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Bravo Wizards! Bending people over. In almost every instance they are charging more than secondary. And $8 for a foil land and $6 for a nonfoil land?! Just silly...
I know these aren't for everyone, but that kind of retail price for a foil land (or any of these cards really) that are print to demand is just a slap in the face.
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Hah, I see that Wizards is still on their Viking metal marketing fix.
While I can see all the other art as at least kinda fitting their respective cards, I cannot get behind that Gisela art. Regardless of the cherub in that art wielding two swords, Gisela does not look like that.
Faeries: F Gross
Valentines: F----- Art for 3 year olds
Lands: C- Where is the color? Like watching black and white television.
Kaldheim Showcase: B+ Part 2 is a possible buy, maybe.
Playing since 1994: Currently MAGS (HomeBrew),Standard & Pauper (Pioneer and Modern are degenerate trash formats)
STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Note: We are planning an upcoming B&R announcement. In that announcement, we plan to ban Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath in Pioneer, Modern, and Historic. Additionally, we are continuing discussions about doing the same in Legacy. While we are still working internally on the larger B&R announcement for that week, we wanted to share this information ahead of this sale.
So... Non-foil Valentines probably has best value (Heliod + Gisela > $30 on TCGplayer) and I'm happy that Gisela is seeing a reprint after 5 years as it's a decent Boros curve-topper for EDH... but I don't find the art pleasant. I'm not sure what I don't like about the art, either. It's going for a simplified aesthetic not dissimilar to stuff like Adventure Time (which I have no trouble with) but something about the painting style doesn't grab me. Maybe it's just the whole candyland theme.
I am also a bit sad that wizards reduced Valentines Day to "Boros with Candy" without adding specific cards to meet the theme. Would have appreciated some on-theme cards like defense of the heart, ever after, Lovestruck Beast, Heart of Kiran, Heart-Piercer Bow, True Love's Kiss... Heck, giving players a semi-recreation of Proposal with different art and spaces to write in names would have been an excellent addition that could have been very popular.
REally appreciate the B&R heads up, though. Always nice to see wizards taking a shred of responsibility like that.
Lets hope like in the last bunch of batches, people just buy into these to get the free Promo addition and throw them on the 2ndary market for basically free.
Dont order them if you just want 1 of the cards, simply buy that card, thats cheaper and faster.
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So many people bought lots of the last Secret Lair and lost tremendous amounts of money in the process.
Interesting if this continues, the same people probably dont want to burn their hands again and again.
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Lets be real, these kinds of cards, could just be Promo cards in "The List" , nice throw ins for people to open in regular booster packs or products they want to buy anyway.
Instead we have this ... hammering nails into any LGS thats not already struggling anyway.
The Giants (Titans) ones are a giant middle finger from Wizards to us. First, include Primeval, which is banned in EDH. Second, exclude Sun Titan, which sees more EDH play than any of the other OG Titans. Third, breaking it up into TWO sets, when the Black is Magic lair shows they’re willing to do a 7 card set, and combining these would only be 6, and again that’s with unforgivably leaving one out. Fourth, they have two different price tags, despite both having the same theme and the same number of cards? Wizards just s******g all over us.
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The Giants (Titans) ones are a giant middle finger from Wizards to us. First, include Primeval, which is banned in EDH. Second, exclude Sun Titan, which sees more EDH play than any of the other OG Titans. Third, breaking it up into TWO sets, when the Black is Magic lair shows they’re willing to do a 7 card set, and combining these would only be 6, and again that’s with unforgivably leaving one out. Fourth, they have two different price tags, despite both having the same theme and the same number of cards? Wizards just s******g all over us.
Charging less for the one with Primetime (banned in Commander) and uro (soon to be banned just about everywhere except commander) makes a certain amount of sense in my eyes. I don't think that people would cough up equal money for 3 cards that could be used and 3 cards where 2 have notable restrictions on their usage. Plus, we literally just got a Sun Titan reprint in the Zendikar EDH decks, which were dirt cheap, so I can imagine wizards not thinking that they would be too successful in profiting off of that one. Other than that, agreed.
Edit: The art also seems to be by Brandi Milne. While I'm not too familiar with this artist, a quick google search isn't turning up too much art from her that looks... human. I imagine that a romantic scene in this artstyle would look a bit surreal (Imagine a Sugary Seb McKinnon piece).
guys... you forgot about the bonus card didn't you I think it will be in either
Oh and seeing what’s happening my patience has payed off for Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath has payed off now I can get it in edh without sacrificing my wallet
The Giants (Titans) ones are a giant middle finger from Wizards to us. First, include Primeval, which is banned in EDH. Second, exclude Sun Titan, which sees more EDH play than any of the other OG Titans. Third, breaking it up into TWO sets, when the Black is Magic lair shows they’re willing to do a 7 card set, and combining these would only be 6, and again that’s with unforgivably leaving one out. Fourth, they have two different price tags, despite both having the same theme and the same number of cards? Wizards just s******g all over us.
Are you low on Sun Titans or something?
It literally just got reprinted, and has had many more printings than Primeval (MANY commander decks including both recent Zendikar and Kaldheim commander decks, the alt art Heroes vs Monsters Duel deck, alt art Prerelease promo...) Where was Primeval reprinted with alternate art beyond the Grand Prix Promo? And then there was the Alternate Grave Titan DoTP promo which wasn't even available where I live and somehow got credited to the wrong artist. That's the Titan screw up you should be upset about, but I digress.
Why do you assume Secret Lair products are only geared towards commander players?
They can't throw modern a bone on occasion?
Geez, this is one of those Lairs I saw and instantly thought everyone would be happy with until I started reading and noticed the pending banning, which in all honesty is unsurprising, even if I'd prefer they unban something else in said formats instead to balance the playing fields. It it really so impossible to sideboard vs Uro, or are people just too lazy and not including the right cards in sideboards?
Regardless of the banning and absence of sun titan which I could care less about, I'll be buying some of these for sure without hesitation.
I'm just curious...How much more value do you want them to print, box up, and ship you at a discount (compared to the current secondary market value of the cards included) for such a product to be worth your time and interest? Personally, I'm happy to pay shipping, exchange to CAD, and duty above the tag and tax.
Perhaps if there was a "build-your own" Secret Lair where you can choose any five commons, four uncommons, three rares, and two mythics (from any previous secret lair product) it would be "worth it"?
EDIT: Just realized something... Every Secret Lair includes an extra card (often a stained-glass walker).
What if...Just maybe... the extra card in that drop IS a showcase Sun Titan?
Kinda silly, unless you're playing Legacy, you can't play Uro and Primeval in the same deck, or even the same format.
I adore the faeries, but that Valentine's one... this is the first one I've ever truly hated. It's uglier than than the tattoo pack, and it isn't even as poorly executed. The artist actually knew what they were doing, and what they is... bad.
Looking forward to picking up Glen Elendra Archmages on the secondary market, though.
Please, mill me. Mill my important cards. Mill my lands. Mill it all. Because I will still deal 20 damage before you can mill 45 cards most every time.
The Giants (Titans) ones are a giant middle finger from Wizards to us. First, include Primeval, which is banned in EDH. Second, exclude Sun Titan, which sees more EDH play than any of the other OG Titans. Third, breaking it up into TWO sets, when the Black is Magic lair shows they’re willing to do a 7 card set, and combining these would only be 6, and again that’s with unforgivably leaving one out. Fourth, they have two different price tags, despite both having the same theme and the same number of cards? Wizards just s******g all over us.
Are you low on Sun Titans or something?
It literally just got reprinted, and has had many more printings than Primeval (MANY commander decks including both recent Zendikar and Kaldheim commander decks, the alt art Heroes vs Monsters Duel deck, alt art Prerelease promo...) Where was Primeval reprinted with alternate art beyond the Grand Prix Promo? And then there was the Alternate Grave Titan DoTP promo which wasn't even available where I live and somehow got credited to the wrong artist. That's the Titan screw up you should be upset about, but I digress.
Why do you assume Secret Lair products are only geared towards commander players?
They can't throw modern a bone on occasion?
Geez, this is one of those Lairs I saw and instantly thought everyone would be happy with until I started reading and noticed the pending banning, which in all honesty is unsurprising, even if I'd prefer they unban something else in said formats instead to balance the playing fields. It it really so impossible to sideboard vs Uro, or are people just too lazy and not including the right cards in sideboards?
Regardless of the banning and absence of sun titan which I could care less about, I'll be buying some of these for sure without hesitation.
I'm just curious...How much more value do you want them to print, box up, and ship you at a discount (compared to the current secondary market value of the cards included) for such a product to be worth your time and interest? Personally, I'm happy to pay shipping, exchange to CAD, and duty above the tag and tax.
Perhaps if there was a "build-your own" Secret Lair where you can choose any five commons, four uncommons, three rares, and two mythics (from any previous secret lair product) it would be "worth it"?
If you think the secondary market price of Sun Titan was my point, you’re beyond clueless.
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those morons did it again just like with the snow land one
MAKE 5 TO 10 OF EACH BASIC FOR SECRET LAIRS! NOT 1 OF EACH!!
They were trending in the right direction with the Bob Ross lands, those were only $3 per basic land. At $6, these are more expensive than Unhinged Islands.
Faeries: The art for Glen Elendra Archmage and Vendilion Clique I think are the most charming of the 4. Basics: The art reminds me of something my dad would have made at one point which is good. Its also scummy that its only 1 of each land AND tbh, this is technically worse value than Eldraine Wonderland because these lands lack the snow subtype. Valentines: So first of all, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Goblin Rabblemaster, and the Goblin token are all horrifying to me more so than the tryhard metal attempts. Heliod, Sun-Crowned seems like it could be a meme especially if hes trying to stab Elspeth with that heart-shaped spear. The Monastery Swiftspear I feel indifferent about. The Boros Charm with the cherub comes across as actually more endearing than the Gisela one. Kaldheim Showcase Pt 1: This is gonna be bought by legacy and modern players because of Primeval Titan. Kaldheim Showcase Pt 2: This is gonna be bought more by commander players.
The Giants (Titans) ones are a giant middle finger from Wizards to us. First, include Primeval, which is banned in EDH. Second, exclude Sun Titan, which sees more EDH play than any of the other OG Titans. Third, breaking it up into TWO sets, when the Black is Magic lair shows they’re willing to do a 7 card set, and combining these would only be 6, and again that’s with unforgivably leaving one out. Fourth, they have two different price tags, despite both having the same theme and the same number of cards? Wizards just s******g all over us.
It's too bad you can't just opt out of the purchase. I know a guy who paid for a lifetime SL subscription, and he very much regrets it.
The Giants (Titans) ones are a giant middle finger from Wizards to us. First, include Primeval, which is banned in EDH. Second, exclude Sun Titan, which sees more EDH play than any of the other OG Titans. Third, breaking it up into TWO sets, when the Black is Magic lair shows they’re willing to do a 7 card set, and combining these would only be 6, and again that’s with unforgivably leaving one out. Fourth, they have two different price tags, despite both having the same theme and the same number of cards? Wizards just s******g all over us.
Are you low on Sun Titans or something?
It literally just got reprinted, and has had many more printings than Primeval (MANY commander decks including both recent Zendikar and Kaldheim commander decks, the alt art Heroes vs Monsters Duel deck, alt art Prerelease promo...) Where was Primeval reprinted with alternate art beyond the Grand Prix Promo? And then there was the Alternate Grave Titan DoTP promo which wasn't even available where I live and somehow got credited to the wrong artist. That's the Titan screw up you should be upset about, but I digress.
Why do you assume Secret Lair products are only geared towards commander players?
They can't throw modern a bone on occasion?
Geez, this is one of those Lairs I saw and instantly thought everyone would be happy with until I started reading and noticed the pending banning, which in all honesty is unsurprising, even if I'd prefer they unban something else in said formats instead to balance the playing fields. It it really so impossible to sideboard vs Uro, or are people just too lazy and not including the right cards in sideboards?
Regardless of the banning and absence of sun titan which I could care less about, I'll be buying some of these for sure without hesitation.
I'm just curious...How much more value do you want them to print, box up, and ship you at a discount (compared to the current secondary market value of the cards included) for such a product to be worth your time and interest? Personally, I'm happy to pay shipping, exchange to CAD, and duty above the tag and tax.
Perhaps if there was a "build-your own" Secret Lair where you can choose any five commons, four uncommons, three rares, and two mythics (from any previous secret lair product) it would be "worth it"?
If you think the secondary market price of Sun Titan was my point, you’re beyond clueless.
Dude, your initial point boils down to "Wizards is releasing an obviously bad product". That is an opinion that you are welcome to have. As it is an opinion, however, I don't have the ability to say "Nuh uh" and forcefully change your mind. All that we can do by means of conversation is share agreeing or contrasting opinions and share our ideas on why things are the way that they are (which is still unknowable to some degree but that we can probably reach a greater level of consensus on). Explaining why something is the way it is does not automatically excuse bad decisions or argue "this is the only way things could have been" but it can help to reveal external factors, build evidence that decisions were made with purpose rather than being slapdash works, and (in some cases) excuse some levels of asymmetry.
Why two of these products?
The format for these products isn't all that arbitrary. Wizards is obviously and transparently copying the format of their Theros God Secret Lairs from the previous year (1 multicolor mythic and 2 single color mythics of the component colors and same types).
Why is Sun Titan not here?
Because sun titan does not neatly fit into the format of the aforementioned Secret Lairs (as there was no white multicolor titan in Theros). As has been pointed out, the large number of reprints that Sun Titan has received relative to other titans may also explain why it is not here... and the corresponding lower price tag may actually increase the odds of Sun Titan appearing as a bonus promo in one or both of those packages. If all but one of the original titan cycle gets cool alternate art, that admittedly upsets my desire for symmetry and cool-looking cards. At the same time, it can be argued that not all secret lair drops are designed explicitly for Commander (thinking back to that drop with four serum vision, for example).
Why not include all 7 Elder Giants in one big drop?
(again, not saying that these are GOOD or SUFFICIENT reasons but that these are likely ACTUAL reasons)
1. Packaging 7 mythics in a single drop may risk drawing attention away from other drops being put out simultaneously. As long as Wizards keeps insisting on putting out a half-dozen drops at once (and insist they do, apparently), it is bad business sense for them to to print "The Good One" and make a bunch of others that fewer people have any interest in.
2. Secret Lairs don't typically include full cycles other than lands (Not sure whether the Zendikar one would count as one of those cards was originally an uncommon). I hope that this changes in the future (and that we get better packaging that allows secret lairs to be displayed as collector art pieces, closer to the Comic-con planeswalker kits).
3. While the new secret lair has 7 cards, Wizards may be going above and beyond what they are willing to release in normal drops when they do charity drops (releasing 7 cards in this one, more valuable cards than normal with the previous one such as consecrated sphinx, and releasing those brand new MLP cards in the charity drop before that). What wizards plans to do in an upcoming charity drop may not be a statement of what they are planning to do in regular drops, in other words.
Why do they not cost the same?
one of them has the weakest titan and two titans with notable bans and the other has three titans that don't have bans in longer-running formats. Nobody would buy the Simic one if it cost the same.
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Be excited and upset at the same time. Let's hear the opinions.
(Also check out the fine print under Kaldheim Showcase 1)
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Faerie, Faerie, Faerie Rad is available only in foil for $39.99/€44.99/£39.99.
The Unfathomable Crushing Brutality of Basic Lands is available in non-foil for $29.99/€34.99/£29.99 and foil for $39.99/€44.99/£39.99.
Valentine's Day 2021 is available in non-foil for $29.99/€34.99/£29.99 and foil for $39.99/€44.99/£39.99.
Showcase: Kaldheim – Part 1 is available in non-foil for $24.99/€29.99/£24.99 and non-foil for $34.99/€39.99/£34.99
Showcase: Kaldheim – Part 2 is available in non-foil for $29.99/€34.99/£29.99 and foil for $39.99/€44.99/£39.99.
EDIT: Note that if you live in the UK, new Brexit trade laws with the EU means you'll get these EVEN LATER than normal.
I know these aren't for everyone, but that kind of retail price for a foil land (or any of these cards really) that are print to demand is just a slap in the face.
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While I can see all the other art as at least kinda fitting their respective cards, I cannot get behind that Gisela art. Regardless of the cherub in that art wielding two swords, Gisela does not look like that.
Faeries: F Gross
Valentines: F----- Art for 3 year olds
Lands: C- Where is the color? Like watching black and white television.
Kaldheim Showcase: B+ Part 2 is a possible buy, maybe.
Uro after its ban, epic fail.
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Note: We are planning an upcoming B&R announcement. In that announcement, we plan to ban Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath in Pioneer, Modern, and Historic. Additionally, we are continuing discussions about doing the same in Legacy. While we are still working internally on the larger B&R announcement for that week, we wanted to share this information ahead of this sale.
I am also a bit sad that wizards reduced Valentines Day to "Boros with Candy" without adding specific cards to meet the theme. Would have appreciated some on-theme cards like defense of the heart, ever after, Lovestruck Beast, Heart of Kiran, Heart-Piercer Bow, True Love's Kiss... Heck, giving players a semi-recreation of Proposal with different art and spaces to write in names would have been an excellent addition that could have been very popular.
REally appreciate the B&R heads up, though. Always nice to see wizards taking a shred of responsibility like that.
Dont order them if you just want 1 of the cards, simply buy that card, thats cheaper and faster.
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So many people bought lots of the last Secret Lair and lost tremendous amounts of money in the process.
Interesting if this continues, the same people probably dont want to burn their hands again and again.
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Lets be real, these kinds of cards, could just be Promo cards in "The List" , nice throw ins for people to open in regular booster packs or products they want to buy anyway.
Instead we have this ... hammering nails into any LGS thats not already struggling anyway.
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Charging less for the one with Primetime (banned in Commander) and uro (soon to be banned just about everywhere except commander) makes a certain amount of sense in my eyes. I don't think that people would cough up equal money for 3 cards that could be used and 3 cards where 2 have notable restrictions on their usage. Plus, we literally just got a Sun Titan reprint in the Zendikar EDH decks, which were dirt cheap, so I can imagine wizards not thinking that they would be too successful in profiting off of that one. Other than that, agreed.
Edit: The art also seems to be by Brandi Milne. While I'm not too familiar with this artist, a quick google search isn't turning up too much art from her that looks... human. I imagine that a romantic scene in this artstyle would look a bit surreal (Imagine a Sugary Seb McKinnon piece).
guys... you forgot about the bonus card didn't you I think it will be in either
Oh and seeing what’s happening my patience has payed off for Uro, Titan of Nature's Wrath has payed off now I can get it in edh without sacrificing my wallet
those morons did it again just like with the snow land one
MAKE 5 TO 10 OF EACH BASIC FOR SECRET LAIRS! NOT 1 OF EACH!!
Are you low on Sun Titans or something?
It literally just got reprinted, and has had many more printings than Primeval (MANY commander decks including both recent Zendikar and Kaldheim commander decks, the alt art Heroes vs Monsters Duel deck, alt art Prerelease promo...) Where was Primeval reprinted with alternate art beyond the Grand Prix Promo? And then there was the Alternate Grave Titan DoTP promo which wasn't even available where I live and somehow got credited to the wrong artist. That's the Titan screw up you should be upset about, but I digress.
Why do you assume Secret Lair products are only geared towards commander players?
They can't throw modern a bone on occasion?
Geez, this is one of those Lairs I saw and instantly thought everyone would be happy with until I started reading and noticed the pending banning, which in all honesty is unsurprising, even if I'd prefer they unban something else in said formats instead to balance the playing fields. It it really so impossible to sideboard vs Uro, or are people just too lazy and not including the right cards in sideboards?
Regardless of the banning and absence of sun titan which I could care less about, I'll be buying some of these for sure without hesitation.
I'm just curious...How much more value do you want them to print, box up, and ship you at a discount (compared to the current secondary market value of the cards included) for such a product to be worth your time and interest? Personally, I'm happy to pay shipping, exchange to CAD, and duty above the tag and tax.
Perhaps if there was a "build-your own" Secret Lair where you can choose any five commons, four uncommons, three rares, and two mythics (from any previous secret lair product) it would be "worth it"?
EDIT: Just realized something... Every Secret Lair includes an extra card (often a stained-glass walker).
What if...Just maybe... the extra card in that drop IS a showcase Sun Titan?
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I adore the faeries, but that Valentine's one... this is the first one I've ever truly hated. It's uglier than than the tattoo pack, and it isn't even as poorly executed. The artist actually knew what they were doing, and what they is... bad.
Looking forward to picking up Glen Elendra Archmages on the secondary market, though.
If you think the secondary market price of Sun Titan was my point, you’re beyond clueless.
They were trending in the right direction with the Bob Ross lands, those were only $3 per basic land. At $6, these are more expensive than Unhinged Islands.
Anyway onto just evaluation:
Faeries: The art for Glen Elendra Archmage and Vendilion Clique I think are the most charming of the 4.
Basics: The art reminds me of something my dad would have made at one point which is good. Its also scummy that its only 1 of each land AND tbh, this is technically worse value than Eldraine Wonderland because these lands lack the snow subtype.
Valentines: So first of all, Gisela, Blade of Goldnight, Goblin Rabblemaster, and the Goblin token are all horrifying to me more so than the tryhard metal attempts. Heliod, Sun-Crowned seems like it could be a meme especially if hes trying to stab Elspeth with that heart-shaped spear. The Monastery Swiftspear I feel indifferent about. The Boros Charm with the cherub comes across as actually more endearing than the Gisela one.
Kaldheim Showcase Pt 1: This is gonna be bought by legacy and modern players because of Primeval Titan.
Kaldheim Showcase Pt 2: This is gonna be bought more by commander players.
It's too bad you can't just opt out of the purchase. I know a guy who paid for a lifetime SL subscription, and he very much regrets it.
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Dude, your initial point boils down to "Wizards is releasing an obviously bad product". That is an opinion that you are welcome to have. As it is an opinion, however, I don't have the ability to say "Nuh uh" and forcefully change your mind. All that we can do by means of conversation is share agreeing or contrasting opinions and share our ideas on why things are the way that they are (which is still unknowable to some degree but that we can probably reach a greater level of consensus on). Explaining why something is the way it is does not automatically excuse bad decisions or argue "this is the only way things could have been" but it can help to reveal external factors, build evidence that decisions were made with purpose rather than being slapdash works, and (in some cases) excuse some levels of asymmetry.
Why two of these products?
The format for these products isn't all that arbitrary. Wizards is obviously and transparently copying the format of their Theros God Secret Lairs from the previous year (1 multicolor mythic and 2 single color mythics of the component colors and same types).
Why is Sun Titan not here?
Because sun titan does not neatly fit into the format of the aforementioned Secret Lairs (as there was no white multicolor titan in Theros). As has been pointed out, the large number of reprints that Sun Titan has received relative to other titans may also explain why it is not here... and the corresponding lower price tag may actually increase the odds of Sun Titan appearing as a bonus promo in one or both of those packages. If all but one of the original titan cycle gets cool alternate art, that admittedly upsets my desire for symmetry and cool-looking cards. At the same time, it can be argued that not all secret lair drops are designed explicitly for Commander (thinking back to that drop with four serum vision, for example).
Why not include all 7 Elder Giants in one big drop?
(again, not saying that these are GOOD or SUFFICIENT reasons but that these are likely ACTUAL reasons)
1. Packaging 7 mythics in a single drop may risk drawing attention away from other drops being put out simultaneously. As long as Wizards keeps insisting on putting out a half-dozen drops at once (and insist they do, apparently), it is bad business sense for them to to print "The Good One" and make a bunch of others that fewer people have any interest in.
2. Secret Lairs don't typically include full cycles other than lands (Not sure whether the Zendikar one would count as one of those cards was originally an uncommon). I hope that this changes in the future (and that we get better packaging that allows secret lairs to be displayed as collector art pieces, closer to the Comic-con planeswalker kits).
3. While the new secret lair has 7 cards, Wizards may be going above and beyond what they are willing to release in normal drops when they do charity drops (releasing 7 cards in this one, more valuable cards than normal with the previous one such as consecrated sphinx, and releasing those brand new MLP cards in the charity drop before that). What wizards plans to do in an upcoming charity drop may not be a statement of what they are planning to do in regular drops, in other words.
Why do they not cost the same?
one of them has the weakest titan and two titans with notable bans and the other has three titans that don't have bans in longer-running formats. Nobody would buy the Simic one if it cost the same.