Rules Question: Does turn Arixmethes in his land form turn the lieutenant cards "online"?
I would say no. While he's got a counter on him, he's a land, not a creature, and not a creature land either. Since your commander has to be a legendary creature, he can't be one while he's got the counters on him.
Rules Question: Does turn Arixmethes in his land form turn the lieutenant cards "online"?
I would say no. While he's got a counter on him, he's a land, not a creature, and not a creature land either. Since your commander has to be a legendary creature, he can't be one while he's got the counters on him.
Incorrect. Commander is a state of the card, it is a specific unchanging aspect added by the rules of playing Commander or Brawl. It cannot be removed by any effects in game (meaning if your commander is a face down 2/2 it is STILL your Commander and still unique from any other face down 2/2s).
Rules Question: Does turn Arixmethes in his land form turn the lieutenant cards "online"?
I would say no. While he's got a counter on him, he's a land, not a creature, and not a creature land either. Since your commander has to be a legendary creature, he can't be one while he's got the counters on him.
The lieutenant cards still function. "Commanderness" is a property of the actual card, not a characteristic. If Arixmethes is your commander, and it exists as a permanent on the battlefield under your control, you control your commander (the same is true for Theros gods that aren't creatures). It just doesn't get any bonuses that would be granted to "commander creatures you control".
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I only find one SERIOUS flaw in this card.........we will have to waituntil a new Anthology to get it in Foil
I don't like foils, so that's perfectly fine with me.
Seeing everyone celebrate this card on Twitter makes me so happy. Kelly Digges (who suggested it), Gavin and April seem so excited with it too, and rightfully so. A lot of people want to build around Arixemthes or put him in their decks. I really made the right call petitioning so hard for this card And WOTC can see how unique and celebrated such Vorthos designs can be
This is one of the better designed cards in the past few sets, overall. Don't understand why they had to wait for a commander product, before giving us this level of card design.
But hey, imagine how you'll feel if they reveal that Jenrik is in the 'cares about top of deck' deck... you know, the Astrologer?
That would certainly be amazing too, although I understand that's less likely. With Arixmethes finally carded, that leaves Cosper Lowe and the remaining Kamigawa novel characters, my favorite of which is Choryu. But ideally I hope we get them all - I'd actually rather get all the Kamigawa novel characters on cards over a Return to Kamigawa, believe it or not.
I still play the Thing in the Ice you sent me in the deck that Arixmethes is going into, by the way Thrasios is the Commander and Thassa is in the 99, but I search her with Time of Need and Primal Command. Eventually I'll get a Sylvan Tutor for the deck... but Portal is such a nightmare. I'd like a Wordly Tutor reprint with new art at some point too for the deck.
omg revealing this for Quest For Ula's Temple is so cool. And the best part, Arixmethes ramps into the spells that will remove his counters. I love it being a may ability and the fact it's any spell. This card just keeps being awesome. Everyone on Twitter is celebrating it. I wonder how many people know I petitioned for it. I'm the Anthony who tallied the Character poll for Maro on Blogatog btw - and no, I actually didn't give Arixmethes any extra votes But here he is!
But hey, imagine how you'll feel if they reveal that Jenrik is in the 'cares about top of deck' deck... you know, the Astrologer?
That would certainly be amazing too, although I understand that's less likely. With Arixmethes finally carded, that leaves Cosper Lowe and the remaining Kamigawa novel characters, my favorite of which is Choryu. But ideally I hope we get them all - I'd actually rather get all the Kamigawa novel characters on cards over a Return to Kamigawa, believe it or not.
While adorable, are you aware that Kamigawa happened some 1400 years in the past,everybody from the utsushiyo is dead as dodo?
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But hey, imagine how you'll feel if they reveal that Jenrik is in the 'cares about top of deck' deck... you know, the Astrologer?
That would certainly be amazing too, although I understand that's less likely. With Arixmethes finally carded, that leaves Cosper Lowe and the remaining Kamigawa novel characters, my favorite of which is Choryu. But ideally I hope we get them all - I'd actually rather get all the Kamigawa novel characters on cards over a Return to Kamigawa, believe it or not.
While adorable, are you aware that Kamigawa happened some 1400 years in the past,everybody from the utsushiyo is dead as dodo?
Yes. I think you misread my post. I'll clarify: I'd rather get all the remaining Kamigawa novel characters as cards in supplemental products such as Commander even more than I would want an actual Return to Kamigawa itself. Largely because a Return would not card those characters for the reason you mentioned.
This is one of the better designed cards in the past few sets, overall. Don't understand why they had to wait for a commander product, before giving us this level of card design.
The reason for that is quite simple, they can create cards in supplementary products such as commander that would seriously warp or break standard. I for one would not like a return to Urza's Saga era power. It was not fun to go through once, and it would certainly not be fun to go through again.
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It's about time for the reserved list to die, for the sake of Vintage and Legacy (And Commander).
I never understood the love for Massacre Girl in this list. Especially with no Serra in the Top Ten.
I agree, it's amazing how they knocked out three from this list.
Actually, the reason Serra and Urza are not on this list is because there was a separate poll for Planeswalkers. This poll was just for Legendary Creatures. I accidentally tallied and added Lord Windgrace because I had no idea who the character was at the time (and still vaguely do). I should have ignored his votes. Gix should be the Legend on this list instead of Lord Windgrace to be accurate. MaRo and I were corrected in the comments, but it was already posted by then.
Massacre Girl / The Butcher Clowns, Feather and Fblthp could be in the upcoming Ravnica sets for their fans I suppose.
The Raven Man felt awkward tallying because we don't know who he is exactly. Could be Lim-Dul, or a Bolas psychic trick, or Lilliana's own mind... who knows.
I would only change one thing about this card. I would give it hexproof as long as it has slumber counters on it, and give it the ability to put a slumber counter back on it in order to protect itself.
As long as () has a slumber counter on it, it is a land and has hexproof.
2: put a slumber counter on ()
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I would only change one thing about this card. I would give it hexproof as long as it has slumber counters on it, and give it the ability to put a slumber counter back on it in order to protect itself.
As long as () has a slumber counter on it, it is a land and has hexproof.
2: put a slumber counter on ()
I hadn't thought of the vulnerability of it being a land, that's a good point to give it hexproof then. I figured this could have menace as a creature though.
You know, whenever I see this idea of "the island was actually a monster" being explored in fiction, there is always a detail that bugs me: the fact that unsuspecting people built HOUSES on the back of the monster. I mean, houses aren't built by stacking bricks ON TOP of the ground, houses are built by digging deep WITHIN the ground to establish the foundations: if you were to dig into the shell of a giant lobster, wouldn't you realize that something is amiss?
Plant life would indicate that there's actual soil on top of that thing. It's totally realistic now!
You know, whenever I see this idea of "the island was actually a monster" being explored in fiction, there is always a detail that bugs me: the fact that unsuspecting people built HOUSES on the back of the monster. I mean, houses aren't built by stacking bricks ON TOP of the ground, houses are built by digging deep WITHIN the ground to establish the foundations: if you were to dig into the shell of a giant lobster, wouldn't you realize that something is amiss?
Plant life would indicate that there's actual soil on top of that thing. It's totally realistic now!
I mean maybe it's shell grows through a process similar to like a clam, so the shell is functionally like stone that grows (slowly) over time?
I never anticipated waking up this morning to THIS!!!!???
MY ARIXMETHES ARRIVING AT LONG LAST!!!!! HELL YES IT'S A SLUMBERING ISLE, THIS DAMN THING SLUMBERED ALL THE WAY THROUGH THEROS BLOCK AND THE LAST FOUR YEARS OF MY MTG LIFE
But the slumber counters have been removed! I HAVE CAST MY 5TH SPELL AT LAST AND HE HAS APPEARED!
The moment I saw this, I was so stunned, I could have sworn this was a prank. LITERALLY TREMBLING AS I TYPE THIS!
omgomgogmgomgomgomg
omThassa
This literally happened. I'm so stunned but it literally finally did at long freaking last. I don't even know how to react!
I destroyed these forums, Blogatog, Reddit, Youtube comments, emails, survey comments, all of it in my path to get here. I would have interrupted Trump and Kim Jong Un to demand this card. I have been on a MISSION AND TODAY... TODAY GENTLEMEN! WE DINE IN ARIXMETHES!!!!
YES this is the Theros Atlantis from the novels. And the Lost City itself, all in one. It's one of my absolute favorite MTG Legends. I thought we would have to return to Theros to get this card, but HERE HE IS!!! I really do believe Ken Nagle and Gavin really did look online for what we wanted. This approach has been amazing and if you notice, it has yielded some of the most impressive, unique and Vorthos-friendly cards in these products that have been celebrated the most!
Thassa'lmighty I'm having palpitations. Not only did I open this thread to the ACTUAL CARD. Like not only did this ACTUALLY HAPPEN, But the design is AMAZING! It's really unique, and truly captures the lore of this mighty and elusive creature. I love the art too - it's exactly as I had imagined it (although perhaps more so at sunset, but I love getting bright, balmy Greek beach sunshine art all the same!) with the whole visible isle but Arixmethes partly visible beneath the sea surface. And who doesn't admire scale boats! The island itself even reminds me of Santorini, the real-world island that was once Atlantis. My only gripe is the city itself should have been larger and more prominent (see the new Temple of the False God) but honestly, the art captures so much perfectly that this is only minor.
I was surprised a bit to see him Simic, but part of me anticipated he may be. While it's awkward he gives more devotion to Kruphix than Thassa, the character always kinda did feel Simic, being a sea monster land. THEY EVEN GOT THE STATS CORRECT!!!! And it is so funny and cool that he is a bit similar to Thing In the Ice and the enchantment lands from Ixalan, but in a different and unique way. Trample or Hexproof would have been ideal, but I imagine Trample is awkward on something that immediately becomes a Land. Plus who needs trample when I WHELMING WAVE and smash with this. I'd have given him Hexproof, but frankly, they've gotten so much right with this card, I have nothing to do but to celebrate and finally put my crusade to rest and enjoy all the commanders games I am going to have with ARIXMETHES!
So this finally solidifies my Sea Monster deck as Simic and I am not complaining at all. I will use Time of Need to tutor Thassa and have them both on the field. JUST THAT IS VICTORY ENOUGH FOR ME.
We have Polukranos
We have Arixmethes
Thraxes left and we will have ALL THE PETS OF THE GODS WOTC I forgive all of your transgressions! -Thassa
I would say no. While he's got a counter on him, he's a land, not a creature, and not a creature land either. Since your commander has to be a legendary creature, he can't be one while he's got the counters on him.
The lieutenant cards still function. "Commanderness" is a property of the actual card, not a characteristic. If Arixmethes is your commander, and it exists as a permanent on the battlefield under your control, you control your commander (the same is true for Theros gods that aren't creatures). It just doesn't get any bonuses that would be granted to "commander creatures you control".
Seeing everyone celebrate this card on Twitter makes me so happy. Kelly Digges (who suggested it), Gavin and April seem so excited with it too, and rightfully so. A lot of people want to build around Arixemthes or put him in their decks. I really made the right call petitioning so hard for this card And WOTC can see how unique and celebrated such Vorthos designs can be
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
But hey, imagine how you'll feel if they reveal that Jenrik is in the 'cares about top of deck' deck... you know, the Astrologer?
I still play the Thing in the Ice you sent me in the deck that Arixmethes is going into, by the way Thrasios is the Commander and Thassa is in the 99, but I search her with Time of Need and Primal Command. Eventually I'll get a Sylvan Tutor for the deck... but Portal is such a nightmare. I'd like a Wordly Tutor reprint with new art at some point too for the deck.
omg revealing this for Quest For Ula's Temple is so cool. And the best part, Arixmethes ramps into the spells that will remove his counters. I love it being a may ability and the fact it's any spell. This card just keeps being awesome. Everyone on Twitter is celebrating it. I wonder how many people know I petitioned for it. I'm the Anthony who tallied the Character poll for Maro on Blogatog btw - and no, I actually didn't give Arixmethes any extra votes But here he is!
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
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While adorable, are you aware that Kamigawa happened some 1400 years in the past,everybody from the utsushiyo is dead as dodo?
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
This is a named Simic dude lol
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
The reason for that is quite simple, they can create cards in supplementary products such as commander that would seriously warp or break standard. I for one would not like a return to Urza's Saga era power. It was not fun to go through once, and it would certainly not be fun to go through again.
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OW it is not that great.
Actually, the reason Serra and Urza are not on this list is because there was a separate poll for Planeswalkers. This poll was just for Legendary Creatures. I accidentally tallied and added Lord Windgrace because I had no idea who the character was at the time (and still vaguely do). I should have ignored his votes. Gix should be the Legend on this list instead of Lord Windgrace to be accurate. MaRo and I were corrected in the comments, but it was already posted by then.
Massacre Girl / The Butcher Clowns, Feather and Fblthp could be in the upcoming Ravnica sets for their fans I suppose.
The Raven Man felt awkward tallying because we don't know who he is exactly. Could be Lim-Dul, or a Bolas psychic trick, or Lilliana's own mind... who knows.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Also my niece likes to watch me play magic, and I'm gonna have a tough time explaining to her how an island can wear Swiftfoot Boots.
Was bad enough explaining Akroma equipped with 5 different weapons.
As long as () has a slumber counter on it, it is a land and has hexproof.
2: put a slumber counter on ()
WUB Zur's Silver Bullets WUB
UR Jhoira's Apocalyptic Decree UR
I hadn't thought of the vulnerability of it being a land, that's a good point to give it hexproof then. I figured this could have menace as a creature though.
Plant life would indicate that there's actual soil on top of that thing. It's totally realistic now!
I mean maybe it's shell grows through a process similar to like a clam, so the shell is functionally like stone that grows (slowly) over time?
*mana ROCK