MaRo ponders..."can I poop in a mylar baggie and expect people to buy it? I think I can..."
MaRo designs Standard sets, he doesn't sell anything
I think you missed the point. As far as I can tell, the statement Elostirion(again) made indicates that s/he thinks MaRo is lying about the product's true name.
@foam_dome: Only technically. MaRo is a salesperson first and a designer second. Just read anything he writes to see that. Or at least every part of MaRo that customers see is that way.
@Lectrys You're closer, but not in the gold. This is my fault though. I think a lot more than I write usually, especially on message boards, because I'm trying not to be pedantic and boring but to quickly stab at the heart of the topic and get back to my work. I presume most people are happy to either get my message or let it blow by them with all the other stuff on the interwebs they dont already agree with. But if someone takes the interest to respond, especially with curiosity, then I'm happy to elaborate.
We the Magic customers, are fairly notorious for studying MTG product releases. We're actually held up as the gold standard for other gaming genres as examples of informed customers, if you want to know. We reverse engineer printer collation logistics and distribution patterns and calculate ROI on an unopened pack of whatever the new set is before it hits the shelves to determine how much, if any, to buy of it. We're all kinds of awesome that way.
Sometimes it sucks though, because that sucks the fun out of some things. Magic is a game which changes so frequently because at any given instant, it has a limited shelf life. Any given Standard metagame for example, has 1-3 top tier decks, and 5-7 decks which would be fun to play with and play against if you didnt know that everyone (or most everyone) was going to bring a top tier deck. The more analysis we do hastens the consolidation of the metagame away from containing 6-10 decks toward containing 1-3 decks. Its gotten so bad that the first tournament in the Standard which is only a week old skipped straight to the 1-3 stage, with 67% of the field being Golos, 20% being Oko (a meta-response to Golos) and about 10% everything else. Even pre-releases are massively meta'd, with most players knowing all the cards and the likely selection sets for a 'good' sealed pool or expectations for draft.
Our type of awesome can suck some of the fun away.
Now we have a product that we get to know nothing about. It could seem to be a nice counter/response to this trend. Curate a tournament environment that WotC believes will be viable, but the players dont get to hyperanalyze. It could allow more of the metagaming to take place alongside the actual gaming. It could lower the barrier to fun by taking away the requirement to study hard, and spend money in just the right places before playing. Grumpy old farts like me chould love this.
But details matter. Delivery matters. Did MaRo, consummate sales-pitch-artist that he is, take the time to say any of this? One sentence would be enough. No. What's the price of the product? Closer to a premium product than a commodity-draft product. That suggests to me that this is not a product intended to do the positive things I've written above. It suggests to me that this is yet another cash grab, and when the rest of marketing campaign for this product comes out, I'll think that its just as half-baked as most of the rest of what they've done since about 2004.
So with your telepathic powers in play, the statement that Elostirion(again) made indicates that he is merely bu++hur+ that a product he could have really enjoyed, which might have shown that WotC noticed and seeks to mitigate a drain on the fun is instead, not that thing.
it's probably some kind of gimmick like OMG ITS ALL RARES FROM ALL OF MAGIC! except they're all cards like charmbreaker devils and mana short then they include a mana crypt with new art to maximize fomo and gambling aspects at a premium price
Personally, I thought Elostirion(again)'s comment about pooping in a mylar baggie was a reference to the stunt Cards Against Humanity did some years back.
I'll really love it if the cards in the mystery set had no set numbers. That'd heighten the mystery somewhat. Even more so if the convention version and store version have different card pools. There's a lot they COULD do with a mystery set. It really depends on how far they want to take it.
My guess it is a Ultimate masters 2 just with a different packaging, it is not standard legal and I doubt they are designing new cards for "mystery". Mostly reprints for modern/legacy and commander.
it's probably some kind of gimmick like OMG ITS ALL RARES FROM ALL OF MAGIC! except they're all cards like charmbreaker devils and mana short then they include a mana crypt with new art to maximize fomo and gambling aspects at a premium price
On twitter. Random packs cards from sets going at least back to Odyssey, 2 rares per pack, first card is a WotC test card (a card with a sticker on it), probably by some margin the most interesting thing in the packs.
yeah, aside from the test card, these look WORSE than Ebay repacks, is that even possible? I am curious to get an article and see what the heck is going on. it sorta looks like the entire article will be 'gotcha! omg you idiots PAID for that! I can't believe that worked!'
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From what it looks like, it's just Wizards doing their own repacks of bulk they had laying around taking up space.
Not even true. Each of the cards has the planeswalker symbol stamped on the bottom left corner. These are FRESHLY PRINTED (which is why they stated there would be no reserved list in the packs).
From what it looks like, it's just Wizards doing their own repacks of bulk they had laying around taking up space.
Not even true. Each of the cards has the planeswalker symbol stamped on the bottom left corner. These are FRESHLY PRINTED (which is why they stated there would be no reserved list in the packs).
Not sure if this makes it better or worse.
I think it is true, they are repacking. The stamp is put on the cards later. Look a the different card frames, expansion symbols and other elements that show they are older cards, no new reprints.
@foam_dome: Only technically. MaRo is a salesperson first and a designer second. Just read anything he writes to see that. Or at least every part of MaRo that customers see is that way.
@Lectrys You're closer, but not in the gold. This is my fault though. I think a lot more than I write usually, especially on message boards, because I'm trying not to be pedantic and boring but to quickly stab at the heart of the topic and get back to my work. I presume most people are happy to either get my message or let it blow by them with all the other stuff on the interwebs they dont already agree with. But if someone takes the interest to respond, especially with curiosity, then I'm happy to elaborate.
We the Magic customers, are fairly notorious for studying MTG product releases. We're actually held up as the gold standard for other gaming genres as examples of informed customers, if you want to know. We reverse engineer printer collation logistics and distribution patterns and calculate ROI on an unopened pack of whatever the new set is before it hits the shelves to determine how much, if any, to buy of it. We're all kinds of awesome that way.
Sometimes it sucks though, because that sucks the fun out of some things. Magic is a game which changes so frequently because at any given instant, it has a limited shelf life. Any given Standard metagame for example, has 1-3 top tier decks, and 5-7 decks which would be fun to play with and play against if you didnt know that everyone (or most everyone) was going to bring a top tier deck. The more analysis we do hastens the consolidation of the metagame away from containing 6-10 decks toward containing 1-3 decks. Its gotten so bad that the first tournament in the Standard which is only a week old skipped straight to the 1-3 stage, with 67% of the field being Golos, 20% being Oko (a meta-response to Golos) and about 10% everything else. Even pre-releases are massively meta'd, with most players knowing all the cards and the likely selection sets for a 'good' sealed pool or expectations for draft.
Our type of awesome can suck some of the fun away.
Now we have a product that we get to know nothing about. It could seem to be a nice counter/response to this trend. Curate a tournament environment that WotC believes will be viable, but the players dont get to hyperanalyze. It could allow more of the metagaming to take place alongside the actual gaming. It could lower the barrier to fun by taking away the requirement to study hard, and spend money in just the right places before playing. Grumpy old farts like me chould love this.
But details matter. Delivery matters. Did MaRo, consummate sales-pitch-artist that he is, take the time to say any of this? One sentence would be enough. No. What's the price of the product? Closer to a premium product than a commodity-draft product. That suggests to me that this is not a product intended to do the positive things I've written above. It suggests to me that this is yet another cash grab, and when the rest of marketing campaign for this product comes out, I'll think that its just as half-baked as most of the rest of what they've done since about 2004.
So with your telepathic powers in play, the statement that Elostirion(again) made indicates that he is merely bu++hur+ that a product he could have really enjoyed, which might have shown that WotC noticed and seeks to mitigate a drain on the fun is instead, not that thing.
I'll really love it if the cards in the mystery set had no set numbers. That'd heighten the mystery somewhat. Even more so if the convention version and store version have different card pools. There's a lot they COULD do with a mystery set. It really depends on how far they want to take it.
Sounds depressingly realistic and likely.
probably reprints from the set line
I feel like all three 2.0 versions of the eldrazi titans will get reprinted if this is the case especially emrakul, the promised end with Aetherworks Marvel
My heart is hoping it’s something I can use in my casual builds, or even inspire a brand new casual deck.
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nasty
something i might actually pass on for once
Not even true. Each of the cards has the planeswalker symbol stamped on the bottom left corner. These are FRESHLY PRINTED (which is why they stated there would be no reserved list in the packs).
Not sure if this makes it better or worse.
I think it is true, they are repacking. The stamp is put on the cards later. Look a the different card frames, expansion symbols and other elements that show they are older cards, no new reprints.
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You lose the game.
I wonder what other crazy ideas wizards...
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Throat wolf, Throat wolf, please God Throat wolf!