Cast this at pre-release naming island. Watch your opponent be unable to cast his niv-mizzet.
Playing, name a basic land type could mana screw your opponent. Could also do mostly nothing.
Remember it's capped at 4 copies. Naming a basic land type doesn't do as much as you think.
At a prerelease with 40 card decks, 4 instances of a basic land will often be the majority of the lands in a deck's secondary color. A 10/7 or 11/6 split wouldn't be unusual, and poaching 4 of the 6 or 7 islands in a Ru deck could leave them a few dead cards.
Cast this at pre-release naming island. Watch your opponent be unable to cast his niv-mizzet.
Playing, name a basic land type could mana screw your opponent. Could also do mostly nothing.
Remember it's capped at 4 copies. Naming a basic land type doesn't do as much as you think.
It would hinder Nivvy, he's too weighted.
In a average manabase they'd have 8-9 Islands? Dropping that down to 4-5 early will make getting there harder. (Depending on if they have color fixing in deck, or if they splashed a third color, naturally.) Not the best play, but it might be a good sideboard if they have a bomb they seem to rely on.
Yeah, hitting lands off this is scary. It'll often not be correct, but it means that, for instance, a matchup against 5C Humans in Modern where they kept a questionable hand on the draw suddenly causes them to just lose if you slam this turn 3 naming Cavern of Souls. Or in sealed, naming a basic land suddenly means the opponent is unlikely to hit their end game and may get color hosed.
Again, usually its going to be correct to name anything else but in their desire to hate on Tron even more, they've created a VERY unfun card.
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At rare it won't make much of an impact in Limited but for Standard...for Standard I can see using a full set of these to remove your opponent's primary win condition on turn 3 then their secondary win condition (presuming they have one) a few turns later. Allowing your opponent to draw cards means nothing if they cannot beat you with what they are drawing. By turn 5 you can always use Thought Erasure first to see whether the card you want to name is in their hand.
This doesn't exile either. So you can Mission Briefing and Flood of Recollection this over and over and over until you've axed all their useful lands and win conditions.
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Couldn't this card be somewhat obnoxious against mono-color decks relying on basic lands?
I know wizards jumped through hoops to template this extraction effect in a way that would be versatile but not broken for its intended effects- it can hit nonbasic lands, it can get the cards from basically anywhere, but its replacing them from their hand- but if you could reliably cast this on turn 2 somehow, or at least turn 3 on the play, you could simply choose "mountain" against a red deck like blood moon, and then take all the lands out of their hand and let them draw that many. Maybe they'll hit another land, maybe they won't, but wizards have shied away from allowing that kind of anti-land discard even when its getting 'replaced' in the past because of the ability to just mana screw an opponent on the spot.
honestly though, even when you could hit a bunch of lands on turn 2-3 with or without ramp, they'll probably draw 1/3 lands back and most decks will have action spells to let them dig out another land, plus more draws, and so you'd only keep them to 2-3 lands and they still might not miss land drops. So its not exactly oppressive
Well, it's more useful in Commander than Reap Intellect.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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It is amazing how much Tron hate they have printed recently.
But do I understand this correct that you can name "Island" and kick 4 Islands out of your opponents deck?
Also looking through your opponents hand and deck seems quite nasty.
Yeah, this could help assassin’s trophy be removal without the attached ramp if you know you’re opponent is running only a few basics. You could also potentially use this, trophy, and field of ruin to shut a player out of a splashed color.
The ability to name lands means this card would be highly considerable sideboard material. It will not be mainboard because extraction effects generally sacrifice battlefield tempo, which you cannot afford to against many matchups (especially aggro decks), which effectively makes a dead card in hand in those matchups.
This is probably the premier sideboard card against the likes of Tron and Scapeshift in particular, especially if you're in Grixis (and have no access to Assassin's Trophy), but like all sideboard cards, it will be meta-dependent.
Lost legacy is a bomb, I honestly don't know why more people didn't play it. I've never casted one and not won the game. You pick their most crucial card and leave them to completely change their game plan while yours stays on track. Nexus of fate hated lost legacy. This card is going to be just as good if not better as it can target more.
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At a prerelease with 40 card decks, 4 instances of a basic land will often be the majority of the lands in a deck's secondary color. A 10/7 or 11/6 split wouldn't be unusual, and poaching 4 of the 6 or 7 islands in a Ru deck could leave them a few dead cards.
In a average manabase they'd have 8-9 Islands? Dropping that down to 4-5 early will make getting there harder. (Depending on if they have color fixing in deck, or if they splashed a third color, naturally.) Not the best play, but it might be a good sideboard if they have a bomb they seem to rely on.
Again, usually its going to be correct to name anything else but in their desire to hate on Tron even more, they've created a VERY unfun card.
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WGBDoran: Ent-mootWBG
GGGMultani: Group Bear HugGGG
GB(B/G)The Gitrog Monster: Dredgefall DurdleGB(B/G)
RGWGahiji, the Honored Group Hug MonsterRGW
UB(U/B)Yuriko, Ninja Trinket AggroUB(U/B)
WUBRGAtogatog: Assembling a OHKOWUBRG
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So this one doesn't hit all the Relentless Rats.
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RCRDaretti: Superfriends Forever RCR
WGBDoran: Ent-mootWBG
GGGMultani: Group Bear HugGGG
GB(B/G)The Gitrog Monster: Dredgefall DurdleGB(B/G)
RGWGahiji, the Honored Group Hug MonsterRGW
UB(U/B)Yuriko, Ninja Trinket AggroUB(U/B)
WUBRGAtogatog: Assembling a OHKOWUBRG
I know wizards jumped through hoops to template this extraction effect in a way that would be versatile but not broken for its intended effects- it can hit nonbasic lands, it can get the cards from basically anywhere, but its replacing them from their hand- but if you could reliably cast this on turn 2 somehow, or at least turn 3 on the play, you could simply choose "mountain" against a red deck like blood moon, and then take all the lands out of their hand and let them draw that many. Maybe they'll hit another land, maybe they won't, but wizards have shied away from allowing that kind of anti-land discard even when its getting 'replaced' in the past because of the ability to just mana screw an opponent on the spot.
honestly though, even when you could hit a bunch of lands on turn 2-3 with or without ramp, they'll probably draw 1/3 lands back and most decks will have action spells to let them dig out another land, plus more draws, and so you'd only keep them to 2-3 lands and they still might not miss land drops. So its not exactly oppressive
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Yeah, this could help assassin’s trophy be removal without the attached ramp if you know you’re opponent is running only a few basics. You could also potentially use this, trophy, and field of ruin to shut a player out of a splashed color.
This is probably the premier sideboard card against the likes of Tron and Scapeshift in particular, especially if you're in Grixis (and have no access to Assassin's Trophy), but like all sideboard cards, it will be meta-dependent.
I'll be trying this out in a few lists against Big Mana and Combo decks.
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If that becomes a thing "somehow" they will run Snow-Covered Forests too.
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