So you run it in decks where your deck was built to profit from a symmetrical boardwipe. Like, say, Afterlife. Or Undying.
But very few of those decks would prefer to blow up their whole board over just keeping the creatures and swinging in with them... And if you are introducing undying, you are now looking at formats that have Wrath of God/Day of Judgment/Supreme Verdict/Terminus.... and this card doesnt come close to those cards in power...
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Works really well in the afterlife archetype. Get rid of everything, gain life and make your guys flyers.
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In the right deck, this is Day of Judgment with an upside. Yes, you're not going to build around the lifegain. The lifegain just means that you're sometimes also going to gain 2-4 random life off of utility creatures (that may have etb effects and thus already did their job), tokens etc.
Edit: Regarding the artwork, it seems like Kaya is doing a bit of a Yondu-impression here with the "energy needle".
So you run it in decks where your deck was built to profit from a symmetrical boardwipe. Like, say, Afterlife. Or Undying.
But very few of those decks would prefer to blow up their whole board over just keeping the creatures and swinging in with them... And if you are introducing undying, you are now looking at formats that have Wrath of God/Day of Judgment/Supreme Verdict/Terminus.... and this card doesnt come close to those cards in power...
A card is not typically designed with other formats in mind. If it good in Modern or Legacy, then that is just a bonus. This card will see play in standard in the obvious Orzhov control or Esper control decks. The land makes this viable. You probably aren't wanting to cast this one on curve per say. I see it more of lets jam up the board with little guys early. Wipe the board then proceed to play win cons and go into spot removal. All things Esper or Ozhov do very well.
Can't wait to set up the monster turns of Divine Visitation with Afterlife creatures into this.
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Same. I posted in the new cards discussion for standard a WB afterlife tokens list that I think I’m definitely going to plan on trying out. A 1 cmc and 3 cmc afterlife creature is what I’m hoping we get this week as that would make the curve really good. Costly Plunder to draw cards. Midnight Reaper to draw cards, Divine Visitation and Seraph of the Scales at he top of your curve with some mortify’s and this and it could be a fun deck.
It's a rough one on the mana but it's still a straight up 4 mana counter which we haven't seen since what supreme verdict? Everything else at 4cmc (or less) has been conditional in some way.
I am very concerned that standard will be dominated by turn 4 wrath, turn 5 teferi tuck or +1 and hold up that 2 mana mini mana leak.
that name is like wizards is not even trying anymore
card is ok for standard. Rip the ghost concil bye one of the cool things that defined ravnica. Maybe bye ravnica, hope u rip
We've been saying that for years. The name's not as unimaginative as Sisay's Ingenuity though.
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i mean, putting the wrath in the name looks like only a call back to wrath effects, when in reality i don't think u would be wrathfull at killing ghosts u don't even know.
Like for me it is in the same level as if they did "Chandra's bolt - 1R - instant - Deals 3 damage to any target. if the target is a creature Scry 1" or if they did "Jace's Anticipation - UU - instant - Look at the top three cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order. Draw a card "
i mean, it is not bad, but they could have made it better as it is not a random shaft common-uncommon but a story spotlight card.
You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
Yep. The life gain isn't important for most decks that will run this.
Four mana unconditional board wipe. Tough on the mana or not it's nice to have the option in standard.
it's really colour intensive, I'm interested to see if the life gain mode will be relevant or if cleansing nova or settle the wreckage will still be better non damage based wraths
Settle requires them to attack, only hits said attackers, and gets stopped by player hexproof which is surprisingly more common than one would think.
Nova has a nice extra mode but 5 mana vs 4 mana is a meaningful difference.
I by no means would say this is an obvious replacement for any of our current board wipes but it does have a nitch all its own.
Good to see unconditional 4 cmc board wipes again and I must say in a way it's cleverly designed. The lifegain part is for the most part not that relevant.
But the thing is most decks that want to run cards like in the maindeck are blue so you are immediately in 3 colors and WWBB is no joke. Obviously often your life depends on casting your wrath and if you then also want to run stuff like Absorb and Thought Erasure in the deck I can imagine you will lose a certain percentage of games simply because you were unable to cast all your spells in time.
I know a lot of people are excited for Esper. Im personally an Esper fanboy too but Jeskai still has tools that have no competition and it gains new stuff too like Electrodominance so it will be interesting to see how things turn out.
Yup and from the art book once Kaya isn't forced to be guildmaster by Bolas, Teysa will most likely take over.
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Good to see unconditional 4 cmc board wipes again and I must say in a way it's cleverly designed. The lifegain part is for the most part not that relevant.
But the thing is most decks that want to run cards like in the maindeck are blue so you are immediately in 3 colors and WWBB is no joke. Obviously often your life depends on casting your wrath and if you then also want to run stuff like Absorb and Thought Erasure in the deck I can imagine you will lose a certain percentage of games simply because you were unable to cast all your spells in time.
I know a lot of people are excited for Esper. Im personally an Esper fanboy too but Jeskai still has tools that have no competition and it gains new stuff too like Electrodominance so it will be interesting to see how things turn out.
I think orzhov can be a solid control deck. Better than Esper because of less mana constraints
card is ok for standard. Rip the ghost concil bye one of the cool things that defined ravnica. Maybe bye ravnica, hope u rip
But very few of those decks would prefer to blow up their whole board over just keeping the creatures and swinging in with them... And if you are introducing undying, you are now looking at formats that have Wrath of God/Day of Judgment/Supreme Verdict/Terminus.... and this card doesnt come close to those cards in power...
This aint your girlfriends meta! This is a man's meta! TURBO META.
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Come to think of it, I was also about to put a death-trigger-doubler in the set too, but realized it doesn't mesh well with Undying, my WB mechanic.
WotC is copying me waaaaaaaaa!
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Edit: Regarding the artwork, it seems like Kaya is doing a bit of a Yondu-impression here with the "energy needle".
A card is not typically designed with other formats in mind. If it good in Modern or Legacy, then that is just a bonus. This card will see play in standard in the obvious Orzhov control or Esper control decks. The land makes this viable. You probably aren't wanting to cast this one on curve per say. I see it more of lets jam up the board with little guys early. Wipe the board then proceed to play win cons and go into spot removal. All things Esper or Ozhov do very well.
We've been saying that for years. The name's not as unimaginative as Sisay's Ingenuity though.
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Same. I posted in the new cards discussion for standard a WB afterlife tokens list that I think I’m definitely going to plan on trying out. A 1 cmc and 3 cmc afterlife creature is what I’m hoping we get this week as that would make the curve really good. Costly Plunder to draw cards. Midnight Reaper to draw cards, Divine Visitation and Seraph of the Scales at he top of your curve with some mortify’s and this and it could be a fun deck.
Or Gerrard's Wisdom...
That's weird--you misspelled "Mardu".
I am very concerned that standard will be dominated by turn 4 wrath, turn 5 teferi tuck or +1 and hold up that 2 mana mini mana leak.
i mean, putting the wrath in the name looks like only a call back to wrath effects, when in reality i don't think u would be wrathfull at killing ghosts u don't even know.
Like for me it is in the same level as if they did "Chandra's bolt - 1R - instant - Deals 3 damage to any target. if the target is a creature Scry 1" or if they did "Jace's Anticipation - UU - instant - Look at the top three cards of your library. Put one of them into your hand and the rest on the bottom of your library in any order. Draw a card "
i mean, it is not bad, but they could have made it better as it is not a random shaft common-uncommon but a story spotlight card.
So happy to see Teysa get her revenge as always.
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Four mana unconditional board wipe. Tough on the mana or not it's nice to have the option in standard.
Nova has a nice extra mode but 5 mana vs 4 mana is a meaningful difference.
I by no means would say this is an obvious replacement for any of our current board wipes but it does have a nitch all its own.
But the thing is most decks that want to run cards like in the maindeck are blue so you are immediately in 3 colors and WWBB is no joke. Obviously often your life depends on casting your wrath and if you then also want to run stuff like Absorb and Thought Erasure in the deck I can imagine you will lose a certain percentage of games simply because you were unable to cast all your spells in time.
I know a lot of people are excited for Esper. Im personally an Esper fanboy too but Jeskai still has tools that have no competition and it gains new stuff too like Electrodominance so it will be interesting to see how things turn out.
Yup and from the art book once Kaya isn't forced to be guildmaster by Bolas, Teysa will most likely take over.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
I think orzhov can be a solid control deck. Better than Esper because of less mana constraints
This is the straw that broke the camel’s back on the cost of a mana base?
This?
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