull out their phones, go for a cigarette - or otherwise lose an investment in the game. So, yes, I don't think that white's ownership of boardwipes does much to establish it as a color people want to play in commander.
No kidding, and it is the same people, every, single, time. When context is out the window, people will find a reason to rage on this forum for no reason. Brings a good laugh every time I see it though.
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I honestly don't recall ever reading a post from @NeedAMedic before yesterday.
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You should pay closer attention. I was responding to a specific claim by NeedAMedic that when he insulted everyone else on this forum he was including himself. He lied to try to make himself look better.
Reading comprehension is a wonderful thing.
I also never claimed that I'm not being a jerk. You people get so touchy about semantics.
Reading comprehension might allow you to read the word "everyone."
Weird that you think that me saying that everyone has a personality disorder is insulting. Do you have some sort of prejudice against people with personality disorders?
Again, Flossy, if you didn't get offended for a living, maybe anybody would take your decision to be insulted seriously.
I actually make my living teaching middle schoolers basic English. All in a day's work.
What do you think of the white cards in the new Silverquill deck? They seem quite strong.
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So you grade each others' homework?
That would be a massive waste of all the tax payer money that went into my education, I think.
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Most educational spending is wasted. Have you ever met a human?
And yet the mods never seem to get them. I've been flagged multiple times for actually complaining about it over the past couple of years when this site really went down hill. I'd make comments like, can we cut the bull and get back on topic? And then I'd get flagged for participating in the "fight". And yet I would wager the people who posted horrible nonsensical fights for pages upon pages got the same punishment as me; a slap on the wrist, because they are STILL here.
It is one of the most annoying things about this site. I've been here for a long time, and I hate to sound like some kind of old-timer, but it did use to be a better place.
It only makes me mad because actual "good" discussion gets lost in the Hate and bull*****, and then the threads get locked. It is kind of funny, I agree, because people really try to act like they are Arcanis the Omnipotent when they are just someone behind a computer screen talking about a card game.
It's ridiculous.
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You’re a liar and you got called out for it. The fact that you persist is further proof that you’re probably the only one here with a personality disorder.
Please, feel free to show me the lie then. You sound like you're taking this all very personally. Maybe you should just mute me if you're not mature enough to avoid being triggered.
I think it's a little strange how you take issue with other people's ability to read, argue about semantics, and then pretend like inference isn't a thing.
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Hmm, and where am I pretending that inference isn't a thing? Again, if you're trying this hard to feel like you're being attacked, that's on you. Some people need to always feel like they are the victim. Not a week goes by that you specifically, Beavis, are not crying about something or another being offensive.
Your inference is worth precisely its weight in gold. Don't hurt yourself trying to get it on the scale now.
You insulted every single other person on this forum, then when I called you out for it you tried to pretend that you were including yourself in the insult despite using the phrase “you people” when making the insult, which inherently excludes yourself from the insult.
Why do you behave this way?
Whoa, it’s the buzz word, guys! He’s so cool when throws around buzz words, right guys?
so childish. Jesus Christ.
So you feel insulted by that I believe that everyone on this site has a personality disorder? Wow, that's pretty insulting to the vast majority of people with personality disorders who don't use this site.
And I used "you people" when referencing the all or nothing nature of you people. Is having an all or nothing view that insulting to you?
It's really not a buzzword, kid. You're throwing a fit because you need to feel like a victim. You're insulted because the idea that someone may view you as mentally ill does not support your unwarranted view that mentally ill people are inferior to you. Grow up, boy
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And what are you saying I meant with what? For being so critical of what I specifically said,, you sure seem to be pretty vague about why you've chosen to become offended by it.
You teach middle school English. You're not an expert at anything, besides maybe telling Susie to stop chewing gum.
I'm an aerospace engineer for what it's worth. Don't see how it's relevant.
It's relevant because one of us has been educated to impart both linguistic knowledge and communication skills to others, and the other is an aerospace engineer whose best argument continues to be a barrage of ad hominems. Suffice it to say, I'm not moved by your critique of my reading skills.
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