This is pretty weak considering how much stronger the other Triumphs are (especially Nissa's). However, God-Eternal Kefnet does turn this into Ancestral Recall if you get lucky...
I mean, it's Divination. People will still play it.
Of course. The card isn't bad, it's just not up to snuff compared to the others in the cycle. It's perfectly playable.
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I don't get what the art is representing
Also shouldn't his triumph be him scoring with vraska?
Maybe liliana could join too. Man, that would be a real triumph.
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How i feel about competitive players and casual players in EDH: The competitive are german tourists, the casual are italian tourists, both in a italian beach. The italians asking themselves "why are the germans here?" make a legitimate question, the answer is because the beach is beautiful, no matter the country you came from. The italians wanting to ban the germans are dumb, because if the germans pay for their stay and follow the rules like everyone else, they have the right to be in the beach. Hovewer, if the germans started to ask themselves "why are the italians here?"... they would be dumb as hell.
Oh, Jace. Last time you went toe-to-toe with Bolas, you got curbstomped so badly that you woke up on a desert island a thousand planes away, unable even to remember your own name.
But yes, tell me more about how much better you are than Bolas, on principle.
Simple: Last time, he didn't use Bolas' power against him. Most likely by turning the Sparks into some form of trap. Oh, and there's also the fact the memory spell he cast on Vraska absolutely fooled Bolas. For that matter, Jace actually succeeded in breaking Bolas's mental barrier, if only for a moment, which is how he learned about Ixalan in the first place, allowing him to instintively walk there. Bolas has no idea Jace has been there the entire time. So, he's already outsmarted Bolas once. And he's about to do so twice, and hard.
Wasn't the planeswalk to Ixalan actually a failsafe that Ugin installed in Jace's mind to prevent Bolas from learning about him?
Okay, yes, that is correct. Ugin's the reason Jace planeswalked to Ixalan. So, one less point for the mind mage. But Ugin sure as heck isn't the one who successfully probed Bolas' mind and discovered the whole "invade Ravnica with Eternals, steal a bunch of planeswalker sparks and become a god" plan. And he isn't the one who modified Vraska's memory so skillfully that even Bolas didn't notice.
I think this is a case of "big idea" vs. "little details". Bolas has the big idea, but Jace notices the little details that lead to Bolas' undoing.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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It just shows that Bolas isn't as godly or omnipotent as he imagines himself to be especialyl with the trickery that took place up to this point on Ugin's behalf.
I really want to know how this ends. We're at that crucial tipping point in the leadup to the climax and, barring some sudden last-minute (anti-climatic) twist, where it goes from here.
Card is ok. I wouldn't bust a nut over it. Nice in limited but elsewhere it's a toss up.
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I don't get what the art is representing
Also shouldn't his triumph be him scoring with vraska?
Maybe liliana could join too. Man, that would be a real triumph.
Jace:"hey, Vraska you want to get stoned and do stuff?"
Vraska:. Not really, but I could get you stoned real good
Liliana: trying to score on either of us would be a grave mistake.
The next silver border set will have Jace's 'Splaining To Do with art that features a similar shot of Jace but with a very nervous expression on his face and the backdrop shows Liliana, Vraska, Lavinia, and Emmara angrily standing behind him.
Look Jace appears! The all-powerful God Dragon who spent years formulating a plan is about to hear "gotcha!!" lose all of it.
This could of have been so much more epic of an ending. Meh.
this isnt the ending though?
I like this card, drawing 3 for 3 mana is good. Dependent on how valuable a Jace planeswalker is to you though
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The true mind can weather all the lies and illusions without being lost. The true heart can tough the poison of hatred without being harmed. Since beginning-less time, darkness thrives in the void but always yields to purifying light.
I invision a future where one is not mighty when he can silence a crowd with brutality,
but when he leaves them speechless with wisdom.
I can just tell the gist of the ending. I could be wrong and I hope I am. A real plot twist would be Bolas doesn't lose, but he doesn't win either.
Also Ugin needs to show up already.
I'm pretty sure there's a reason we haven't seen a specific trio of walkers, yet.
Last we saw Sarkhan and Narset, they were bonding anew, Sarkhan being a temporal anomaly stuck out of time that Narset didn't remember, and could suddenly manipulate blue mana. But in this new future, Narset had sparked. So the pair went off to explore the multiverse together.
These two are also intimately tied to Ugin.
I would wager there's a very specific reason Ugin and the two walkers most closely tied to him outside of Bolas haven't shown up, yet.
And I would not be the least bit surprised if Sarkhan is not, in fact, a red walker, but a multicolor Izzet or Temur walker (despite what MaRo has said; he has a history of intentionally misleading). Sarkhan just so happens to fit between Role Reversal and Solar Blaze in the multicolor cards not yet revealed.
So I'm guessing this third act starts with Niv-Mizzet rising anew, Jace has unlocked the memories of Vraska again (thus why they're working together in the background of Contentious Plan and turned her against Bolas). But that, during next week's previews, Narset and Sarkhan show up together, confront Bolas, and when asked what they think they can do, they reveal that oh yeah... we also have your brother, here. Then Ugin appears at long last, and likely is the key piece of ending Bolas.
They've set up a final resolution between the elder dragon twins for a while, now.
But I'm guessing Ugin is the keystone of the final act, brought in by the pair of intimately linked walkers--to both one another and the spirit dragon--we haven't seen, yet.
I can just tell the gist of the ending. I could be wrong and I hope I am. A real plot twist would be Bolas doesn't lose, but he doesn't win either.
That was already the "twist" back in Alara block, with the Conflux War. It turns out that ambiguous, inconclusive showdowns don't usually make for satisfying endings.
Bolas needs a taste of true pain. After ten years, it's finally time to take this sucker out for good.
Anyway, Gideon and Liliana are the heroes of this finale, not Jace. Jace may play a major role in undermining Bolas's plot, but he won't be the one to strike the decisive blow.
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"I'd rather die speaking the truth than live a lie." --Gix, to Yawgmoth (pre-Phyrexia)
And I would not be the least bit surprised if Sarkhan is not, in fact, a red walker, but a multicolor Izzet or Temur walker (despite what MaRo has said; he has a history of intentionally misleading). Sarkhan just so happens to fit between Role Reversal and Solar Blaze in the multicolor cards not yet revealed.
Maro doesn't lie. He might not always be straightforward - he often can't due to the requirements of his job - but he does not deliberately give us false information. He said no tricolor besides Bolas, so there are no tricolors besides Bolas. He said rare gets five monocolor PWs and six multicolor, and Tamiyo has been revealed to be the sixth multicolor, leaving Sarkhan as the fifth monocolor, and thus red.
MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Jace: I think I've got a plan to defeat Bolas. Chandra: Does it involve thinking?
Jace: Lots.
So, Jace finds a way to turn Bolas' spark-stealing plan against him.
Bolas: YES! THE ABSOLUTE POWER! THE MULTIVERSE IS MINE TO COMMAND! TO CONTROL!
Jace: Not so fast, Bolas! Aren't you forgetting something!?
Bolas: WHAT?
Jace: You wanted to be a God? You got it!
*shackles appear over God-Bolas' wrists*
Bolas: WHAT!?
Jace: And everything that goes with it!
*suddenly, the Immortal Sun starts sucking Bolas in*
Bolas: NO! NOOOOOOOOOOO!
Jace: Phenomenal cosmic power...
*Bolas is trapped within the Immortal Sun*
Jace:...itty bitty living space.
Wow, turns out I got pretty close. The living space ain't quite so itty-bitty, but neither is Bolas' power phenomenal, or cosmic.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Oh, Jace. Last time you went toe-to-toe with Bolas, you got curbstomped so badly that you woke up on a desert island a thousand planes away, unable even to remember your own name.
But yes, tell me more about how much better you are than Bolas, on principle.
I penetrated Bolas' memory defenses just long enough to learn his plan in the first place.
Jace: For all his intellect and all his power, in the end Bolas still got outsmarted by a college-age mind mage, his meddling friends, and their dog. He's trapped in his meditation realm now, I'm not. Need I say more?
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MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
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Of course. The card isn't bad, it's just not up to snuff compared to the others in the cycle. It's perfectly playable.
Also shouldn't his triumph be him scoring with vraska?
Maybe liliana could join too. Man, that would be a real triumph.
Okay, yes, that is correct. Ugin's the reason Jace planeswalked to Ixalan. So, one less point for the mind mage. But Ugin sure as heck isn't the one who successfully probed Bolas' mind and discovered the whole "invade Ravnica with Eternals, steal a bunch of planeswalker sparks and become a god" plan. And he isn't the one who modified Vraska's memory so skillfully that even Bolas didn't notice.
I think this is a case of "big idea" vs. "little details". Bolas has the big idea, but Jace notices the little details that lead to Bolas' undoing.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
I really want to know how this ends. We're at that crucial tipping point in the leadup to the climax and, barring some sudden last-minute (anti-climatic) twist, where it goes from here.
Card is ok. I wouldn't bust a nut over it. Nice in limited but elsewhere it's a toss up.
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Jace:"hey, Vraska you want to get stoned and do stuff?"
Vraska:. Not really, but I could get you stoned real good
Liliana: trying to score on either of us would be a grave mistake.
Sorry, could not help myself.
This could of have been so much more epic of an ending. Meh.
this isnt the ending though?
I like this card, drawing 3 for 3 mana is good. Dependent on how valuable a Jace planeswalker is to you though
I invision a future where one is not mighty when he can silence a crowd with brutality,
but when he leaves them speechless with wisdom.
Why Jace’s description is similar to how Kai got defeated/killed in kung fu panda 3
Funny enough oogway said something similar in the movie
“When will you realize? the more you take, the less you have.”
Also Ugin needs to show up already.
That looks to be what the flavor text on this Triumph seems to indicate happens.
I'm pretty sure there's a reason we haven't seen a specific trio of walkers, yet.
Last we saw Sarkhan and Narset, they were bonding anew, Sarkhan being a temporal anomaly stuck out of time that Narset didn't remember, and could suddenly manipulate blue mana. But in this new future, Narset had sparked. So the pair went off to explore the multiverse together.
These two are also intimately tied to Ugin.
I would wager there's a very specific reason Ugin and the two walkers most closely tied to him outside of Bolas haven't shown up, yet.
And I would not be the least bit surprised if Sarkhan is not, in fact, a red walker, but a multicolor Izzet or Temur walker (despite what MaRo has said; he has a history of intentionally misleading). Sarkhan just so happens to fit between Role Reversal and Solar Blaze in the multicolor cards not yet revealed.
So I'm guessing this third act starts with Niv-Mizzet rising anew, Jace has unlocked the memories of Vraska again (thus why they're working together in the background of Contentious Plan and turned her against Bolas). But that, during next week's previews, Narset and Sarkhan show up together, confront Bolas, and when asked what they think they can do, they reveal that oh yeah... we also have your brother, here. Then Ugin appears at long last, and likely is the key piece of ending Bolas.
They've set up a final resolution between the elder dragon twins for a while, now.
But I'm guessing Ugin is the keystone of the final act, brought in by the pair of intimately linked walkers--to both one another and the spirit dragon--we haven't seen, yet.
That was already the "twist" back in Alara block, with the Conflux War. It turns out that ambiguous, inconclusive showdowns don't usually make for satisfying endings.
Bolas needs a taste of true pain. After ten years, it's finally time to take this sucker out for good.
Anyway, Gideon and Liliana are the heroes of this finale, not Jace. Jace may play a major role in undermining Bolas's plot, but he won't be the one to strike the decisive blow.
Maro doesn't lie. He might not always be straightforward - he often can't due to the requirements of his job - but he does not deliberately give us false information. He said no tricolor besides Bolas, so there are no tricolors besides Bolas. He said rare gets five monocolor PWs and six multicolor, and Tamiyo has been revealed to be the sixth multicolor, leaving Sarkhan as the fifth monocolor, and thus red.
There are also two slots between Samut's Sprint and Spellgorger Weird. Perfect for Sarkhan and Sarkhan's spell.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Wow, turns out I got pretty close. The living space ain't quite so itty-bitty, but neither is Bolas' power phenomenal, or cosmic.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Jace: I'll write a list for you.
Jace: For all his intellect and all his power, in the end Bolas still got outsmarted by a college-age mind mage, his meddling friends, and their dog. He's trapped in his meditation realm now, I'm not. Need I say more?
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.