Saw it coming feels good. An early glance says its a bad counterspell but an expert player knows that holding this in safety of exile can turn the tide of a game in a heartbeat. Depends on the meta, but I think its cool.
I get the feeling foretell will end up like morph. It reads like a bluff mechanic but it really isn't at least in competitive formats, because A) there will be so few competitive foretell cards that each deck archetype will probably end up playing like one, which kinda removes the bluff effect. And B) if the card made the cut in your deck, it's likely a threat or another card I should probably care about. For bluffing mechanics to work you need "duds". But neither morph nor foretell really do this.
This is why manifest is the better bluff mechanic "template".
Foretell might actually kill Saw It Coming's chances of seeing play in Modern (and maybe Pioneer?). It's a Cancel whose upside involves you not casting it before Turn 3 (unless you have insane Turn 1 mana accel) and even busting your entire Turn 2 on Foretelling it at sorcery speed instead.
Foretell might actually kill Saw It Coming's chances of seeing play in Modern (and maybe Pioneer?). It's a Cancel whose upside involves you not casting it before Turn 3 (unless you have insane Turn 1 mana accel) and even busting your entire Turn 2 on Foretelling it at sorcery speed instead.
Really depends on the deck. U/W control will love it depending on what their early board is. Pure U might as well. More aggressive decks, no they probably have better things happening on turn 2 or 3 than this.
I get the feeling foretell will end up like morph. It reads like a bluff mechanic but it really isn't at least in competitive formats, because A) there will be so few competitive foretell cards that each deck archetype will probably end up playing like one, which kinda removes the bluff effect. And B) if the card made the cut in your deck, it's likely a threat or another card I should probably care about. For bluffing mechanics to work you need "duds". But neither morph nor foretell really do this.
This is why manifest is the better bluff mechanic "template".
That's a good point. Still, I think the rate on this is good enough that it will see quite a bit of play. But you are probably right that it will be hard for it to really be a "bluff" - it will often just be "well they have revealed to me that they have a 2-mana counter." I think that's still strong though!
I get the feeling foretell will end up like morph. It reads like a bluff mechanic but it really isn't at least in competitive formats, because A) there will be so few competitive foretell cards that each deck archetype will probably end up playing like one, which kinda removes the bluff effect. And B) if the card made the cut in your deck, it's likely a threat or another card I should probably care about. For bluffing mechanics to work you need "duds". But neither morph nor foretell really do this.
This is why manifest is the better bluff mechanic "template".
That's a good point. Still, I think the rate on this is good enough that it will see quite a bit of play. But you are probably right that it will be hard for it to really be a "bluff" - it will often just be "well they have revealed to me that they have a 2-mana counter." I think that's still strong though!
I wasn't concered about power level. I'm mostly talking about the design itself. I feel like morph is a bit of a missed opportunity as a bluff mechanic. It's more of a cost-reduction or combo mechanic. I kinda wish manifest would be the gold standard for bluff mechanics going forward, not morph.
I get the feeling foretell will end up like morph. It reads like a bluff mechanic but it really isn't at least in competitive formats, because A) there will be so few competitive foretell cards that each deck archetype will probably end up playing like one, which kinda removes the bluff effect. And B) if the card made the cut in your deck, it's likely a threat or another card I should probably care about. For bluffing mechanics to work you need "duds". But neither morph nor foretell really do this.
This is why manifest is the better bluff mechanic "template".
That's a good point. Still, I think the rate on this is good enough that it will see quite a bit of play. But you are probably right that it will be hard for it to really be a "bluff" - it will often just be "well they have revealed to me that they have a 2-mana counter." I think that's still strong though!
I wasn't concered about power level. I'm mostly talking about the design itself. I feel like morph is a bit of a missed opportunity as a bluff mechanic. It's more of a cost-reduction or combo mechanic. I kinda wish manifest would be the gold standard for bluff mechanics going forward, not morph.
I don't know how true this is now, there seem to be a lot of incentives to play Esper Foretell with a whole bunch of Foretell cards so the bluff factor may well be there.
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White is playing into the U(R/G) space of second spells again, and finally we get the playable foretell counterspell.
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White cleric also is a decent Fortell payoff as the cost reduction helps you fulfill the 2 spells per turn.
Gotta say, I like this mechanic.
I saw it coming.
Foretell it for 2 then later on counter any spell for only 1U? Immediate 4-of.
This is why manifest is the better bluff mechanic "template".
That's a good point. Still, I think the rate on this is good enough that it will see quite a bit of play. But you are probably right that it will be hard for it to really be a "bluff" - it will often just be "well they have revealed to me that they have a 2-mana counter." I think that's still strong though!
I wasn't concered about power level. I'm mostly talking about the design itself. I feel like morph is a bit of a missed opportunity as a bluff mechanic. It's more of a cost-reduction or combo mechanic. I kinda wish manifest would be the gold standard for bluff mechanics going forward, not morph.
I don't know how true this is now, there seem to be a lot of incentives to play Esper Foretell with a whole bunch of Foretell cards so the bluff factor may well be there.