The cycling does not make this worth 5 mana. They should have done a 3 CMC tutor that can maybe search for CMC 3 or less or something like that. This is pretty much unplayable as is.
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Dang it! I saw the name and thought we was getting a new dark ritual. This is more garbage filler. If Diabolic Tutor isn't good enough at 4cmc this isn't good enough at 5CMC.
I mean, I don't hate this card. It's okay-ish. But my mind just keeps going back to how this is basically the same cmc as cheating out Razaketh himself with Liliana, Death's Majesty or even Rise From The Grave and that interaction gives you basically unlimited tutors at instant speed.
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As seems to be a running theme, seems good in Commander - 5 mana tutor is pretty bad, but cycling is good. Probably way, way, way too slow in all other formats...
If the only options were this card at uncommon or the same card for 2BB at rare, which would you rather have printed (knowing that would take up a rare slot in the set)?
I'm thinking an upgraded Diabolic Tutor at rare with cycling would be way more welcome than this alternative take on Increasing Ambition at a lower rarity.
Yeah, rarity doesn't matter as much to me because I don't open packs. I'd take the more playable version - as a strictly better Diabolic Tutor, I might be tempted to play it in Zur Astral Slide. With the higher mana cost, it might as well have not been printed.
I'm actually pretty excited to test this in Ad Naus Zur with LabMan. It's already happy to play a 5cc universal tutor and it needs something that can cycle for 1cc. This card fulfills both roles so I can free up a slot for Solemnity.
It is pretty typical of MTG design that when they staple another option to an existing card (like Cycling, or modes, or Spell Mastery, etc), they increase the cost of the card for the versatility. It's comparatively rare that they actually print the card at the same cost as the card it obsoletes (though Hieroglyphic Illumination is one such case).
I like flexible cards, and while you're overpaying for the tutor, one cmc to draw a card at instant speed is perfectly fine. At most stages of the game this is just cheap draw into more gas, but when you need it to be it's a perfectly fine tutor. I see the complaints over its high cmc, but people are clearly undervaluing cycling as a whole.
It's a tutor effect. As an uncommon. This is a card meant for limited. Stop being disappointed about the lack of constructed applications for cards that were not created for constructed.
I'm calling it right now- worst rare in the set. Even good limited players will find better bombs at common and uncommon no sweat. Worst. Episode. Ever.
I really do predict this to be our worst rare in set award winner. I'd be happier opening a jar of eyeballs, so I think anything worse is highly unlikely. This card wont just have zero constructed potential, but not be significantly better than a mass of ghouls in a draft.
Or maybe they, y'know, just want to play a flavorful deck and have tutoring as a nice utility option while also offering cycling for decks that care about it.
this is the first time I've ever disagreed with that forever-poignant signature of yours. I cannot fathom why this wasn't the same converted cost as diabolic tutor but with additional (B) requirements. This cost makes it distasteful except to a very small sliver of the constructed player base.
And I can't say I'm keen to open this in a potential uncommon removal slot either way.
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It could certainly have cost 4 like the instant draw 2 or Demolish. Diabolic Tutor is a total stinker and one of the worst tutors I've played even though I understand why it costs what it does. I'd say they probably were worried about the cycling deck.
Once again, as an instant, it would be great. Still pretty cool for assembling combos in EDH, why not have another tutor option you can toss early game if it isn't needed. It's something.
I see the complaints over its high cmc, but people are clearly undervaluing cycling as a whole.
I play Zur Astral Slide - an entire Commander deck devoted to cycling. I am clearly not undervaluing cycling. I am complaining that the card is overcosted, because I prefer not to waste an entire turn tutoring for something I won't have the mana left to cast. Diabolic Tutor is too much mana, and this is even more.
I like that it's overcosted. Tutors are boring in general. Probably when Creative has nothing to think of they go for the low-hanging fruit.
This is semi decent in limited and perhaps better than Diabolic Tutor because of the cycling aspect. In a 40-card deck, chances are good that you may already have an answer/bomb card in hand and you can actually cycle it away at the cheapest cost possible.
I seriously doubt it, Diabolic Tutor isn't seeing any play, and this is even more expensive. There are better cycle cards out there to be sure so I doubt this will make any splash.
It does curve right into New Perspectives while also being New Perspectives fodder in itself. This is a bit janky, sure, but iunno. Could be fun.
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Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras. Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power. Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza. Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall. Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana. Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die. Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
I can see this being a one-of in New Perspectives decks, testing will need to determine if it is worth it.
I am more focused on the art. When I saw the name, I thought it would tie into the story where he corrupts the Luxa. Then I saw it was a tutor and that the art is of a different ritual he performs, I guess.
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I'm actually pretty excited to test this in Ad Naus Zur with LabMan. It's already happy to play a 5cc universal tutor and it needs something that can cycle for 1cc. This card fulfills both roles so I can free up a slot for Solemnity.
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Probably quite a lot. The card you mention would be in BW control and would tutor Approach of the Second Sun once you cast the first one.
Um, yes? This is pretty typical. Censor is Force Spike +1+Cycling. Dissenter's Deliverance is Oxidize +1+Cycling. Floodwaters is Into the Void +2+Cycling. Haze of Pollen is Fog +1+Cycling. Limits of Solidarity is Act of Treason +1+Cycling. Winged Shepherd is Ghostly Sentinel +1+cycling. I could go on.
It is pretty typical of MTG design that when they staple another option to an existing card (like Cycling, or modes, or Spell Mastery, etc), they increase the cost of the card for the versatility. It's comparatively rare that they actually print the card at the same cost as the card it obsoletes (though Hieroglyphic Illumination is one such case).
this is the first time I've ever disagreed with that forever-poignant signature of yours. I cannot fathom why this wasn't the same converted cost as diabolic tutor but with additional (B) requirements. This cost makes it distasteful except to a very small sliver of the constructed player base.
And I can't say I'm keen to open this in a potential uncommon removal slot either way.
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This is semi decent in limited and perhaps better than Diabolic Tutor because of the cycling aspect. In a 40-card deck, chances are good that you may already have an answer/bomb card in hand and you can actually cycle it away at the cheapest cost possible.
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I seriously doubt it, Diabolic Tutor isn't seeing any play, and this is even more expensive. There are better cycle cards out there to be sure so I doubt this will make any splash.
I am more focused on the art. When I saw the name, I thought it would tie into the story where he corrupts the Luxa. Then I saw it was a tutor and that the art is of a different ritual he performs, I guess.