LOVE the new hunt master wow! Love she mimics the wolf token she makes. All the new art is great, thought I'm kinda sad the new Garruk art isn't set on Innistrad.
IMO Arguel's Blod Fast is the worst card from the bunch.
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Woofta. Can’t tell you guys how happy I am to avoid this set.
If you wanted the planeswalkers then this is great. If you had no interest in them then I can’t see how this product would be appealing - but that’s just my perspective.
All 5 origins walkers takes up wayyy too much space on their own. Then you have Arlinn (I love the card but it doesn’t need to be here) and Garruk (excellent new art tbh). 7 of the 15. 5 of which are from the same set with the same art as original. Yuck. For me, this runs deeper as I despise their prominence in this game but even without that - this burns lol.
Arguel’s Blood Fast...really?!? Why is this from a “Vault” when I can Grab one in a currently printed pack of cards or pick one up for less than a dollar. Not saying value must determine what goes into these but wasn’t this the least sought after of the cycle anyway? So, it’s a current card, it’s undesirable, and not unique...what qualifies this card for FTV?
Although I’m not surprised to see Brisela because it is the most iconic of the meld cards it does basically cheat us out of a card slot.
I absolutely love the human side of the new Huntmaster - it’s almost perfect. Perhaps that made it almost impossible for the werewolf side to meet those standards. Nonetheless, the furry side is a let down for me. I was deadset on picking up a single of that card, almost regardless of its price, but now I’m not sure. It’ll depend on the price of the card at this point.
That Garruk is looking awesome though. I think I’ll grab a single of that.
About what we expected. My heart sank for a moment when Chandra appeared first as I feared she'd be the only origin-walker to appear here but the rest are just below her for some reason (alphabetical, perhaps). Westvale Abbey and Growing Rites of Itlamoc would have been better value than Elbrus and Arguel's but green already threatened to run away with this thing with Nissa, Garruk, and the multi-colored werewolves so it's fair enough that we don't get Rites or Mayor of Avabruck for that matter.
I doubt I'll be getting it - I would love to own a copy of Garruk, Nissa, and Liliana as well as a second Huntmaster (with sweeeet art) for my casual Werewolves deck, but this thing is enough #value that it will be tough to find at MSRP and even if I did, I don't NEED any of those four bad enough.
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I guess there's some good stuff here (great new art on Huntmaster), but the one Ixalan card they chose is... Arguel's Blood Fast!? I think it's safe to say that every other flip enchantment is a better card and has better art.
Literally nothing old or interesting that they could print, and they end up including random crap like Blood Fast and Elbrus
This was basically a list anyone with access to the gatherer could have made once the rule of double faced cards only was announced and they probably would have been 90% right, all the flip walkers, Delver, Huntmaster, the flip angels, it was super obvious. Only thing that surprised me was going for Elbrus, a bad card instead of Westvale Abbey.
Nice selection of cards for all play styles. I'll likely be skipping this as the foiling just irks me on these, but I might grab a spare JVP or Nissa and go from there, on the cheap, while I find a non-foil replacement.
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Arguel’s Blood Fast...really?!? Why is this from a “Vault” when I can Grab one in a currently printed pack of cards or pick one up for less than a dollar. Not saying value must determine what goes into these but wasn’t this the least sought after of the cycle anyway? So, it’s a current card, it’s undesirable, and not unique...what qualifies this card for FTV?
In the past there were at times a single copy of card from future set in the collection, perhaps this Vault was originally meant to be released before Icalan?
Garruk Relentless looks...different in this one. Something about his facial structure looks more "bottom heavy" than usual.
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New images above - see attachments or link for the rest! It ended up being way too crowded with all of them together.
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IMO Arguel's Blod Fast is the worst card from the bunch.
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If you wanted the planeswalkers then this is great. If you had no interest in them then I can’t see how this product would be appealing - but that’s just my perspective.
All 5 origins walkers takes up wayyy too much space on their own. Then you have Arlinn (I love the card but it doesn’t need to be here) and Garruk (excellent new art tbh). 7 of the 15. 5 of which are from the same set with the same art as original. Yuck. For me, this runs deeper as I despise their prominence in this game but even without that - this burns lol.
Arguel’s Blood Fast...really?!? Why is this from a “Vault” when I can Grab one in a currently printed pack of cards or pick one up for less than a dollar. Not saying value must determine what goes into these but wasn’t this the least sought after of the cycle anyway? So, it’s a current card, it’s undesirable, and not unique...what qualifies this card for FTV?
Although I’m not surprised to see Brisela because it is the most iconic of the meld cards it does basically cheat us out of a card slot.
I absolutely love the human side of the new Huntmaster - it’s almost perfect. Perhaps that made it almost impossible for the werewolf side to meet those standards. Nonetheless, the furry side is a let down for me. I was deadset on picking up a single of that card, almost regardless of its price, but now I’m not sure. It’ll depend on the price of the card at this point.
That Garruk is looking awesome though. I think I’ll grab a single of that.
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I doubt I'll be getting it - I would love to own a copy of Garruk, Nissa, and Liliana as well as a second Huntmaster (with sweeeet art) for my casual Werewolves deck, but this thing is enough #value that it will be tough to find at MSRP and even if I did, I don't NEED any of those four bad enough.
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Literally nothing old or interesting that they could print, and they end up including random crap like Blood Fast and Elbrus
This was basically a list anyone with access to the gatherer could have made once the rule of double faced cards only was announced and they probably would have been 90% right, all the flip walkers, Delver, Huntmaster, the flip angels, it was super obvious. Only thing that surprised me was going for Elbrus, a bad card instead of Westvale Abbey.
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In the past there were at times a single copy of card from future set in the collection, perhaps this Vault was originally meant to be released before Icalan?
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Cards I still want to see created:
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Garruk Relentless looks...different in this one. Something about his facial structure looks more "bottom heavy" than usual.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.