The shocks are guild-watermarked. I know they’ve shied away from putting rare lands in seeded packs before... but if they’re committed to 8-per-guild it does seem like a more flavourful solution to actually use the watermarked rare rather than resort to one non-watermarked and not-really-archetype-supporting rare.
Hopefully I will not have the same luck as my RTR experience when I picked Selesnya and ended up Grixis because it was strictly more advantageous. Still a bit sour over that as I felt conned out of my guild choice.
The shocks are guild-watermarked. I know they’ve shied away from putting rare lands in seeded packs before... but if they’re committed to 8-per-guild it does seem like a more flavourful solution to actually use the watermarked rare rather than resort to one non-watermarked and not-really-archetype-supporting rare.
oh god i hope so. right now golgari looks like a lottery and dimir looks like the most solid.
i wanted to go selesnya but really, the card that interests me the most in the set is march of the multitudes and i have no chance to open it?
Again, based on testing with a simulated set of packs from DraftSim... Boros seems OP
Removal out the backside and good evasion
It's safe to say Gruesome Menagerie is Golgari's eighth promo. The leak of it showed it as a Prerelease Promo.
If they want a different color for each guild's monocolor that means Dimir gets Blue, Izzet gets Red, Boros gets White and Selesnya gets Green. We can't assume they're doing this when we only know one of the promos, but I still wanted to say which guild would get what color if they did a different color for each.
It's safe to say Gruesome Menagerie is Golgari's eighth promo. The leak of it showed it as a Prerelease Promo.
If they want a different color for each guild's monocolor that means Dimir gets Blue, Izzet gets Red, Boros gets White and Selesnya gets Green. We can't assume they're doing this when we only know one of the promos, but I still wanted to say which guild would get what color if they did a different color for each.
That makes sense. Theoretically, it could also be a Dimir kit, but that seems pretty unlikely.
Nothing to really do with the seeded boosters, but considering promos are in transparent packaging...
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Attention: Guilds of Ravnica Prerelease Announcement
When you attend your prerelease at your local game store you might notice your prerelease pack is not cello wrapped. Wizards of the Coast is committed to players having the best quality play experiences with our product. A component that didn’t meet that objective made it into prerelease kits in your region and was removed.
We know a happy Magic player is an informed Magic player, so: inside your kit you should find 5 Guilds of Ravnica boosters, 1 seeded guild-specific booster containing cards from the Guilds of Ravnica set, 1 date-stamped promo card, 1 guild-stamped Spindown, and a guild-themed instructional insert.
Happy Guilds of Ravnica Prerelease!
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Apparently the component has something to do with the removal of MTG:Arena codes since this was in the comments.
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inside your kit you should find 5 Guilds of Ravnica boosters, 1 seeded guild-specific booster containing cards from the Guilds of Ravnica set, 1 date-stamped promo card...
But that date-stamped promo is in the guild-specific booster, and we are still only getting 6 rares/mythics.
"Inside, you'll get six normal Guilds of Ravnica boosters plus a special "seeded" booster. This contains one of eight different rares or mythic rares as your Prerelease card, plus a ton of cards to give you a head start on building a two-color deck of that guild. There are some themes in the boosters built around the rares/mythic rare that you open (not to mention some mana fixing!) so this should really help your deck fire off on all cylinders."
That appears to be in error. It's not the first error they've made about this prerelease (earlier press stated that the promo you get could be any rare or mythic in the set - they've only recently readjusted that to show that it's seeded-on-guild).
The preprerelease kits opened last week all had seeded pack plus five, not six.
"Inside, you'll get six normal Guilds of Ravnica boosters plus a special "seeded" booster. This contains one of eight different rares or mythic rares as your Prerelease card, plus a ton of cards to give you a head start on building a two-color deck of that guild. There are some themes in the boosters built around the rares/mythic rare that you open (not to mention some mana fixing!) so this should really help your deck fire off on all cylinders."
Hmm, how strange. Yeah that article is just wrong. Every other article and posting on the official site has the correct information.
You get FIVE Guilds of Ravnica boosters and one seeded booster. For a total of SIX packs.
I'm betting since they do a prerelease primer article for every set, and the majority of the time there is little difference in how prereleases work, this was just a typo that slipped through. But poor form Wizards, poor form.
"Inside, you'll get six normal Guilds of Ravnica boosters plus a special "seeded" booster. This contains one of eight different rares or mythic rares as your Prerelease card, plus a ton of cards to give you a head start on building a two-color deck of that guild. There are some themes in the boosters built around the rares/mythic rare that you open (not to mention some mana fixing!) so this should really help your deck fire off on all cylinders."
With the help of the video I tried to guess the promo card selection.
Ben got Tajic, Legion's Edge and Kathleen got Etrata, the Silencer so the rare legendary Creature cycle is given.
Hallie got Trostani Discordant so we can assume that the mystic guild leader as possible promo.
This was almost clear.
Jordynne got Assassin's Trophy -> rare multicolor guild sorcery/instant card
Graham pick up a Assure // Assemble -> Split Rare cycle
Adam I think got Mausoleum Secrets not sure about this. -> rare mono colored guild card
Sam took Izzet but go Golgari/Dimir so no glue what he ended up getting.
Cameron got Ionize or Risk Factor
speculation but likely pure speculation but there aren't many possibilities left so...
One card is missing for the 5 guilds if there 8 possible cards. There are 5 mono colored rare cards without guild watermark but guild flavor text... so maybe them:
With the help of the video I tried to guess the promo card selection.
Ben got Tajic, Legion's Edge and Kathleen got Etrata, the Silencer so the rare legendary Creature cycle is given.
Hallie got Trostani Discordant so we can assume that the mystic guild leader as possible promo.
This was almost clear.
Jordynne got Assassin's Trophy -> rare multicolor guild sorcery/instant card
Graham pick up a Assure // Assemble -> Split Rare cycle
Adam I think got Mausoleum Secrets not sure about this. -> rare mono colored guild card
Sam took Izzet but go Golgari/Dimir so no glue what he ended up getting.
Cameron got Ionize or Risk Factor
speculation but likely pure speculation but there aren't many possibilities left so...
One card is missing for the 5 guilds if there 8 possible cards. There are 5 mono colored rare cards without guild watermark but guild flavor text... so maybe them:
If all the lists of the first seven cards for each guild in Sylve´s post plus Gruesome Menagerie from the post above mine are all correct, and there are in fact 8 promos for each guild, we are only missing the last Boros card. Though to be honest, I think those lists are looking a bit too hard for cycles/patterns.
Well that actually surprises me.
This actually raises a question then, as so far we have been under the impression that the only possible mythics you could open were the Guild leaders. So is it possible to get the other guild mythics? (Underrealm Lich, Chance for Glory, etc.) Or does this take the spot of Ral, as maybe they didn't want to give people easy access to the Planeswalkers.
If all the lists of the first seven cards for each guild in Sylve´s post plus Gruesome Menagerie from the post above mine are all correct, and there are in fact 8 promos for each guild, we are only missing the last Boros card. Though to be honest, I think those lists are looking a bit too hard for cycles/patterns.
Nah, something is wrong or we can get more than 8 possible promos. Beast Whisperer was the promo for Selesnya in a russian preprerelease video (2 posts above...)(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viJosJ7AgGk ) Gruesome is promo confirmed since it was first leaked.
If all the lists of the first seven cards for each guild in Sylve´s post plus Gruesome Menagerie from the post above mine are all correct, and there are in fact 8 promos for each guild, we are only missing the last Boros card. Though to be honest, I think those lists are looking a bit too hard for cycles/patterns.
Nah, something is wrong or we can get more than 8 possible promos. Beast Whisperer was the promo for Selesnya in a russian preprerelease video (2 posts above...)(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viJosJ7AgGk ) Gruesome is promo confirmed since it was first leaked.
Beast Whisperer probably just means that Bounty of Might isn't in Selesnya packs as a promo, which makes some sense. I think Thousand-Year Storm shows that they didn't put the Planeswalkers as guild mythics, which also makes sense since they probably didn't want the balance warped by half the guilds getting lots of planeswalkers, plus that would drive down the rarity of said planeswalkers. So that would give Golgari Underrealm Lich as their mythic, instead of Vraska.
They've had different commons and uncommons for a while now in seeded packs, so that's not really evidence of anything. The things that could disprove the current theory is a 3rd Selesnya non-watermarked rare, a 2nd non-watermarked rare for any of the other guilds, or seeing Ral or Vraska or the non-guildleader mythic for Boros, Selesnya, or Dimir. Otherwise, we've got a fairly solid idea of what could be in each pack, with the exception of the Boros non-watermarked card.
Additionally, it's the only practical way they can ensure the proper rarity for mythics. By having one mythic, and 7 other rares, they can ensure the 1 in 8 rarity of mythics is maintained. Barring going up to 16 cards (and you've already seen how hard it is to just put together a list of 8 rares/mythics that fit), any other number would require duplication of some of the cards to maintain that 1 in 8 ratio, which would result in wonky rarities.
Again, based on testing with a simulated set of packs from DraftSim... Boros seems OP
Removal out the backside and good evasion
If they want a different color for each guild's monocolor that means Dimir gets Blue, Izzet gets Red, Boros gets White and Selesnya gets Green. We can't assume they're doing this when we only know one of the promos, but I still wanted to say which guild would get what color if they did a different color for each.
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Necromancer (or Noob)
Cat.
Don't ask, I don't know why ether...
Each color has a 3 or so non-affiliated options left for the final slot (Green has 4, but that's counting Bounty of Might as non-affiliated, when it seems pretty likely to be Selesnya). White gets Bounty Agent, Citywide Bust, and Dawn of Hope, Blue gets Drowned Secrets, Narcomobea, and Omnispell Adept, Black gets Gruesome Menagerie, Midnight Reaper, and Ritual of Soot, Red gets Erratic Cyclops, Experimental Frenzy, and Runaway Steam-kin, and Green gets Beast Whisperer, Pelt Collector, and Vivid Revival. There's some I can definitely see not being used as prerelease promos, like Runaway Steam-kin, but it definitely feels like there's a lot of combinations that would work. My guess would probably be Narcomobea for Dimir, Citywide Bust or Bounty Agent for Boros, Erratic Cyclops or Experimental Frenzy for Izzet, and Pelt Collector or Beast Whisperer for Selesnya.
For those who cannot view images:
Attention: Guilds of Ravnica Prerelease Announcement
When you attend your prerelease at your local game store you might notice your prerelease pack is not cello wrapped. Wizards of the Coast is committed to players having the best quality play experiences with our product. A component that didn’t meet that objective made it into prerelease kits in your region and was removed.
We know a happy Magic player is an informed Magic player, so: inside your kit you should find 5 Guilds of Ravnica boosters, 1 seeded guild-specific booster containing cards from the Guilds of Ravnica set, 1 date-stamped promo card, 1 guild-stamped Spindown, and a guild-themed instructional insert.
Happy Guilds of Ravnica Prerelease!
Please note: the above applies to SG, IN, PH regions only.
Apparently the component has something to do with the removal of MTG:Arena codes since this was in the comments.
Hi everyone - as an FYI, Tencent owns the publishing rights for Magic: The Gathering Arena in Asia (excl. Japan and Korea).
If you have any questions, please visit http://mtga.qq.com/ for the latest updates from Tencent.
But that date-stamped promo is in the guild-specific booster, and we are still only getting 6 rares/mythics.
Right?
"Inside, you'll get six normal Guilds of Ravnica boosters plus a special "seeded" booster. This contains one of eight different rares or mythic rares as your Prerelease card, plus a ton of cards to give you a head start on building a two-color deck of that guild. There are some themes in the boosters built around the rares/mythic rare that you open (not to mention some mana fixing!) so this should really help your deck fire off on all cylinders."
source: prerelease primer (image with 6 boosters)
The preprerelease kits opened last week all had seeded pack plus five, not six.
Nonetheless. If the statements about the contents of the pack are true, we will actually get more for our money. Which is a good thing
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Hmm, how strange. Yeah that article is just wrong. Every other article and posting on the official site has the correct information.
You get FIVE Guilds of Ravnica boosters and one seeded booster. For a total of SIX packs.
I'm betting since they do a prerelease primer article for every set, and the majority of the time there is little difference in how prereleases work, this was just a typo that slipped through. But poor form Wizards, poor form.
Pretty frustrating, right?
Beast Whisperer in the Selesnya one. ( Locket, guildgate, Conclave Guildmage , Flower // Flourish , Demotion , Righteous Blow , Skyline Scout , Devkarin Dissident , Loxodon Restorer , Pause for Reflection, Siege Wurm, Pack's Favor, Sumala Woodshaper, Vernadi Shieldmate)
Looks like 1 guild booster and 5 boosters.
also Runaway Steam-Kin(Selective Snare, Book Devourer, Piston-Fist Cyclops, Goblin Electromancer, Sure Strike, Muse Drake, Radical Idea, Goblin Cratermaker, Sonic Assault
Direct Current, Fire Urchin, Locket, guildgate) in the izzet booster.
both dice have the guild symbol
Source:There is a Russian preprerelease video uploaded today:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viJosJ7AgGk
Izzet: Thousand-Year Storm confirmed here.
Dimir: Narcomoeba confirmed here.
If all the lists of the first seven cards for each guild in Sylve´s post plus Gruesome Menagerie from the post above mine are all correct, and there are in fact 8 promos for each guild, we are only missing the last Boros card. Though to be honest, I think those lists are looking a bit too hard for cycles/patterns.
Stay reasonable, be mindful of your expectations and don't feed the trolls.
Doomsdayin'
Well that actually surprises me.
This actually raises a question then, as so far we have been under the impression that the only possible mythics you could open were the Guild leaders. So is it possible to get the other guild mythics? (Underrealm Lich, Chance for Glory, etc.) Or does this take the spot of Ral, as maybe they didn't want to give people easy access to the Planeswalkers.
Has anyone actually opened a promo Ral or Vraska?
Nah, something is wrong or we can get more than 8 possible promos. Beast Whisperer was the promo for Selesnya in a russian preprerelease video (2 posts above...)(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=viJosJ7AgGk ) Gruesome is promo confirmed since it was first leaked.
guild booster content also changes (uncommons and commons)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN9t2AwqCfI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hWZDQyhq2c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0G_3_ewGCBY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-LClkKs7ho
Also some kits have the token inside the guild kit, others (mostly so far) the token is inside.
One thing i noticed: Siege Wurm is prety consistent in the Selesnya guild packs
Guild kits can be diferent even with the same promo ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fN9t2AwqCfI and https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hWZDQyhq2c )(Selesnya)
They've had different commons and uncommons for a while now in seeded packs, so that's not really evidence of anything. The things that could disprove the current theory is a 3rd Selesnya non-watermarked rare, a 2nd non-watermarked rare for any of the other guilds, or seeing Ral or Vraska or the non-guildleader mythic for Boros, Selesnya, or Dimir. Otherwise, we've got a fairly solid idea of what could be in each pack, with the exception of the Boros non-watermarked card.
Stay reasonable, be mindful of your expectations and don't feed the trolls.
Doomsdayin'
That's how they did it last time they had seeded packs.
For example
Art is life itself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R2LVhNGGLA
Vivid Revival is a golgary promo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4IdcGmEi44