Mechanics-wise:
So Oko here can give you a 3/3 every second turn. Unfortunately, if he wants to protect himself the turn he ETB, he needs an artifact he can transform. Seems like my best option for him in Modern is Whirza, which needs the clock when it gets Stony Silenced...
Story-wise:
I suspected that Oko may try impersonating the High King when I heard he could shapeshift into the form of other people, and now it looks like he'll turn the High King into an elk in the process so he won't run into the "collide with good twin" problem.
Mechanics-wise:
So Oko here can give you a 3/3 every second turn. Unfortunately, if he wants to protect himself the turn he ETB, he needs an artifact he can transform. Seems like my best option for him in Modern is Whirza, which needs the clock when it gets Stony Silenced...
This thread going to turn into the other one? Because the card itself is pretty cool, and we’re only a page deep and here comes the BS.
I know, right? If there was another thread regarding hate speech, I am sadly unaware of it. Anyways, as previously stated, we should get back to the card. Have fun ya'll!
This thread going to turn into the other one? Because the card itself is pretty cool, and we’re only a page deep and here comes the BS.
I know, right? If there was another thread regarding hate speech, I am sadly unaware of it. Anyways, as previously stated, we should get back to the card. Have fun ya'll!
Not really, just a thread going off the rails regarding the Forbes art of this character. I just found it kind of amusing that one person shouting down potentially bigoted ideas comes to this thread and immediately makes a comment that can be seen as nothing more than stirring the pot, really. Then, you have the neo-nazi comment. I don’t personally care if it’s true or not, but the fact is, it will encourage the use of similar “labels”.
Feels weird that they made him produce food instead of treasure tokens. He's a shapeshifter and an evil dude right? I thought evil dudes liked treasure, and it would work with the artifact swap part too. Here's to hoping food is like clue tokens, because I sure love card draw. Maybe its an artifact token with an etb and no other effects?
Feels weird that they made him produce food instead of treasure tokens. He's a shapeshifter and an evil dude right? I thought evil dudes liked treasure, and it would work with the artifact swap part too. Here's to hoping food is like clue tokens, because I sure love card draw. Maybe its an artifact token with an etb and no other effects?
Food Token :
, sacrifice this food,T: Gain 3 life.
just saying (before people find the rare spoiler for today, rare bird...)
Feels weird that they made him produce food instead of treasure tokens. He's a shapeshifter and an evil dude right? I thought evil dudes liked treasure, and it would work with the artifact swap part too. Here's to hoping food is like clue tokens, because I sure love card draw. Maybe its an artifact token with an etb and no other effects?
Food Token :
, sacrifice this food,T: Gain 3 life.
just saying (before people find the rare spoiler for today, rare bird...)
Ugh, is that really all it is? Is the food an artifact, or some other permanent type?
I was hoping it would be modal, with sacrifice for either 2 life or a +1/+1 counter, or something like that.
Anyway, the card seems kinda great even without the +2. That +1 can do a lot of work. *Especially* in commander, where turning an opponent's commander into a 3/3 but leaving it on the battlefield is far better than just killing it.
Feels weird that they made him produce food instead of treasure tokens. He's a shapeshifter and an evil dude right? I thought evil dudes liked treasure, and it would work with the artifact swap part too. Here's to hoping food is like clue tokens, because I sure love card draw. Maybe it's an artifact token with an etb and no other effects?
The Fey are tricksters and do whatever they want. If he's templated after Dungeons and Dragons' Fey, he'll probably be more of a malicious prankster than just straight up evil. It'll also give him room to have more anti-hero moments if Wizards doesn't want to make him a villain through and through.
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Is the person in question actually a neo-nazi? Or do we just not agree with his views so we apply a label? Cuts both ways. Glad that’s what you got out of that, though.
Is the food an artifact, or some other permanent type?
Artifact. MaRo confirmed that hours ago (without telling us what Food tokens do), and the ability comes from the reminder text on Gilded Goose (which makes Food on etb as well as for 1G, t)
Is the person in question actually a neo-nazi? Or do we just not agree with his views so we apply a label? Cuts both ways. Glad that’s what you got out of that, though.
Food, so far, isn’t very exciting.
Technically I called him a Neo Nazi cosplayer, and as he's released photos of him wearing an Iron Cross, the description is pretty accurate.
Is the person in question actually a neo-nazi? Or do we just not agree with his views so we apply a label? Cuts both ways. Glad that’s what you got out of that, though.
Food, so far, isn’t very exciting.
Are you not familiar with who Milo Yiannopoulos is or something? Yes, he's a neo-Nazi. Not exactly a controversial statement like you're trying to make it out to be.
Anyway.
I see that Oko is not shapeshifting himself so much as other stuff. I think I would have liked that better than "food token." Still pretty decent.
Never take any food the fey offer you now children. Never what it seems.
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Anyone else keep accidentally misreading the title as "Thief of Clowns"?
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
I have a feeling Oko will be really obnoxious paired with Nissa, Who Shakes the World during the second half of her run through Standard... Those awakened lands lose vigilance and can't tap for mana, but they become 6/6 beatsticks, or he can just make even more 3/3s..
Because when I think of a thief of crowns, the first thing my mind goes to is someone who makes food and turns various objects and people into deer
This dude doesn't seem all that great to me, although turning some of your opponent's best creatures into vanilla 3/3s later in the game could be useful
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
My God this card looks soo powaful. All cuz of how cheap he is with such a +1 ! Either turn his own tokens into 3/3's, or your other tiny creatures, or even the opponents biggest threats. How sick !
Turn 1 Arboreal Grazer, turn 2 Oko & attack for 3 & have Oko @ 5 loyality.
Also good with the new goose.
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So Oko here can give you a 3/3 every second turn. Unfortunately, if he wants to protect himself the turn he ETB, he needs an artifact he can transform. Seems like my best option for him in Modern is Whirza, which needs the clock when it gets Stony Silenced...
He can actually steal some decent creatures in Modern: Bob, Vendilion Clique, Urza, Lord High Artificer, Goblin Engineer...this guy could be a Whirza mirror breaker.
Story-wise:
I suspected that Oko may try impersonating the High King when I heard he could shapeshift into the form of other people, and now it looks like he'll turn the High King into an elk in the process so he won't run into the "collide with good twin" problem.
Art is life itself.
Did you not just defend in the other thread? Yet, you make a comment with sexual undertones? Don’t really see the need for that type of commentary.
Oh look, hate speech.
This thread going to turn into the other one? Because the card itself is pretty cool, and we’re only a page deep and here comes the BS.
I did state that, yes.
You can read the wiki on plenty of details about him here, and he hung out with the Amazing Lucas and Black Mike that last weekend as told here.
Now that it has been settled and before this thread derails, let's get back to the card...
Perhaps Darksteel Relic can be used here? Can be traded and then the opponent would have useless chaff pretty much.
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I know, right? If there was another thread regarding hate speech, I am sadly unaware of it. Anyways, as previously stated, we should get back to the card. Have fun ya'll!
EDH DECKS
Currently under construction
MAGECRAFT STORM
-Veyran, Voice of Duality-
Protection from Degeneracy
Do not pray for an easy life. Pray for the strength to endure a difficult one.
Not really, just a thread going off the rails regarding the Forbes art of this character. I just found it kind of amusing that one person shouting down potentially bigoted ideas comes to this thread and immediately makes a comment that can be seen as nothing more than stirring the pot, really. Then, you have the neo-nazi comment. I don’t personally care if it’s true or not, but the fact is, it will encourage the use of similar “labels”.
Food Token :
, sacrifice this food,T: Gain 3 life.
just saying (before people find the rare spoiler for today, rare bird...)
Ugh, is that really all it is? Is the food an artifact, or some other permanent type?
I was hoping it would be modal, with sacrifice for either 2 life or a +1/+1 counter, or something like that.
Anyway, the card seems kinda great even without the +2. That +1 can do a lot of work. *Especially* in commander, where turning an opponent's commander into a 3/3 but leaving it on the battlefield is far better than just killing it.
Calling someone a neo-nazi is not hate speech.
The Fey are tricksters and do whatever they want. If he's templated after Dungeons and Dragons' Fey, he'll probably be more of a malicious prankster than just straight up evil. It'll also give him room to have more anti-hero moments if Wizards doesn't want to make him a villain through and through.
candidus inperti; si nil, his utere mecum.
~~~~~
Is the person in question actually a neo-nazi? Or do we just not agree with his views so we apply a label? Cuts both ways. Glad that’s what you got out of that, though.
Food, so far, isn’t very exciting.
Two Score, Minus Two or: A Stargate Tail
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A Food Token is an artifact with 2, T, sacrifice this token: gain 3 life.
candidus inperti; si nil, his utere mecum.
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But as his political views are very right wing and he has repeatedly associated and worked with white nationalists (even going to karaoke with Richard Spencer), yeah, I'm comfortable calling him at least Neo-Nazi adjacent.
I'm also comfortable calling him a paedophile and a swindler.
Can we go back to talking about Oko now?
Art is life itself.
Are you not familiar with who Milo Yiannopoulos is or something? Yes, he's a neo-Nazi. Not exactly a controversial statement like you're trying to make it out to be.
Anyway.
I see that Oko is not shapeshifting himself so much as other stuff. I think I would have liked that better than "food token." Still pretty decent.
Lol, I mean, sure. Shouldn’t have ventured to begin with, but, hey, I’m not the one who made the comment.
Art is life itself.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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This dude doesn't seem all that great to me, although turning some of your opponent's best creatures into vanilla 3/3s later in the game could be useful
Oko: Well, now it's a 3/3 that can attack and block. You're welcome.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Turn 1 Arboreal Grazer, turn 2 Oko & attack for 3 & have Oko @ 5 loyality.
Also good with the new goose.