I'm getting a Phyrexian Negator vibe from this card - an undercosted 5/5 with a manageable drawback. I doubt this will be as good as Phyrexian Negator was in its heyday, but this definitely looks solid for at least Limited. I could see some casual Suicide Black decks using this as well.
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5 spells cast in multi-player no problem.
Unless you're using Hapatra, but even then it's just okay.
Yes, or Nest of Scarabs. Every spell your opponents cast gives you a token, and then, if they haven't killed it, make it unblockable or at least hard to block, remove all the counters and start over. That's a lot of value.
There's more than enough bushwhacker type effects and a handful of good -1/-1 counter synergy in standard for this to take advantage of but i'm still not sure if this will find a home.
I don't think this card is particularly good. It looks extremely easy to shrink low enough to block and kill for 3 life. I'm not sure it's worth the mana investment. Seeing this thread, however, it looks like I'm misevaluating it, and that's fine too.
I'm getting a Phyrexian Negator vibe from this card - an undercosted 5/5 with a manageable drawback. I doubt this will be as good as Phyrexian Negator was in its heyday, but this definitely looks solid for at least Limited. I could see some casual Suicide Black decks using this as well.
Well negator was so powerful because Dark Rit was a card... Turn 1 Swamp->Dark Rit-> Negator was rough..
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I don't think this card is particularly good. It looks extremely easy to shrink low enough to block and kill for 3 life. I'm not sure it's worth the mana investment. Seeing this thread, however, it looks like I'm misevaluating it, and that's fine too.
I mean, it probably isn't a threat for a deck that has lots of one drops, but you only have three or four mana to work with against one dropped on-curve. You'd need to cast three or so spells in one turn to shrink it low enough that it can't at least trade when it swings in on the following turn. It also has the werewolf factor of forcing your opponent to act repeatedly in a turn, possibly overextending, and it's a brutal topdeck. It has interesting synergy with Plague Belcher as well.
When this has -1/-1 counter on it, but has trample, it still dies being blocked by a 4/4 before the damage remove the counter right?
short answer: yes.
longer answer: When this has a -1/-1 counter on it, it dies to the 4/4 and no counters are removed because it is 4/4 and trample doesn't do anything because after lethal damage is assigned to the 4/4, there is no damage left to trample over (and even if there were, like if it had deathtouch or was blocked by a 4/1, it would still die as state-based effects see that is has lethal damage on it before the trigger can resolve).
It's a good thing there's not a lot of 4/4's running arou....oh, wait...
I don't think this card is particularly good. It looks extremely easy to shrink low enough to block and kill for 3 life. I'm not sure it's worth the mana investment. Seeing this thread, however, it looks like I'm misevaluating it, and that's fine too.
There's two types of MTGSalvation posters: Optimistic Dreamers, and Pessimistic Hatebears.
I think the card has potential and fills a bunch of different roles (Zombies, Aggro, Counters) but time will tell if it finds a home in the competitive meta. I really like it in my Hapatra deck. It's a scary monster that generates counters for me to manipulate!
I don't think this card is particularly good. It looks extremely easy to shrink low enough to block and kill for 3 life. I'm not sure it's worth the mana investment. Seeing this thread, however, it looks like I'm misevaluating it, and that's fine too.
There's two types of MTGSalvation posters: Optimistic Dreamers, and Pessimistic Hatebears.
I think the card has potential and fills a bunch of different roles (Zombies, Aggro, Counters) but time will tell if it finds a home in the competitive meta. I really like it in my Hapatra deck. It's a scary monster that generates counters for me to manipulate!
FWIW I do like the card. I just think the drawback is too severe for serious tournament play. It's going to be a pet card for me regardless.
True. Like i said, it looks good. I think it will see play. Basically dies to anything that does 4, so it will probably never be an All-Star.
5 spells cast in multi-player no problem.
Unless you're using Hapatra, but even then it's just okay.
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Yes, or Nest of Scarabs. Every spell your opponents cast gives you a token, and then, if they haven't killed it, make it unblockable or at least hard to block, remove all the counters and start over. That's a lot of value.
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WBG Melira Pod GBWCommander - BR Olivia Voldaren RB Vampire Tribal
. . . . . . . . . WUB Sharuum the Hegemon BUW Not-Broken Artifact Midrange
. . . . . . . . . WUG Rafiq of the Many GUW Voltron
. . . . . . . . . . .UB Oona, Queen of the Fae BU No-combo Tempo-Mill
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It's interesting though
Well negator was so powerful because Dark Rit was a card... Turn 1 Swamp->Dark Rit-> Negator was rough..
This aint your girlfriends meta! This is a man's meta! TURBO META.
To be fair Noosegraf Mob isn't really for Standard, unless you can add more counters to it. I do enjoy it in Atraxa and Mazirek.
I mean, it probably isn't a threat for a deck that has lots of one drops, but you only have three or four mana to work with against one dropped on-curve. You'd need to cast three or so spells in one turn to shrink it low enough that it can't at least trade when it swings in on the following turn. It also has the werewolf factor of forcing your opponent to act repeatedly in a turn, possibly overextending, and it's a brutal topdeck. It has interesting synergy with Plague Belcher as well.
short answer: yes.
longer answer: When this has a -1/-1 counter on it, it dies to the 4/4 and no counters are removed because it is 4/4 and trample doesn't do anything because after lethal damage is assigned to the 4/4, there is no damage left to trample over (and even if there were, like if it had deathtouch or was blocked by a 4/1, it would still die as state-based effects see that is has lethal damage on it before the trigger can resolve).
It's a good thing there's not a lot of 4/4's running arou....oh, wait...
There's two types of MTGSalvation posters: Optimistic Dreamers, and Pessimistic Hatebears.
I think the card has potential and fills a bunch of different roles (Zombies, Aggro, Counters) but time will tell if it finds a home in the competitive meta. I really like it in my Hapatra deck. It's a scary monster that generates counters for me to manipulate!
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FWIW I do like the card. I just think the drawback is too severe for serious tournament play. It's going to be a pet card for me regardless.