Standard:
Omnath, Locus of Creation is banned.
Lucky Clover is banned.
Escape to the Wilds is banned.
Historic:
Omnath, Locus of Creation is suspended.
Teferi, Time Raveler is banned.
Wilderness Reclamation is banned.
Burning-Tree Emissary is unsuspended.
This might be one of the fastest bans I've ever seen
lutri was faster it got banned in commander the moment it was previewed
but yes it did get banned fast In retro spect This probably would have never happened if they remembered to look what’s in standard so far and If Lotus cobra was never reprinted the deck probably would have never happened
but I’m willing to bet we’re not out of the woods yet pioneer will probably try it
This might be one of the fastest bans I've ever seen
lutri was faster it got banned in commander the moment it was previewed
but yes it did get banned fast In retro spect This probably would have never happened if they remembered to look what’s in standard so far and If Lotus cobra was never reprinted the deck probably would have never happened
but I’m willing to bet we’re not out of the woods yet pioneer will probably try it
Yes Omnom is continuing to infect Pioneer as we speak. Only a matter of time before it warps the format. Already the #2 played creature behind the other toxic creature Uro. Omnom Uro piles will get boring fast in Pioneer. All I ever see is Uro-nath piles and mono Black. Creative thinking is at an all time low in Pioneer. (And the format is barely a year old.)
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This might be one of the fastest bans I've ever seen
lutri was faster it got banned in commander the moment it was previewed
but yes it did get banned fast In retro spect This probably would have never happened if they remembered to look what’s in standard so far and If Lotus cobra was never reprinted the deck probably would have never happened
but I’m willing to bet we’re not out of the woods yet pioneer will probably try it
If anyone cared about pioneer, then it would have been banned there as well.
I mean, Pioneer is really close in power level to Historic in the highest powered echelon of the formats.
if Omnath is too strong for historic, chances are it's too powerful for Pioneer as well.
i am pretty happy with this banning. i dont think escape into the wilds needed a bann when they do it with omnath. but i actually dont care for this card. so finally something good
This might be one of the fastest bans I've ever seen
lutri was faster it got banned in commander the moment it was previewed
but yes it did get banned fast In retro spect This probably would have never happened if they remembered to look what’s in standard so far and If Lotus cobra was never reprinted the deck probably would have never happened
but I’m willing to bet we’re not out of the woods yet pioneer will probably try it
If anyone cared about pioneer, then it would have been banned there as well.
I mean, Pioneer is really close in power level to Historic in the highest powered echelon of the formats.
if Omnath is too strong for historic, chances are it's too powerful for Pioneer as well.
It (and Uro) are too powerful for Pioneer as well, but playership of Pioneer is as low as its ever been. Without some help the format is going to die on the vine. Pioneer needs robust and regular bannings to keep it fresh so it doesn't devolve into a narrow format, its on its way there right now. WotC still wants to sell Omnom so it will remain until the next set drops. Its all about the Benjamins to Hasbro.
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I’m not into constructed so much anymore but even in limited the moment Omnath comes down, if you have no way to immediately deal with it, scoop.
2019/2020’s Standard season has been a giant clusterf*ck the likes I haven’t seen in years. How many banned cards from Eldraine does that make now?
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a dozen or so. /EDIT sorry that would be ~15 from few recent sets in all available formats. not really much better.
it should not be a surprise to anyone that this will be the end result of FIRE design philosophy. it's basically moving beta testing of sets from inside rnd to open environment.
the problem is that only cards supporting certain strategies are being pushed which ends up in unbalanced meta instead of multiple powerful decks. eg 7/10 top cards from pioneer meta is u and 6/10 comes with no card disadvantage.
It (and Uro) are too powerful for Pioneer as well, but playership of Pioneer is as low as its ever been. Without some help the format is going to die on the vine. Pioneer needs robust and regular bannings to keep it fresh so it doesn't devolve into a narrow format, its on its way there right now. WotC still wants to sell Omnom so it will remain until the next set drops. Its all about the Benjamins to Hasbro.
they should drop Pioneer altogether.....
and replace it with historic also on paper.....
historic has a big following because of Arena and is a pretty fun format.
if Pioneer was fully developed on arena, then it would most likely be played, as is today it's a format that no one asked and that doesn't really make any sense at all.
It (and Uro) are too powerful for Pioneer as well, but playership of Pioneer is as low as its ever been. Without some help the format is going to die on the vine. Pioneer needs robust and regular bannings to keep it fresh so it doesn't devolve into a narrow format, its on its way there right now. WotC still wants to sell Omnom so it will remain until the next set drops. Its all about the Benjamins to Hasbro.
they should drop Pioneer altogether.....
and replace it with historic also on paper.....
historic has a big following because of Arena and is a pretty fun format.
if Pioneer was fully developed on arena, then it would most likely be played, as is today it's a format that no one asked and that doesn't really make any sense at all.
Lack of in person paper tournaments and events is slowly killing Pioneer. Once we dig out from covid19 it will pick up. Not everyone wants to play on Arena, paper is so much more an immersive experience than either of the dopplegangers Arena and Online. Historic is the half step between Modern and Pioneer. If Modern and Pioneer show up on Arena, Historic will fade into the shadows. Time will tell on this one.
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Was hoping they'd snag Embercleave in the process of cleaning house. Really tired of red getting to say 'oops, I win!' and the ramp deck was refreshing for a while.
I’m kind of surprised about the Escape to the wilds ban, but I can see their point in that it acted as a bridge between cobra and Ugin. Honestly after the last two years I get the feeling like WOTC is trying desperately to end the dominance of ramp decks in standard and that Omnath, Locus of Creation might have been intended for Commander so it didn’t get much testing in the Future Future League and they ended up being blindsided that it was playable outside of EDH.
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Standard:
Omnath, Locus of Creation is banned.
Lucky Clover is banned.
Escape to the Wilds is banned.
Historic:
Omnath, Locus of Creation is suspended.
Teferi, Time Raveler is banned.
Wilderness Reclamation is banned.
Burning-Tree Emissary is unsuspended.
Brawl:
Omnath, Locus of Creation is banned.
Effective Date: October 12, 2020
Time to dominate Standard again, old friend.
bought I hair to soon but couldn’t risk omnath 4 getting a price tag similar to uro in a few weeks
picks up bag of popcorn...
lol, yes.....
WotC seems really, really lost.
the meta will most likely become a crazy aggrofest now.
Rakdos midrange being the slow deck lol.
Grull landfall, monored and other stuff capable of running Embercleave will probably destroy everything now.
lutri was faster it got banned in commander the moment it was previewed
but yes it did get banned fast In retro spect This probably would have never happened if they remembered to look what’s in standard so far and If Lotus cobra was never reprinted the deck probably would have never happened
but I’m willing to bet we’re not out of the woods yet pioneer will probably try it
Memory Jar was legal for only one week.
Yes Omnom is continuing to infect Pioneer as we speak. Only a matter of time before it warps the format. Already the #2 played creature behind the other toxic creature Uro. Omnom Uro piles will get boring fast in Pioneer. All I ever see is Uro-nath piles and mono Black. Creative thinking is at an all time low in Pioneer. (And the format is barely a year old.)
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/format-staples/pioneer
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I mean, Pioneer is really close in power level to Historic in the highest powered echelon of the formats.
if Omnath is too strong for historic, chances are it's too powerful for Pioneer as well.
As war machine pointed out
https://www.mtggoldfish.com/format-staples/pioneer
Omnath is the 2# on the most played creatures in pioneer right now it’s already happened
I’m not into constructed so much anymore but even in limited the moment Omnath comes down, if you have no way to immediately deal with it, scoop.
2019/2020’s Standard season has been a giant clusterf*ck the likes I haven’t seen in years. How many banned cards from Eldraine does that make now?
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STOP using "dude/bro" as a pejorative or insult. Grow up.
Margaret Thatcher: “The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.”
Benjamin Franklin: "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."
Martin Luther King Jr.: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
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it should not be a surprise to anyone that this will be the end result of FIRE design philosophy. it's basically moving beta testing of sets from inside rnd to open environment.
the problem is that only cards supporting certain strategies are being pushed which ends up in unbalanced meta instead of multiple powerful decks. eg 7/10 top cards from pioneer meta is u and 6/10 comes with no card disadvantage.
and replace it with historic also on paper.....
historic has a big following because of Arena and is a pretty fun format.
if Pioneer was fully developed on arena, then it would most likely be played, as is today it's a format that no one asked and that doesn't really make any sense at all.
Lack of in person paper tournaments and events is slowly killing Pioneer. Once we dig out from covid19 it will pick up. Not everyone wants to play on Arena, paper is so much more an immersive experience than either of the dopplegangers Arena and Online. Historic is the half step between Modern and Pioneer. If Modern and Pioneer show up on Arena, Historic will fade into the shadows. Time will tell on this one.
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