Huh looks like those figures where right then listing Kaya.
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So Kaya is in kaldheim that confirms the figures because she was one of them
That means spirits will be on kaldheim because she assassinates those question is what spirit is her next bounty mtg version of Fossegrim perhaps (the fiddler) then again probably looking for liliana over there too
That means spirits will be on kaldheim because she’s a assassinates those
Not that much of a leap to assume that Kaya will be facing off against the Einherjar. The only thing that doesn't fit in this case is that Einherjar are the warriors of Odin (or in this case Alrund I guess?) so either we have another case of Heliod dickery or Kaya will be working for the bad guys.
That means spirits will be on kaldheim because she’s a assassinates those
Not that much of a leap to assume that Kaya will be facing off against the Einherjar. The only thing that doesn't fit in this case is that Einherjar are the warriors of Odin (or in this case Alrund I guess?) so either we have another case of Heliod dickery or Kaya will be working for the bad guys.
I understand the confusion doing my homework ever since maro mention creature types can be found by looking at Norse mythology
God I'm sick of Kaya. For one, she is probably going to ruin the story again by killing another character. For two, she killed the obzedat! I'll never forgive her. I was very excited to get a new card for them, and it got pushed out by a subpar Kaya card. And now she is here to ruin something else...
I understand the confusion doing my homework ever since maro mention creature types can be found by looking at Norse mythology
for Spirits it’s Vættir
I could be wrong but Vaettir is a far reaching term that in no way can be condensed on a single creature type. WotC already learned with Kamigawa, they won't attempt to say this, this and this are supposed to be the same type of being ever again, no matter how accurate the terminology is.
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I understand the confusion doing my homework ever since maro mention creature types can be found by looking at Norse mythology
for Spirits it’s Vættir
I could be wrong but Vaettir is a far reaching term that in no way can be condensed on a single creature type. WotC already learned with Kamigawa, they won't attempt to say this, this and this are supposed to be the same type of being ever again, no matter how accurate the terminology is.
I understand but if I’m mistaken it’s definatly not a spirit tribal route for this set
Besides there’s way to many creature types in Norse mythology for kaldheim to step tribal route same for legends
God I'm sick of Kaya. For one, she is probably going to ruin the story again by killing another character. For two, she killed the obzedat! I'll never forgive her. I was very excited to get a new card for them, and it got pushed out by a subpar Kaya card. And now she is here to ruin something else...
Eh their days where numbered since Teysa started plotting to take over.
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Oh great another spirit we will come to like will die now, great!
The packaging is in the same state as mtg storyline, you know, lili giving up the chainveil that looks more like a MacGuffin now, the whole War of the spark, and now ancient kor that happens to have a all powerfull device that no one knew before.
God I'm sick of Kaya. For one, she is probably going to ruin the story again by killing another character. For two, she killed the obzedat! I'll never forgive her. I was very excited to get a new card for them, and it got pushed out by a subpar Kaya card. And now she is here to ruin something else...
Yea Kaya kinda acts like their Deus Ex Machina to kill of characters.
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MTGS community are the type of people to get a partial artwork from roughly 1/3rd of a Bundle sleeve dug out of a dumpster and immediately begin complaining about how it's proof that the set and it's story all suck. Good grief, some people will complain about anything,and then assume that their complaints still hold a semblance of validity.
God I'm sick of Kaya. For one, she is probably going to ruin the story again by killing another character. For two, she killed the obzedat! I'll never forgive her. I was very excited to get a new card for them, and it got pushed out by a subpar Kaya card. And now she is here to ruin something else...
The thing about this complaint is that it doesn't really seem relevant here.
Yes, Kaya killed established characters in her only appearances so far.
Yes, a "spirit killer" is probably going to kill spirits again this time around.
The thing about that, though, is that this is an entirely new plane for us.
There aren't going to be people who were hoping to see more cards of "Kromaun of the Hallowed Halls" or whatever because any creature she kills this time around will be entirely new and will have no pre-established fans. If anything, putting Kaya in brand new planes is the safest way to use her as it means that we don't have to worry about her bumping off an established character that people already like.
God I'm sick of Kaya. For one, she is probably going to ruin the story again by killing another character. For two, she killed the obzedat! I'll never forgive her. I was very excited to get a new card for them, and it got pushed out by a subpar Kaya card. And now she is here to ruin something else...
The thing about this complaint is that it doesn't really seem relevant here.
Yes, Kaya killed established characters in her only appearances so far.
Yes, a "spirit killer" is probably going to kill spirits again this time around.
The thing about that, though, is that this is an entirely new plane for us.
There aren't going to be people who were hoping to see more cards of "Kromaun of the Hallowed Halls" or whatever because any creature she kills this time around will be entirely new and will have no pre-established fans. If anything, putting Kaya in brand new planes is the safest way to use her as it means that we don't have to worry about her bumping off an established character that people already like.
Yup, this precisely.
Also, we can always see new cards for characters killed off in the story. We have a set prereleasing this very week that has multiple characters that are dead in the story getting cards. Some of them didn't even already have 3 different variations.
God I'm sick of Kaya. For one, she is probably going to ruin the story again by killing another character. For two, she killed the obzedat! I'll never forgive her. I was very excited to get a new card for them, and it got pushed out by a subpar Kaya card. And now she is here to ruin something else...
The thing about this complaint is that it doesn't really seem relevant here.
Yes, Kaya killed established characters in her only appearances so far.
Yes, a "spirit killer" is probably going to kill spirits again this time around.
The thing about that, though, is that this is an entirely new plane for us.
There aren't going to be people who were hoping to see more cards of "Kromaun of the Hallowed Halls" or whatever because any creature she kills this time around will be entirely new and will have no pre-established fans. If anything, putting Kaya in brand new planes is the safest way to use her as it means that we don't have to worry about her bumping off an established character that people already like.
yep pretty much the ghost she’s gonna hit this time is probably one with no love or lore whatsoever
and It’s not exactly the first time new characters introduced get killed off quickly
It's just stupid writing. Planeswalkers show up on foreign worlds ready to show everyone who is boss. An entire unique plane is just a back drop for them instead of its own dimension. They should be exploring new worlds, learning from its mages, delving into new magic, etc. Not showing up and flexing on the turf of others. Planar overloads like gods, Avacyn, Progenitus, Eldrazi, etc. are unfathomable opponents, if they are just pushovers for Planeswalkers, then everything beneath them is as well, such as hydras, baloths, etc. at which point, literally nothing matters and there are no stakes.
Gideon whipping Ulamog back is the highest offense of this.
God I'm sick of Kaya. For one, she is probably going to ruin the story again by killing another character. For two, she killed the obzedat! I'll never forgive her. I was very excited to get a new card for them, and it got pushed out by a subpar Kaya card. And now she is here to ruin something else...
The thing about this complaint is that it doesn't really seem relevant here.
Yes, Kaya killed established characters in her only appearances so far.
Yes, a "spirit killer" is probably going to kill spirits again this time around.
The thing about that, though, is that this is an entirely new plane for us.
There aren't going to be people who were hoping to see more cards of "Kromaun of the Hallowed Halls" or whatever because any creature she kills this time around will be entirely new and will have no pre-established fans. If anything, putting Kaya in brand new planes is the safest way to use her as it means that we don't have to worry about her bumping off an established character that people already like.
However this puts the cart in front of the horse. If its to be expected that the new spirit to be assassinated has low importance and is just there to be killed, then Kaya's own story lacks any weight except when it creates internal conflict and havoc. And they already played the same card twice with her in that the death results in any political and economical upheaval due to their absence. Yet unless Wizards has learned from their mistake of actually staying on a plane instead so the players can see how such a world would follow up after such a important event, they are just going to leave the plane as harmed as it was by Kaya's own actions which makes her an antagonistic force on a multiverse scale. Then they will say, when we return, that everything was fixed offscreen.
TL;DR: Why should we bother caring about Kaya killing some spirit if its on a new plane. And by extension why should we care about Kaya as a character?
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That means spirits will be on kaldheim because she assassinates those question is what spirit is her next bounty mtg version of Fossegrim perhaps (the fiddler) then again probably looking for liliana over there too
I understand the confusion doing my homework ever since maro mention creature types can be found by looking at Norse mythology
for Spirits it’s Vættir
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vættir
the most famous spirit of the mythology is fossegrim (the fiddler in the lake)
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I could be wrong but Vaettir is a far reaching term that in no way can be condensed on a single creature type. WotC already learned with Kamigawa, they won't attempt to say this, this and this are supposed to be the same type of being ever again, no matter how accurate the terminology is.
Methinks we are going to see some more leaks soon as there would be 10 packs in there potentially.
Plus Assassin's Creed Valhalla released yesterday. Looks like WotC is trying to tie in. Kaya is an Assassin after all. Crossover cards here we come.
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I understand but if I’m mistaken it’s definatly not a spirit tribal route for this set
Besides there’s way to many creature types in Norse mythology for kaldheim to step tribal route same for legends
Eh their days where numbered since Teysa started plotting to take over.
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The packaging is in the same state as mtg storyline, you know, lili giving up the chainveil that looks more like a MacGuffin now, the whole War of the spark, and now ancient kor that happens to have a all powerfull device that no one knew before.
Yea Kaya kinda acts like their Deus Ex Machina to kill of characters.
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The thing about this complaint is that it doesn't really seem relevant here.
Yes, Kaya killed established characters in her only appearances so far.
Yes, a "spirit killer" is probably going to kill spirits again this time around.
The thing about that, though, is that this is an entirely new plane for us.
There aren't going to be people who were hoping to see more cards of "Kromaun of the Hallowed Halls" or whatever because any creature she kills this time around will be entirely new and will have no pre-established fans. If anything, putting Kaya in brand new planes is the safest way to use her as it means that we don't have to worry about her bumping off an established character that people already like.
Yup, this precisely.
Also, we can always see new cards for characters killed off in the story. We have a set prereleasing this very week that has multiple characters that are dead in the story getting cards. Some of them didn't even already have 3 different variations.
Kroxa, Titan of Death's Hunger
Omnath, Locus of Rage
Kinnan, Bonder Prodigy
Toshiro Umezawa
Thraximundar
Jirina Kudro
Geist of Saint Traft
Krark, the Thumbless + Sakashima of a Thousand Faces
This site has me constantly saying "Some peoples' kids"
They're directly responsible for Sphinx's Decree being so bad.
yep pretty much the ghost she’s gonna hit this time is probably one with no love or lore whatsoever
and It’s not exactly the first time new characters introduced get killed off quickly
Gideon whipping Ulamog back is the highest offense of this.
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Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
TL;DR: Why should we bother caring about Kaya killing some spirit if its on a new plane. And by extension why should we care about Kaya as a character?