Try to slip it under your lands while your opponent isn't looking.
Try to put it down along with a creature you cast on your turn.
Adjust your cards to attack, and try to sleight of hand it into play.
There are lots of interesting way to try and get onto the battlefield. And even if your opponent does spot it, all they can do is put it back into your hand. Unless they want to waste a Naturalize effect on it.
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You can only hide armchair on your turn, so you can't just keep putting it from your hand to the battlefield while your opponent attacks
Lets say my opponent gets up to get a snack like a soda, could I hide entirely normal armchair underneath one of their cards?
Last time I checked, underneath your chair isn't "on the battlefield", unless you are actually playing under the table (I'm looking at you Enter the Dungeon).
And since you have to hide the Armchair "on the battlefield", that would be a no go.
Lets say my opponent gets up to get a snack like a soda, could I hide entirely normal armchair underneath one of their cards?
Last time I checked, underneath your chair isn't "on the battlefield", unless you are actually playing under the table (I'm looking at you Enter the Dungeon).
And since you have to hide the Armchair "on the battlefield", that would be a no go.
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Lets say my opponent gets up to get a snack like a soda, could I hide entirely normal armchair underneath one of their cards?
Last time I checked, underneath your chair isn't "on the battlefield", unless you are actually playing under the table (I'm looking at you Enter the Dungeon).
And since you have to hide the Armchair "on the battlefield", that would be a no go.
Not my chair, their cards.
Wow.... guess it is later here then I thought. Or I just have "chairs" on my mind... I wonder why?
But yeah hiding it under your opponents cards should be fine, since there is only the one battlefield. But probably easier for your opponent to find.
Can't you plop this down under literally any other permanent you play?
The opponent may know it's there, but if they can't see it, they can't unsummon it, right?
I see where you're going with that. Technically they can't see it; they only know that it's there. This is that grey area that silver-bordered cards love bringing up, lol.
Also, maybe it's because I'm so tired, but I don't get the mimic reference? Is it from a particular game? Or the generic mimic creature that mimics a treasure chest in RPG's?
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Can't you plop this down under literally any other permanent you play?
The opponent may know it's there, but if they can't see it, they can't unsummon it, right?
In tournament play, are you allowed to touch your opponent's cards?
I guess what I'm asking is, is the intent to be able to hide it well enough to get a free Pit Trap even if your opponent knows it's there?
On reflection, it seems lame the other way. Your opponent can just say "I return ~ to your hand" right before attacking each turn. I guess I would let them do this if they could tell me where it was hiding, but not otherwise.
Can't you plop this down under literally any other permanent you play?
The opponent may know it's there, but if they can't see it, they can't unsummon it, right?
I see where you're going with that. Technically they can't see it; they only know that it's there. This is that grey area that silver-bordered cards love bringing up, lol.
Also, maybe it's because I'm so tired, but I don't get the mimic reference? Is it from a particular game? Or the generic mimic creature that mimics a treasure chest in RPG's?
If they notice there's two cards seemingly stacked but don't notice the chairs face actually, they could still send it back to you hand I believe.
Can't you plop this down under literally any other permanent you play?
The opponent may know it's there, but if they can't see it, they can't unsummon it, right?
Even if the face of the card is totally obscured, if they see a second card under one of the cards on the battlefield (which is a lot easier when they're sleeved), I want to say there has to be something in the core game rules that allows them to check to see what that second card is to make sure you aren't actually cheating. Worst case, they could probably call a judge to check.
EDIT: If it weren't for the silver border that makes this card stick out like a sore thumb, my go-to strategy would be to play this in either an equipment-focused deck, or a deck that otherwise floods the battlefield with artifacts, and just place it on the field in plain sight hoping it gets lost in the sea of other permanents on the board and nobody notices. Activating it when it's just laying on the battlefield where anybody could see (but didn't notice) would probably get the ultimate reaction.
The beauty of it being an artifact is that it can be placed in a way that makes it looks like that creature is equipped with something, especially if you've been playing other equipment, like Proper Laboratory Attire.
I'm a little confused by the discussion here. If your opponent thinks you've hidden TNA below one of their cards, couldn't they just... move their card to verify? Then they'd see it and can unsummon it. Right? Or is there some kind of permanent "Just A Second..." effect in the CR that I don't know about?
I'm a little confused by the discussion here. If your opponent thinks you've hidden TNA below one of their cards, couldn't they just... move their card to verify? Then they'd see it and can unsummon it. Right? Or is there some kind of permanent "Just A Second..." effect in the CR that I don't know about?
You are mixing posts from two different discussions that are going on at the same time.
One suggsted strategy is hiding ENA under an opponent's card for style points and because they might not expect ENA to be hidden under their own permanent (maybe an enchantment that has become useless in the current game state.
The other is about just putting the card blatantly under your own permanent - but in a way that it is visually obscured under your own cards despite the fact that your opponent is aware of the card being under the other cards - trying to rules lawyer the "only if he or see sees ~" section of the activated ability that allows to return ENA to its owner's hand, because the card is not "seen" under the other cards even if you know it is there.
It's hard to tell which individual user follows which of those individual lines of thoughts.
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Also, maybe it's because I'm so tired, but I don't get the mimic reference? Is it from a particular game? Or the generic mimic creature that mimics a treasure chest in RPG's?
Prey? There Mimics in the game.
Personally, I thought a reference to Red Dwarf would've been more fitting and fun.
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Also, maybe it's because I'm so tired, but I don't get the mimic reference? Is it from a particular game? Or the generic mimic creature that mimics a treasure chest in RPG's?
Prey? There Mimics in the game.
Personally, I thought a reference to Red Dwarf would've been more fitting and fun.
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Also a partial Harry Potter reference due to the proffesor Slaghorn(?) as an armchair... lots of different threads coming together in this one.
So if I am being attacked, and have priority, couldn't I just place this on the battlefield and activate it's ability before my opponent gained priority to bounce it?
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Also, maybe it's because I'm so tired, but I don't get the mimic reference? Is it from a particular game? Or the generic mimic creature that mimics a treasure chest in RPG's?
Prey? There Mimics in the game.
Personally, I thought a reference to Red Dwarf would've been more fitting and fun.
Also a partial Harry Potter reference due to the proffesor Slaghorn(?) as an armchair... lots of different threads coming together in this one.
Ultimately it's a reference to the classic Mimic from Dungeons & Dragons (which could mimic more objects than just treasure chests). There may be other influences on this specific idea, but D&D is the big one.
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Sweet fun card. Reminiscent of Cheaty Face. It's a normal chair, honest. I've always had it.
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Try to slip it under your lands while your opponent isn't looking.
Try to put it down along with a creature you cast on your turn.
Adjust your cards to attack, and try to sleight of hand it into play.
There are lots of interesting way to try and get onto the battlefield. And even if your opponent does spot it, all they can do is put it back into your hand. Unless they want to waste a Naturalize effect on it.
You can only hide armchair on your turn, so you can't just keep putting it from your hand to the battlefield while your opponent attacks
Last time I checked, underneath your chair isn't "on the battlefield", unless you are actually playing under the table (I'm looking at you Enter the Dungeon).
And since you have to hide the Armchair "on the battlefield", that would be a no go.
The opponent may know it's there, but if they can't see it, they can't unsummon it, right?
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Wow.... guess it is later here then I thought. Or I just have "chairs" on my mind... I wonder why?
But yeah hiding it under your opponents cards should be fine, since there is only the one battlefield. But probably easier for your opponent to find.
I see where you're going with that. Technically they can't see it; they only know that it's there. This is that grey area that silver-bordered cards love bringing up, lol.
Also, maybe it's because I'm so tired, but I don't get the mimic reference? Is it from a particular game? Or the generic mimic creature that mimics a treasure chest in RPG's?
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In tournament play, are you allowed to touch your opponent's cards?
I guess what I'm asking is, is the intent to be able to hide it well enough to get a free Pit Trap even if your opponent knows it's there?
On reflection, it seems lame the other way. Your opponent can just say "I return ~ to your hand" right before attacking each turn. I guess I would let them do this if they could tell me where it was hiding, but not otherwise.
If they notice there's two cards seemingly stacked but don't notice the chairs face actually, they could still send it back to you hand I believe.
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EDIT: If it weren't for the silver border that makes this card stick out like a sore thumb, my go-to strategy would be to play this in either an equipment-focused deck, or a deck that otherwise floods the battlefield with artifacts, and just place it on the field in plain sight hoping it gets lost in the sea of other permanents on the board and nobody notices. Activating it when it's just laying on the battlefield where anybody could see (but didn't notice) would probably get the ultimate reaction.
You are mixing posts from two different discussions that are going on at the same time.
One suggsted strategy is hiding ENA under an opponent's card for style points and because they might not expect ENA to be hidden under their own permanent (maybe an enchantment that has become useless in the current game state.
The other is about just putting the card blatantly under your own permanent - but in a way that it is visually obscured under your own cards despite the fact that your opponent is aware of the card being under the other cards - trying to rules lawyer the "only if he or see sees ~" section of the activated ability that allows to return ENA to its owner's hand, because the card is not "seen" under the other cards even if you know it is there.
It's hard to tell which individual user follows which of those individual lines of thoughts.
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Personally, I thought a reference to Red Dwarf would've been more fitting and fun.
Also a partial Harry Potter reference due to the proffesor Slaghorn(?) as an armchair... lots of different threads coming together in this one.
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