Unless Nahiri is somehow more vital to the story, I agree.
Also the issue I have with these cards, is that they almost look like the cheap, janky renders from MtGO, but the set icons of some look like they are from Commander 2017 while some look like Commander Anthology Volume II.
Hm as i recall the stream talked about 3 mythic walkers, obviosly not counting the BAB Tezzeret, perhaps mark included him in his count?
ANd yeah people calling this fake from misintepreting the "we are not using the stained glass art" quote is idotic when its so obvious they meant they dont use the effect not the source artwork it was based on
Well, if all walkers in the set use the stained glass arts, shouldn't the mythic edition Gideon have another artwork?
Also I would have expected Domri to be uncommon, like the other guild-leading walkers that were spoiled so far...
That, combined with the image quality makes me sceptical, but we'll see
There's a lot of assumptions in here:
1.) The stained glass arts were confirmed to be stained glass versions of art of the cards, but not necessarily the ones in the set. It's certainly possible some are from the Mythic Edition.
2.) We have no pattern established on the guild leader walkers. We've seen four uncommons officially spoiled: Vraska, Obby, Arlinn, and Tibalt.
3.) These have a bunch of pros in their favor, like the fact that they have Gideon as a 4 slot walker before MaRo confirmed him as a mythic, and also that they have the non-stained glass arts.
If there are 4 mythic walker and Karn is rare I would actually guess that Ugin is uncommon.
This math is wrong. It was confirmed in panel that there are 20 Uncommon walkers, 13 Rare walkers, and 3 Mythic walkers, as well as Tezzeret as a promo. Bolas is also the only three color Planeswalker.
MaRo confirmed the Uncommons are two of each mono color, plus 1 of each two color hybrid mana pair.
If this is real (I’m it is since it includes cards that have been confirmed such as Ajani, Jace, and Liliana and flavor wise Nicol Bolas makes sense given he’s out to steal sparks and his static ability shows that) then we have already seen:
All 4 Mythic Rare walkers
9/13 Rare walkers
That means we’d only have 4 more Rare walkers and the rest as Uncommon. I’m guessing the Rare and Mythics play a bigger role storywise than the Uncommon walkers (which doesn’t make sense considering although I do see Ral having a bigger role in story with Niv Mizzet I cant see Sorin or Dormi having a big role unless they make a big move with guilds). With this logic my guess is Ugin, Jaya, Dovin, and maybe the new shield mage as the last rares.
That said if no one puts it together this week I can see about getting a number crunch up when I get time. It’ll be an interesting spoiler season to say the least!
Edit: actually Kaya would probably get the rare spot more than Dovin. She’s on the cover of the novel so she’ll probably get more story time.
If this is real (I’m it is since it includes cards that have been confirmed such as Ajani, Jace, and Liliana and flavor wise Nicol Bolas makes sense given he’s out to steal sparks and his static ability shows that) then we have already seen:
All 4 Mythic Rare walkers
9/13 Rare walkers
That means we’d only have 4 more Rare walkers and the rest as Uncommon. I’m guessing the Rare and Mythics play a bigger role storywise than the Uncommon walkers (which doesn’t make sense considering although I do see Ral having a bigger role in story with Niv Mizzet I cant see Sorin or Dormi having a big role unless they make a big move with guilds). With this logic my guess is Ugin, Jaya, Dovin, and maybe the new shield mage as the last rares.
That said if no one puts it together this week I can see about getting a number crunch up when I get time. It’ll be an interesting spoiler season to say the least!
Dovin is almost assuredly the U/W hybrid Uncommon, given that we have Teferi at Rare. Jaya also makes sense as an Uncommon because of Chandra.
Holy WOW. A WUBRG Niv-Mizzet!? Well, there's the WUBRG Gates Commander we've all been waiting for. Wait, "color pair" is a game term now!? Ohhh, that has potential. And HOLY ELDER DRAGON CRAP Bolas has all loyalty abilities of all planeswalkers on the battlefield, and his ultimate makes you LOSE THE GAME if you don't control a legendary creature or planeswalker.
They made Gideon's creature mode into a static ability! I love that! I also love the cleverness with Chandra's loyalty removal trigger. Remember Heart of Kiran?
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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Teferi and Gideon for the Win. Even Lab Man Jace. A good day if you like Azorius. 4 Walkers for Teferi and 3 out of 4 are Good with the bad one being a normal planeswalker deck crap walker.
Gideon and Teferi look to be the most busted cards in this pile
I still dont really get the Niv Mizzet ability fully.
As far as i read it it would mean that i need to hit 2 or more cards of the same color in these 10 cards and then get to pick one of them that is not multicolor for my hand?
I still dont really get the Niv Mizzet ability fully.
As far as i read it it would mean that i need to hit 2 or more cards of the same color in these 10 cards and then get to pick one of them that is not multicolor for my hand?
You look at the top ten. Pick from among them cards that are exactly each of the ten two color pairs. Put them into your hand. effectively he could draw you 10 cards.
By god people I get it. I made a mistake. I hadn't looked at the stained glass arts in quite a while so I didn't notice that the revealed ones were just the stained glass arts without the stained glass effects and the Bolas one, in that small image looked like it was exactly the stained glass art. It's not necessary for half a dozen people to point it out. Thank you.
Are you sure? I could make a few posts repeating what's already been said if you want.
This math is wrong. It was confirmed in panel that there are 20 Uncommon walkers, 13 Rare walkers, and 3 Mythic walkers, as well as Tezzeret as a promo. Bolas is also the only three color Planeswalker.
MaRo confirmed the Uncommons are two of each mono color, plus 1 of each two color hybrid mana pair.
Ugin is 100% a Rare if he's still colorless.
Oh, I did not know that thank you for pointing that out to me. I did not know that.
Ugin was confirmed to be colorless by Maro not a while back, so rare it is.
The break down of the 11 colored rare walker will be kind of odd. I am interested how this will look in the end.
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Unless Nahiri is somehow more vital to the story, I agree.
Also the issue I have with these cards, is that they almost look like the cheap, janky renders from MtGO, but the set icons of some look like they are from Commander 2017 while some look like Commander Anthology Volume II.
Hm as i recall the stream talked about 3 mythic walkers, obviosly not counting the BAB Tezzeret, perhaps mark included him in his count?
ANd yeah people calling this fake from misintepreting the "we are not using the stained glass art" quote is idotic when its so obvious they meant they dont use the effect not the source artwork it was based on
There are three in the set (Bolas, Lili, Gideon) and then Tezzeret as the Buy a Box mythic. Four.
- Main Cube
- No Brains, All Feelings Cube
It does look a like like The Ur-Dragon art. Maybe, that's why it looks familiar.
3th is probably Ugin, Gideon is a promo from the expensive whale milking product , in which they are all mythic rare.
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Nope. MaRo has confirmed Gideon is a Mythic. Ugin is an Uncommon or Rare.
- Main Cube
- No Brains, All Feelings Cube
Also I would have expected Domri to be uncommon, like the other guild-leading walkers that were spoiled so far...
That, combined with the image quality makes me sceptical, but we'll see
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UBR Becket Brass - take what you can, give nothing back UBR
There's a lot of assumptions in here:
1.) The stained glass arts were confirmed to be stained glass versions of art of the cards, but not necessarily the ones in the set. It's certainly possible some are from the Mythic Edition.
2.) We have no pattern established on the guild leader walkers. We've seen four uncommons officially spoiled: Vraska, Obby, Arlinn, and Tibalt.
3.) These have a bunch of pros in their favor, like the fact that they have Gideon as a 4 slot walker before MaRo confirmed him as a mythic, and also that they have the non-stained glass arts.
- Main Cube
- No Brains, All Feelings Cube
uncommon: 5 mono + 10 hybrid colors
rare: 5 mono + 10 two colors
colorless: 2 cards (Ugin + Karn)
mythic: 4 cards
BaB: Tezzert
Makes 36 + 1 Walker.
If there are 4 mythic walker and Karn is rare I would actually guess that Ugin is uncommon.
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This math is wrong. It was confirmed in panel that there are 20 Uncommon walkers, 13 Rare walkers, and 3 Mythic walkers, as well as Tezzeret as a promo. Bolas is also the only three color Planeswalker.
MaRo confirmed the Uncommons are two of each mono color, plus 1 of each two color hybrid mana pair.
Ugin is 100% a Rare if he's still colorless.
- Main Cube
- No Brains, All Feelings Cube
I'm interested to see what happened to Niv but might have to build 5c commander
All 4 Mythic Rare walkers
9/13 Rare walkers
That means we’d only have 4 more Rare walkers and the rest as Uncommon. I’m guessing the Rare and Mythics play a bigger role storywise than the Uncommon walkers (which doesn’t make sense considering although I do see Ral having a bigger role in story with Niv Mizzet I cant see Sorin or Dormi having a big role unless they make a big move with guilds). With this logic my guess is Ugin, Jaya, Dovin, and maybe the new shield mage as the last rares.
That said if no one puts it together this week I can see about getting a number crunch up when I get time. It’ll be an interesting spoiler season to say the least!
Edit: actually Kaya would probably get the rare spot more than Dovin. She’s on the cover of the novel so she’ll probably get more story time.
Dovin is almost assuredly the U/W hybrid Uncommon, given that we have Teferi at Rare. Jaya also makes sense as an Uncommon because of Chandra.
- Main Cube
- No Brains, All Feelings Cube
Actually there something funny about it
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lol
They made Gideon's creature mode into a static ability! I love that! I also love the cleverness with Chandra's loyalty removal trigger. Remember Heart of Kiran?
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Gideon and Teferi look to be the most busted cards in this pile
As far as i read it it would mean that i need to hit 2 or more cards of the same color in these 10 cards and then get to pick one of them that is not multicolor for my hand?
You look at the top ten. Pick from among them cards that are exactly each of the ten two color pairs. Put them into your hand. effectively he could draw you 10 cards.
Yes, I notice it too, a lovely note, perhaps it will appear again here? (same vehicle different name)
So this very much confirmed that Bolas is trying to steal all sparks, hence his static ability.
Niv-Mizzet return with a vengeance, he's now like the embodiment of Ravnica's past. Perhaps Jace passed him the Guildpact before he dies?
How did Sorin escape, anyway?
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Oh, I did not know that thank you for pointing that out to me. I did not know that.
Ugin was confirmed to be colorless by Maro not a while back, so rare it is.
The break down of the 11 colored rare walker will be kind of odd. I am interested how this will look in the end.
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