I really don't like Jason Rainville's art style. Dack and Domri look so cartoonish. He's also the one who did Sunder shaman, looks like a dwarf instead of a giant.
I feel like dack fayden will be the most valuable one out of the box by a long stretch. His og pack foil hit a high of 400 usd, only dropping severly when he was reprinted in a masters set. The og foil is about 150. This is "more" pimp and its a vintage and edh staple, and legacy playable.
I think he will retail higher then masterpiece teferi
Teferi sees play as a 4x in multiple top Standard decks and is the lifeblood card of all UW-based control in Modern. Dack only sees minor to moderate play in Commander, Legacy, and Vintage. Two of those formats see little to no meaningful play in paper. No way this is as much as Teferi now, but might be post-rotation.
I wouldn't say they are bad, they just feel like...oversaturation? Would that be the right word? Like it makes my eyes reflexively squint looking at the colors on them.
Well these knock off two of the those planeswalkers arts from the poster, just the Jace, Liliana, Karn and Garruk arts left.
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Kaladesh might well be heaven for Daretti. There he can gain respect and recognition for his work.
I'd like to see Dack in a world full of Pirates, be that Ixalan or someplace else.
Domri reminds me of the European box art for Mega Man. He's got that same "whooping monkey" mouth.
Am I the only one who thinks Karn looks like he's doing that thing some girls do, where they drape their hands over their breasts? Like Charlotte in Fire Emblem Fates, for example.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Eh, going to pass on these. And given the paucity of the others on Arena, pretty much annoyed that they aren't available on that platform.
Hard pass, though it's nice we can get planeswalker decks on Arena, and drafts. Will definitely be wanting to get some of those codes.
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I don't think I will ever be unable to see the fact that Karn is just flat out standing there, and rubbing his nipples.
Can't unsee it now. For my cube, I was hoping for Karn to have better this time around but this feels bland, almost like a golem token. I will have to settle for the DOM version.
* Sorin is sealed into stone.
* Elspeth is still dead.
* Tamiyo said she didn't want to do Gatewatch stuff because of her encounter with Emrakul.
* Dack Fayden and Daretti have no good reason of being there.
But it will probably be an 8 vs 8 on Ravnica.
* Nicol Bolas
with his 2 lieutenants
* Tezzeret
* Liliana Vess
and the 5 turned guild leader
* Ral Zarek
* Dovin Baan
* Vraska
* Domri Rade
* Kaya
and on the Gatewatch side:
* Gideon Jura (with his new trusty Blackblade)
* Jace Beleren
* Chandra Nalaar
* Ajani Goldmane
* Teferi
assisted by 3 of these people
* Karn
* Jaya Ballard
* Vivien Reid
* Nissa Revane
* Ugin
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God, I hate that. Always have. I will never, ever understand why WOTC insists on printing foil-only versions of promo art. Not only do they curl, but the foil utterly destroys the integrity of the art and just makes it that much harder to see. I still hate that I can't get a non-foil O-Kagachi or Edgar Markov, and I hate that alt-art promos like these are almost invariably foils.
If these weren't foil, I might actually look to buy a couple on the secondary market. As it is, I'm just annoyed and uninterested.
* Sorin is sealed into stone.
* Elspeth is still dead.
* Tamiyo said she didn't want to do Gatewatch stuff because of her encounter with Emrakul.
* Dack Fayden and Daretti have no good reason of being there.
But it will probably be an 8 vs 8 on Ravnica.
* Nicol Bolas
with his 2 lieutenants
* Tezzeret
* Liliana Vess
and the 5 turned guild leader
* Ral Zarek
* Dovin Baan
* Vraska
* Domri Rade
* Kaya
and on the Gatewatch side:
* Gideon Jura (with his new trusty Blackblade)
* Jace Beleren
* Chandra Nalaar
* Ajani Goldmane
* Teferi
assisted by 3 of these people
* Karn
* Jaya Ballard
* Vivien Reid
* Nissa Revane
* Ugin
The novel cover shows Kaya on Gideon's side (because of course she can't be a bad guy), along with a new walker.
Hell if I were to bet, Tezzeret is the only one who'll be on Bolas' side after he closes the plane with the Immortal Sun, and only because he can leave thanks to being the living planar portal, unlike everyone else.
I'm also dissapointed they're putting Bolas in a bus before we got to see Ramaz, one of his three original magic hobos, do anything at all.
Not even remotely worth its asking price of 250$.
And the artwork is ugly as sin , its like they rushed this out quickly, simply to have something to sell.
To be fair, Tamiyo looks great, at least 1.
Wonder who will buy this iteration , its a total failure already ...
They will push these out every set as long as they can make easy money with them ...
Didn’t they learn there lesson just before ultimate masters
They learned that this ***** sells out immediately even if it's exclusivelly to hoarders.
The problem is when you have products like this you're segmenting the population of Magic players into the Haves and the Have Not's even more than before with Guilds of Ravnica: Mythic Edition. That's very dangerous to do in a Trading Card Game / Collectible Card Game. This is the type of cash grab you only see when a company isn't doing financially well, otherwise there's no need for Wizards of the Coast / Hasbro to destroy their Expected Value (EV) in regards to their Mythic Planeswalkers which are no longer exciting to pull because there's a much better version that If you have enough money you're guaranteed to purchase it.
So why risk pulling the regular version which is worse in many ways? It doesn't make any sense as to why they continue to do this. By having a higher buy in they're limiting the amount of product they can sell by limiting the amount of people who can buy the product. Overall it's a terrible concept and I'm not sure it could've been resolved with the way Ultimate Masters was distributed through box toppers. I do think box toppers are a bit of a grey area in terms of distribution since it becomes more a physical loot box ordeal where there's not much luck involved since you're already guaranteed a Mythic Planeswalker from that box topper anyway.
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Tamiyo and Kaya look good. Kayas AW is a bit dark overall though, so it'll probably look terrible in foil. The rest of the AWs are just flat-out worse than the regular ones. That weird pose and perspective on Karn, that silly expression on Domri … blech.
Oh I expect half of Bolas' allies to switch sides. Kaya, Ral, Vraska and Gideon will probably find a way to save Lilli. Honestly I want to have a love story between Gideon and Lilli.
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Given what we learned from that experience and the (mountains of) feedback we received, we're changing things up for this round.
You mean all of the feedback you got BEFORE the set even came out? When the entire community told you that the Hasbro site would crash and lose people's orders and double- or triple-charge people's credit cards, and then everything happened just as the players told you it would?
And only THEN did you say "Whoops, well that was unexpected!"?
The problem with defining this format by what is "fun" is that everyone seems to define fun as what they don't lose to. If you keep losing to easily answered cards, that means you should improve your deck. If you don't want to improve your deck, then you should come to peace with the idea that you are going to lose because you chose to not interact with better strategies.
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UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
I think he will retail higher then masterpiece teferi
UR ....... WUBR ........... WB ............. RGW ........ UBR ....... WUB .... BGU
Spells / Blink & Combo / Token Grind / Dino Tribal / Draw Cards / Zombies / Reanimate
the arts are bland. the choices for walkers are bland. hard pass. next money grab product please.
JundBGR
RW Blood MoonRW
Pauper
Delver U
Elves G
Control B
Commander
Edgar Markov BRW
Captain Sisay GW
Niv-Mizzet, Parun UR
Tymna and Ravos WB
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I'd like to see Dack in a world full of Pirates, be that Ixalan or someplace else.
Domri reminds me of the European box art for Mega Man. He's got that same "whooping monkey" mouth.
Am I the only one who thinks Karn looks like he's doing that thing some girls do, where they drape their hands over their breasts? Like Charlotte in Fire Emblem Fates, for example.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Hard pass, though it's nice we can get planeswalker decks on Arena, and drafts. Will definitely be wanting to get some of those codes.
Currently focusing on Pre-Modern (Mono-Black Discard Control) and Modern (Azorious Control, Temur Rhinos).
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Can't unsee it now. For my cube, I was hoping for Karn to have better this time around but this feels bland, almost like a golem token. I will have to settle for the DOM version.
Tamiyo art is great, though.
* Sorin is sealed into stone.
* Elspeth is still dead.
* Tamiyo said she didn't want to do Gatewatch stuff because of her encounter with Emrakul.
* Dack Fayden and Daretti have no good reason of being there.
But it will probably be an 8 vs 8 on Ravnica.
* Nicol Bolas
with his 2 lieutenants
* Tezzeret
* Liliana Vess
and the 5 turned guild leader
* Ral Zarek
* Dovin Baan
* Vraska
* Domri Rade
* Kaya
and on the Gatewatch side:
* Gideon Jura (with his new trusty Blackblade)
* Jace Beleren
* Chandra Nalaar
* Ajani Goldmane
* Teferi
assisted by 3 of these people
* Karn
* Jaya Ballard
* Vivien Reid
* Nissa Revane
* Ugin
Hands to the sky
Give a round of applause
For the great Miss Y!
God, I hate that. Always have. I will never, ever understand why WOTC insists on printing foil-only versions of promo art. Not only do they curl, but the foil utterly destroys the integrity of the art and just makes it that much harder to see. I still hate that I can't get a non-foil O-Kagachi or Edgar Markov, and I hate that alt-art promos like these are almost invariably foils.
If these weren't foil, I might actually look to buy a couple on the secondary market. As it is, I'm just annoyed and uninterested.
Hell if I were to bet, Tezzeret is the only one who'll be on Bolas' side after he closes the plane with the Immortal Sun, and only because he can leave thanks to being the living planar portal, unlike everyone else.
I'm also dissapointed they're putting Bolas in a bus before we got to see Ramaz, one of his three original magic hobos, do anything at all.
And the artwork is ugly as sin , its like they rushed this out quickly, simply to have something to sell.
To be fair, Tamiyo looks great, at least 1.
Wonder who will buy this iteration , its a total failure already ...
They will push these out every set as long as they can make easy money with them ...
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Also very weird they excluded Dovin
W(W/U)U Ephara - Flash & Taxes W(W/U)U || B(B/G)G Meren - Circle of Life B(B/G)G
RGW Marath - Ever shifting Wilds RGW || (U/R)C(W/B) Breya - Artificial Dominion (U/R)C(W/B)
UBR Becket Brass - take what you can, give nothing back UBR
So why risk pulling the regular version which is worse in many ways? It doesn't make any sense as to why they continue to do this. By having a higher buy in they're limiting the amount of product they can sell by limiting the amount of people who can buy the product. Overall it's a terrible concept and I'm not sure it could've been resolved with the way Ultimate Masters was distributed through box toppers. I do think box toppers are a bit of a grey area in terms of distribution since it becomes more a physical loot box ordeal where there's not much luck involved since you're already guaranteed a Mythic Planeswalker from that box topper anyway.
"Restriction breeds creativity." - Sheldon Menery on EDH / Commander in Magic: The Gathering
"Cancel Culture is the real reason why everyone's not allowed to have nice things anymore." - Anonymous
"For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?" - Mark 8:36
"Most men and women will grow up to love their servitude and will never dream of revolution." - Aldous Huxley, Brave New World
"Every life decision is always a risk / reward proposition." - Sanjay Gupta
Hands to the sky
Give a round of applause
For the great Miss Y!
You mean all of the feedback you got BEFORE the set even came out? When the entire community told you that the Hasbro site would crash and lose people's orders and double- or triple-charge people's credit cards, and then everything happened just as the players told you it would?
And only THEN did you say "Whoops, well that was unexpected!"?