Wow, no card spoiled today, but not disappointed at all. Love all three characters in their own way (though particularly excited about Teferi and Karn).
Well this raises a bunch of random questions in my mind:
1.) Will Karn's appearance here bring New Phyrexia back into the story in some way?
2.) Will Ajani recruit Karn to aid in the fight against Nicol Bolas?
3.) Will Teferi still be a lowly legendary creature?
4.) Will suspend make a return, especially with Jhoira here?
5.) What role will Jhoira and Teferi have in this storyline?
6.) Will Jodah also be in the set, considering IIRC he and Jhoira are BFFs (at minimum)?
7.) What abilities will Karn's PW card have here (assuming he gets one, which he should)?
All this and more in the next episode of spoiler season.
Sick, can't wait to see a new Tefari card, does he need to be mono blue or does he have other colors?
Personally I'm hoping instead of a 3rd colorless PW, that Karn 2.0 is a 5 color walker
[quote from="Joao Wockeez »" Also, Karn is a good guy, and he knows that wherever he goes a "New" Phyrexia will follow, he is literally a walking Phyrexial Oil spawn, wtf would he risk going to Dominaria?.[/quote]
Gotta feel like Yawgmoth's Tomb is a far worse source of corruption than the single sphere of Phyrexia Oil which is a part of Karn
3.) Will Teferi still be a lowly legendary creature?
While we saw him spark-less last time, we see other walkers get a new spark or reignite their old one and with his popularity I'd say that more likely to happen then not.
Which lead to wonder how many walker we going to see since people had guessed;
Liliana B
Ajani GW
and it looks like we'll see;
Jaya R
Teferi U
Karn C
That to me looks like color balance. I'd be fine with Teferi in a vacuum, especially since it's been so long that we've gotten a monoblue PW in Standard that wasn't Jace, but would it be OK for Jace and a Teferi PW card to co-exist in Standard?
But we don't know yet if we are getting more then one set on Dominaria yet, which mean we might only get 4 of them at most. Thought if we get two set it does make a great color balance for the walkers.
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Sick, can't wait to see a new Tefari card, does he need to be mono blue or does he have other colors?
Personally I'm hoping instead of a 3rd colorless PW, that Karn 2.0 is a 5 color walker
[quote from="Joao Wockeez »" Also, Karn is a good guy, and he knows that wherever he goes a "New" Phyrexia will follow, he is literally a walking Phyrexial Oil spawn, wtf would he risk going to Dominaria?.
Gotta feel like Yawgmoth's Tomb is a far worse source of corruption than the single sphere of Phyrexia Oil which is a part of Karn[/quote]
Wasnt the entire point of vensers sacrifice to purge karn of the phyrexian corruption, which would include the oil
Sick, can't wait to see a new Tefari card, does he need to be mono blue or does he have other colors?
Personally I'm hoping instead of a 3rd colorless PW, that Karn 2.0 is a 5 color walker
[quote from="Joao Wockeez »" Also, Karn is a good guy, and he knows that wherever he goes a "New" Phyrexia will follow, he is literally a walking Phyrexial Oil spawn, wtf would he risk going to Dominaria?.
Gotta feel like Yawgmoth's Tomb is a far worse source of corruption than the single sphere of Phyrexia Oil which is a part of Karn
Wasnt the entire point of vensers sacrifice to purge karn of the phyrexian corruption, which would include the oil[/quote]
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My EldraziTron deck is waiting for Karn reprints, a Karn Legendary creature or a NEW Karn walker. Its like Christmas.
Just opened 8 packs of Weatherlight for Christmas today as well. Will the Weatherlight be a Legendary Vehicle? Speculate away!!!
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Is it just me, or is this the first post-Time Spiral depiction of Teferi that doesn't look like Keegan-Michael Key?
Looks like Eddie Murphy Raw version of Teferi.
What are all those flower petals? Hmmmmm…… Lotus petals???
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7.) What abilities will Karn's PW card have here (assuming he gets one, which he should)?
Should we look to Venser's abilities on the Legendary and PW cards for an idea? Maybe some of Venser's abilities imprinting on Karn as he sacrificed himself to cure Karn. Just a thought.
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She's the central figure featured in Tinker and a handful of cards from Urza's Legacy onward throughout the Weatherlight saga in card art and flavour text, among other things.
If it's a legendary theme, then here's hoping for Grandeur as a recurring mechanic! I wonder if Dominaria will have a gimmick like Time Spiral with timeshifted cards but in a different theme. Maybe that might be our "Masterpiece" bit for the set.
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God, I hope Grandeur doesn't make a return, it's a very poor mechanic that makes legendary creatures useless in the one format that actually cares about legendary creatures. Even MaRo has acknowledged that in its current form Grandeur is unlikely to return.
3.) Will Teferi still be a lowly legendary creature?
While we saw him spark-less last time, we see other walkers get a new spark or reignite their old one and with his popularity I'd say that more likely to happen then not.
Which lead to wonder how many walker we going to see since people had guessed;
Liliana B
Ajani GW
and it looks like we'll see;
Jaya R
Teleri U
Karn C
Well, unless they respark Teferi somehow, he is unlikely to appear as a planeswalker in Dominaria. And was Lily and Ajani ever confirmed for Dominaria?
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It's about time for the reserved list to die, for the sake of Vintage and Legacy (And Commander).
And was Lily and Ajani ever confirmed for Dominaria?
Neither was officially confirmed to get a card there, but Ajani went there to get allies against Bolas and those leaked booster mock-ups of Amonkhet and Ixalan way back when had Ajani on one of them, which implies that he's getting something in the near future.
I can see Liliana being on Dominaria if for no other reason than it's her home plane, and she needs to re-evaluate her life choices.
Why exactly? Even if you aren't into old-school MTG, all 3 of these guys appeared in the game from Time Spiral onwards, all 3 have had their shot in the limelight in Commander, and Karn here is likely getting a new PW card.
I remember Karn and Teferi from Mirage and the Weatherlight. But Jhoira's contribution to old-school mtg seems to be all of Jhoira's Toolbox?
Card-wise? Definitely Tinker She is also on Slow Motion.
She was the best friend of Karn, and the explosion of Tolarian time machine (Sunder) basically happened only because she was killed by Phyrexian agents along with Barrin and Teferi, and Urza, who came too late, overloaded the machine to send Karn sufficiently back and rescue her. All three were alive in the new timeline, but everyone else except some forty-five academy staff rescued by Urza and Karn dies. Well, Urza again best in his "saving" anything...
Later, she was the first ever captain of the Weatherlight. Even later, she, as a native Ghitu from Shiv, went back home and ran the Mana Rig to produce Thran metal.
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So the alumni reunion is here. The three were best friends back in the academy days, eons ago.
Teferi looks... different from his previous design. While he's the only one amongst the three who could age, he looks like an entirely different person.
I still think Dominaria would be the perfect set to bring back Masterpieces with a Legendary theme, and this art just reinforces how fitting that would be.
I just hope they don't BFZ it.
'And then Gideon smacked Karn lightly over the head, causing the golem to explode and die, while Gideon flexed his oiled muscles and.....*fast musical beat* whipped his sural back and forth, whipped his sural back and forth'.
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Well, unless they respark Teferi somehow, he is unlikely to appear as a planeswalker in Dominaria.
Yeah...I said that.
And was Lily and Ajani ever confirmed for Dominaria?
I said people had guess them, you need to re-read my post a little better.
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I also wouldn't mind seeing Teferi as a creature again rather than a planeswalker. Lore wise it's cooler to be a planeswalker, but I would rather have him be some kind of WU legend focused on Blinking permanents to showcase his mastery of temporal magic. I don't think they would bring back phasing to a standard set but blink would be the best second alternative.
I just hope they don't BFZ it.
'And then Gideon smacked Karn lightly over the head, causing the golem to explode and die, while Gideon flexed his oiled muscles and.....*fast musical beat* whipped his sural back and forth, whipped his sural back and forth'.
Nah, we're getting Oath of Karn by the end of this. Gotta meet the colorless quota and Ugin isn't it.
My question is if we are seeing Karn Liberated appear in masters 25 along with the original Jhoira of the Ghitu as a way to hype the dominaria set further. The part of new wizards I dislike is their abject refusal to reprint a good historic card and instead constantly reinvent the wheel in standard. It's why the market gets so bad for this game in the long run for players of older formats and as can be seen, even if they make modern insanely pricey, it doesn't stop people from just quitting standard if they mess up.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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All this and more in the next episode of spoiler season.
Personally I'm hoping instead of a 3rd colorless PW, that Karn 2.0 is a 5 color walker
[quote from="Joao Wockeez »" Also, Karn is a good guy, and he knows that wherever he goes a "New" Phyrexia will follow, he is literally a walking Phyrexial Oil spawn, wtf would he risk going to Dominaria?.[/quote]
Gotta feel like Yawgmoth's Tomb is a far worse source of corruption than the single sphere of Phyrexia Oil which is a part of Karn
But we don't know yet if we are getting more then one set on Dominaria yet, which mean we might only get 4 of them at most. Thought if we get two set it does make a great color balance for the walkers.
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Gotta feel like Yawgmoth's Tomb is a far worse source of corruption than the single sphere of Phyrexia Oil which is a part of Karn[/quote]
Wasnt the entire point of vensers sacrifice to purge karn of the phyrexian corruption, which would include the oil
Wasnt the entire point of vensers sacrifice to purge karn of the phyrexian corruption, which would include the oil[/quote]
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A few of his themed cards are white, so I could see him being Azorius, but it'd feel weird to not have a monoblue Teferi.
My EldraziTron deck is waiting for Karn reprints, a Karn Legendary creature or a NEW Karn walker. Its like Christmas.
Just opened 8 packs of Weatherlight for Christmas today as well. Will the Weatherlight be a Legendary Vehicle? Speculate away!!!
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Looks like Eddie Murphy Raw version of Teferi.
What are all those flower petals? Hmmmmm…… Lotus petals???
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It'd be nice to get a new Legendary Vehicle for Captain Sisay to acquire for her Legends Gang.
I was expecting a big ROI-spoiler today
d:(
Should we look to Venser's abilities on the Legendary and PW cards for an idea? Maybe some of Venser's abilities imprinting on Karn as he sacrificed himself to cure Karn. Just a thought.
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God, I hope Grandeur doesn't make a return, it's a very poor mechanic that makes legendary creatures useless in the one format that actually cares about legendary creatures. Even MaRo has acknowledged that in its current form Grandeur is unlikely to return.
Well, unless they respark Teferi somehow, he is unlikely to appear as a planeswalker in Dominaria. And was Lily and Ajani ever confirmed for Dominaria?
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At this point, I don't think it would be too hard for them.
Neither was officially confirmed to get a card there, but Ajani went there to get allies against Bolas and those leaked booster mock-ups of Amonkhet and Ixalan way back when had Ajani on one of them, which implies that he's getting something in the near future.
I can see Liliana being on Dominaria if for no other reason than it's her home plane, and she needs to re-evaluate her life choices.
Card-wise? Definitely Tinker She is also on Slow Motion.
She was one of the central characters of the novel Time Streams : https://mtg.gamepedia.com/Time_Streams
She was the best friend of Karn, and the explosion of Tolarian time machine (Sunder) basically happened only because she was killed by Phyrexian agents along with Barrin and Teferi, and Urza, who came too late, overloaded the machine to send Karn sufficiently back and rescue her. All three were alive in the new timeline, but everyone else except some forty-five academy staff rescued by Urza and Karn dies. Well, Urza again best in his "saving" anything...
Later, she was the first ever captain of the Weatherlight. Even later, she, as a native Ghitu from Shiv, went back home and ran the Mana Rig to produce Thran metal.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
Teferi looks... different from his previous design. While he's the only one amongst the three who could age, he looks like an entirely different person.
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'And then Gideon smacked Karn lightly over the head, causing the golem to explode and die, while Gideon flexed his oiled muscles and.....*fast musical beat* whipped his sural back and forth, whipped his sural back and forth'.
Yeah...I said that.
I said people had guess them, you need to re-read my post a little better.
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Nah, we're getting Oath of Karn by the end of this. Gotta meet the colorless quota and Ugin isn't it.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!