This seems like a MUCH better top-end for R/G dinos then Carnage Tyrant (at least pre-board and against non-control decks), because giving it haste (with Regisaur Alpha or Otapec Huntmaster) is relevant and allows it to basically "draw 2 cards" even if it immediately eats it.
It's also a dream come true for Gishath in EDH, and probably playable in most R/G or R/W commander lists purely because drawback-free unconditional draw is so rare in red.
As pointed out, this PROBABLY isn't going into Sneak Attack decks in Legacy, but it's not that far off. Overall excellent card.
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It isn't everyday they print something that could end up in Legacy Sneak Attack. But when they do, you know something is on the verge of going horribly wrong.
I wonder how much this would cost if it let you circumvent timing restrictions.
The way it is it needs Vedalken Orrery more than a haste enabler I think.
The as if they had Flash is baked right in to "you may cast". Standard templating for this style of effect.
It isn't everyday they print something that could end up in Legacy Sneak Attack. But when they do, you know something is on the verge of going horribly wrong.
Or horribly right.
Totally fair point. I mean, he's munching snax off the top of your library too, right? So everybody has to chip in to feed the beast. Seems fair.
If you wanted this to have haste or menace or prowess (or any additional keywords) then we can’t be friends.
For crying out loud, that’s what deck building is for. Not every card, and IMO, not any card should be a deck by itself.
If this had Haste it wouldn’t need any other cards in the deck. That’s just stupid. As is, it’s on curve perfectly with Regisaur Alpha. This Dino is a boss just the way it is
Dino Narset, Enlightened Master, instead of your library you hit everyone's, and obviously gets better in multiplayer. This is a legend I can get behind, wreck chaos as red should, and you don't have to cast a spell if it harms you.
Dino Narset, Enlightened Master, instead of your library you hit everyone's, and obviously gets better in multiplayer. This is a legend I can get behind, wreck chaos as red should, and you don't have to cast a spell if it harms you.
Dino Narset, Enlightened Master, instead of your library you hit everyone's, and obviously gets better in multiplayer. This is a legend I can get behind, wreck chaos as red should, and you don't have to cast a spell if it harms you.
Dino Narset, Enlightened Master, instead of your library you hit everyone's, and obviously gets better in multiplayer. This is a legend I can get behind, wreck chaos as red should, and you don't have to cast a spell if it harms you.
Well Possibility Storm and Sunbird's Invocation only trigger when something is cast from hand. So you don't get any shenanigans with them from Etali's trigger.
I love this dino. I can't way to cast tonnes of goodies from my opponent's deck(s).
Dino Narset, Enlightened Master, instead of your library you hit everyone's, and obviously gets better in multiplayer. This is a legend I can get behind, wreck chaos as red should, and you don't have to cast a spell if it harms you.
Well Possibility Storm and Sunbird's Invocation only trigger when something is cast from hand. So you don't get any shenanigans with them from Etali's trigger.
I love this dino. I can't way to cast tonnes of goodies from my opponent's deck(s).
But thats half the point with Possibility Storm as with Etali you actually have a modicum of control over what you cast while your opponents do not. Lets say you your Etali is equipped with Darksteel Plate and when he attacks, you exile a just Jokulhaups. Since you have Possibility Storm out, your opponents may not have the answer to this while you can still cast Jokulhaups normally since its not from the hand.
Not the worst but it's a typical red 'cycle' card, probably bulk, probably usable in EDH.
6 mana. 6/6. That’s already well costed. Anything less expensive than that is broken without a drawback.
Now, tack on that you can cast up to two spells when it attacks (in standard) if they’re on top of the libraries. That cost me no additional mana. How efficient can we really ask for creatures to be?
Dino Narset, Enlightened Master, instead of your library you hit everyone's, and obviously gets better in multiplayer. This is a legend I can get behind, wreck chaos as red should, and you don't have to cast a spell if it harms you.
Well Possibility Storm and Sunbird's Invocation only trigger when something is cast from hand. So you don't get any shenanigans with them from Etali's trigger.
I love this dino. I can't way to cast tonnes of goodies from my opponent's deck(s).
But thats half the point with Possibility Storm as with Etali you actually have a modicum of control over what you cast while your opponents do not. Lets say you your Etali is equipped with Darksteel Plate and when he attacks, you exile a just Jokulhaups. Since you have Possibility Storm out, your opponents may not have the answer to this while you can still cast Jokulhaups normally since its not from the hand.
Kinda surprised to see this effect in monored rather than UR, but still looks like fun.
Especially since this thing is FREAKING AQUATIC
This reeks of having some last minute tweak made to it,
but it's still really really good
(and it obv. can be run in any deck that could run a UR version).
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rules question: can you resolve the ability, chose not to cast some of the exiled cards, resolve it again next turn, and cast the cards that were exiled "this way" on the previous turn's trigger?
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It's also a dream come true for Gishath in EDH, and probably playable in most R/G or R/W commander lists purely because drawback-free unconditional draw is so rare in red.
As pointed out, this PROBABLY isn't going into Sneak Attack decks in Legacy, but it's not that far off. Overall excellent card.
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But now the three elders that Gishath, Sun's avatar can take is revealed
He will gladly let all three in his army
Just get regisaur alpha there's your haste.
The card is quite powerful, too, particularly since it hits ALL players, not just you or target opponent.
The as if they had Flash is baked right in to "you may cast". Standard templating for this style of effect.
Totally fair point. I mean, he's munching snax off the top of your library too, right? So everybody has to chip in to feed the beast. Seems fair.
For crying out loud, that’s what deck building is for. Not every card, and IMO, not any card should be a deck by itself.
If this had Haste it wouldn’t need any other cards in the deck. That’s just stupid. As is, it’s on curve perfectly with Regisaur Alpha. This Dino is a boss just the way it is
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I like the way you think, even the names of the cards fit Etali.
Hm, Arjun, the Shifting Flame already uses those, perhaps a joint alliance...
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It'll be my curve topper for RG Dinos alongside Ghalta.
Well Possibility Storm and Sunbird's Invocation only trigger when something is cast from hand. So you don't get any shenanigans with them from Etali's trigger.
I love this dino. I can't way to cast tonnes of goodies from my opponent's deck(s).
Imagine this in the red version of God-Pharaoh's Gift decks. Cathartic Reunion, then Refurbish your Gift and swing with this.
Controlled Chaos if you will.
6 mana. 6/6. That’s already well costed. Anything less expensive than that is broken without a drawback.
Now, tack on that you can cast up to two spells when it attacks (in standard) if they’re on top of the libraries. That cost me no additional mana. How efficient can we really ask for creatures to be?
Ooo good point. Hadn't thought of it that deep.
Especially since this thing is FREAKING AQUATIC
This reeks of having some last minute tweak made to it,
but it's still really really good
(and it obv. can be run in any deck that could run a UR version).
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
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Melek, Izzet Paragon
Oona, Queen of the Fae
Bruna, Light of Alabaster
Gisela, Blade of Goldnight
Rhys the Redeemed
Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord
Sen Triplets
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WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW