Maro confirmed that there are ten DFCs in the set, and none of them at "lower rarities", which means probably rares/mythics only. There are two DFCs spoiled already. I'm guessing that there's a black rare DFC, a red rare DFC, a green rare DFC, and a green mythic DFC for color balance. The remaining four could be any combination of artifacts, lands, and/or or multicolored rares and mythics (though I doubt two lands, because we'll probably get a common mana fixer like Evolving Wilds). I think we can definitely eliminate the possibility that all ten DFCs are artifacts on the front, not only because of the aforementioned color balance but also because that would leave room for very few vehicles (at common and uncommon at least, rare/mythic vehicles could in theory be DFCs that turn into shipwreck lands).
Looking at the description of vampires from PAX, it describes a viceroy named Relo. I'd bet that's the WB vampire legend. (No, it's not the vampire queen because she's over on the other continent affecting things indirectly and the WB vampire legend is clearly standing on a ship). The problem is, Relo doesn't fit the crunch and while the name could start with a different word ("Viceroy Relo" for instance), the only word short enough in the name to be Relo is the first, plus the second word looks like "Butcher" and the third word is definitely "of".
I think that there are more artifacts than the crunch currently says, however. We should be getting three more multicolored uncommons (WU, BG, RW), but that might be it. There could be multicolored DFCs but probably only one if any. The multicolored section should probably be condensed so that there are only three to four empty spots. Besides, it's unlikely that there are no artifacts that come before the letter D alphabetically, which is what the current number crunch shows.
Old-Growth Dryads is actually #199 and can be bolded there.
"Drover the Mighty" should be "Drover of the Mighty".
"Tishana's Wayfinder" has some letters cut off.
"Belligerent" is misspelled in "Belligerent Brontodon".
I would not be stunned if there was no UW or BG gold uncommon. Those pairs seem almost totally unsupported.
You're right, there's only 1-2 multicolored spots left, and one of them has to be the RW uncommons. That means no BG and WU uncommons unless something is misnumbered. That said, I think that there will be limited archetypes supported for those colors: explore for BG and vehicles for WU.
Kind of disappointing though. I was hoping to play BG explore in limited and a multicolored uncommon to support it would have been nice.
I'm not sure if this would make sense to do but.....shouldn't this thread be pinned? I mean past number crunches have been pinned. On the other hand we got a ton of spoilers prior to the release of set so I'm unsure how much attention other people are paying to the number crunch for this set in comparison to past spoiler seasons.
I can't imagine them only doing 7/10 or 8/10 color pair signpost uncommons for draft. I can only guess that the pair or pairs that didn't get an actual multicolor card, likely got a card in one color that has an activated ability in the other one (along the lines of Drunau Corpse Trawler or Geistblast). Maybe even a two-colors-involved-in-costs artifact (something in the vein of Plague Boiler or Sunforger).
I can't imagine them only doing 7/10 or 8/10 color pair signpost uncommons for draft. I can only guess that the pair or pairs that didn't get an actual multicolor card, likely got a card in one color that has an activated ability in the other one (along the lines of Drunau Corpse Trawler or Geistblast). Maybe even a two-colors-involved-in-costs artifact (something in the vein of Plague Boiler or Sunforger).
That could be. Maybe we get a RW uncommon, a BG uncommon, and a vehicle with a WU activated ability or something. Kinda like how Eldritch Moon's GU uncommon was actually a colorlesa Eldrazi with GU in text box.
The way the colours are balanced there will be no WU or GB cards in the set. This is a world with no clans that cover those combinations. Of course Vraska is a exception because she planeswalked from Ravnica. I think this is a cool change. It fits an 8 player draft perfectly. You can either have all 8 players playing the 8 supported 2 colour combinations, which would lead to 3 Dino drafters, 3 Pirate, 1 Merfolk, 1 Vampire, or you could have two for each clan. Both break down perfectly, unlike the 10 guilds or 5 colours of a normal draft, which leads to an imbalance in an 8 man draft.
This means starting a draft with R is a slight advantage because you can pair it with any colour, whereas the other 4 have an unsupported combination.
Wasn't it largely the same in Amonkhet-Hour though? Sure, Naga existed in UG but you wouldn't draft 'tribal naga' - there really wasn't a coherent draft strategy for UG. But they tossed the color pair a general-utility uncommon anyway (a mana dork in AKH and a card-draw bird in HOU) for the sake of wheel balance despite not specifically intending that color pair to have a draft strategy.
In addition to the other cards revealed in the MTG Arena stream, seems some people on Reddit have spotted a red card named "Rile" in there.
Edit: I should probably elaborate -- Rile is a sorcery, and it looks like its text is probably "Rile deals 1 damage to target creature you control. That creature gains haste until end of turn. Draw a card."
I'm wondering if we are getting a rare cycle of DFC for all 5 colors. We got one for blue, black, and green already. I can see one for white and red to complete a rare cycle for DFCs. Then I can see the last DFC being a green mythic since it would balance for mythic in each color. I can already see the rares will be unbalanced for each color in this set.
From the card Chart a Course's flavour text it seems that there is a character named Captain Parrish, he/she may be a blue legendary creature and "Captain Parrish" fits the number crunch.
This set is already imbalanced towards blue at the rare level. I can't imagine it being even further imbalanced than it already is with yet another blue DFC (and we know all the non-DFC rares and mythics, so unless they're considering a sub-rare Legendary...).
Thing we're going to have to assume that, if Parrish gets a card, it's in Rivals, not main Ixalan. Or some later supplemental product, like they did for Taigam.
So I counted 52 rares (without DFCs) The crunch says total rares is 53. Am I missing something or is there 52?
There's 53. There was a red rare on the spoiled sheet that hasn't been officially spoiled yet but was too blurry to describe conclusively.
So far we've seen Angrath's Marauders, Burning Sun's Avatar, Captain Lannery Storm, Rampaging Ferocidon, Sunbird's Invocation, and Tilonalli's Skinshifter. We haven't been formally spoiled the red card that is near the bottom right of the spoiled sheet (bottom card of the tenth column and fourth from the bottom of the eleventh column).
It doesn't have P/T or subtypes. So it looks like it's an enchantment, instant, or sorcery (I think the type-line word is too short to be Enchantment, too, so it's an Instant or Sorcery). It has RR is the cost as well as some other number of generic.
It looks like it has a keyword then a cost at the start of its second paragraph; I am guessing it's an instant or sorcery that has a "Return this card from graveyard to hand" ability for a mana cost, provided you've triggered Raid this turn. Basically, something akin to a new Hammer of Bogardan (or, alternately, a noncreature take on Bloodsoaked Champion )
My best guess at the name, through the blur: Resonating Barrage. Recurring? Repeating?
So I counted 52 rares (without DFCs) The crunch says total rares is 53. Am I missing something or is there 52?
There's 53. There was a red rare on the spoiled sheet that hasn't been officially spoiled yet but was too blurry to describe conclusively.
So far we've seen Angrath's Marauders, Burning Sun's Avatar, Captain Lannery Storm, Rampaging Ferocidon, Sunbird's Invocation, and Tilonalli's Skinshifter. We haven't been formally spoiled the red card that is near the bottom right of the spoiled sheet (bottom card of the tenth column and fourth from the bottom of the eleventh column).
It doesn't have P/T or subtypes. So it looks like it's an enchantment, instant, or sorcery (I think the type-line word is too short to be Enchantment, too, so it's an Instant or Sorcery). It has RR is the cost as well as some other number of generic.
It looks like it has a keyword then a cost at the start of its second paragraph; I am guessing it's an instant or sorcery that has a "Return this card from graveyard to hand" ability for a mana cost, provided you've triggered Raid this turn. Basically, something akin to a new Hammer of Bogardan (or, alternately, a noncreature take on Bloodsoaked Champion )
My best guess at the name, through the blur: Resonating Barrage. Recurring? Repeating?
That does seem about right and I did notice that. I took another look at the rare sheet and there is one hard to read rare in the very top left corner that is another red rare. I also counted 16 red rares meaning 8 red rares. It looks like a tap one red and colorless mana effect. I saw that there is a guess text for that card with raid on the partial text spoilers but not this one. Anybody have any guesses on what it does? Sorry if this message sounds confusing but this is the best way I can word it.
Yup, I had missed that one. That one is formally spoiled today as Captivating Crew (see today's mothership thread for details and discussion). Still unspoiled on my guesswork Hammer of Bogardan with Raid, though I think it could be pencilled in among the "Re..." red rares.
You can remove Fathom Fleet Plundering, seeing as that card turned out to be called Sword-Point Diplomacy.
(Also, Thundering Spineback can be bolded.)
Edit: We can probably consider the name "Field of Ruin" to be confirmed, because it comes from the filename in the original source. (And, edit again, I guess that's totally confirmed now since we have an English card image...)
ok, so when Origins added 5 Mythics on a DFC sheet, but in the rare slot in the packs, they adjusted the normal rare sheet to keep the ratios.
I'm curious why they didn't do that this time (17/52, most likely). makes me think the DFCs in this set won't be in the rare slot of the packs, and will either replace a common like SoI, or (unlikely) the basic land.
sorry if this was known, I skimmed and didn't see anything.
Don't think you missed anything. I think this is still the big unknown of this set... how will the DFCs be distributed into packs?
I'm also kinda wondering if they're going to pull a change on us at prerelease and have all the promos come from the DFC sheet. People will really want these land-sides in foil, and it would be neat for every sealed pool to be sure to have access to one of these.
Looking at the description of vampires from PAX, it describes a viceroy named Relo. I'd bet that's the WB vampire legend. (No, it's not the vampire queen because she's over on the other continent affecting things indirectly and the WB vampire legend is clearly standing on a ship). The problem is, Relo doesn't fit the crunch and while the name could start with a different word ("Viceroy Relo" for instance), the only word short enough in the name to be Relo is the first, plus the second word looks like "Butcher" and the third word is definitely "of".
I think that there are more artifacts than the crunch currently says, however. We should be getting three more multicolored uncommons (WU, BG, RW), but that might be it. There could be multicolored DFCs but probably only one if any. The multicolored section should probably be condensed so that there are only three to four empty spots. Besides, it's unlikely that there are no artifacts that come before the letter D alphabetically, which is what the current number crunch shows.
Old-Growth Dryads is actually #199 and can be bolded there.
"Drover the Mighty" should be "Drover of the Mighty".
"Tishana's Wayfinder" has some letters cut off.
"Belligerent" is misspelled in "Belligerent Brontodon".
Thanks again for compiling this!
We still need room for 3 more uncommon multis. 229, 231, and you should probably claw back 233 into the multis.
You're right, there's only 1-2 multicolored spots left, and one of them has to be the RW uncommons. That means no BG and WU uncommons unless something is misnumbered. That said, I think that there will be limited archetypes supported for those colors: explore for BG and vehicles for WU.
Kind of disappointing though. I was hoping to play BG explore in limited and a multicolored uncommon to support it would have been nice.
That could be. Maybe we get a RW uncommon, a BG uncommon, and a vehicle with a WU activated ability or something. Kinda like how Eldritch Moon's GU uncommon was actually a colorlesa Eldrazi with GU in text box.
This means starting a draft with R is a slight advantage because you can pair it with any colour, whereas the other 4 have an unsupported combination.
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Edit: I should probably elaborate -- Rile is a sorcery, and it looks like its text is probably "Rile deals 1 damage to target creature you control. That creature gains haste until end of turn. Draw a card."
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Thing we're going to have to assume that, if Parrish gets a card, it's in Rivals, not main Ixalan. Or some later supplemental product, like they did for Taigam.
There's 53. There was a red rare on the spoiled sheet that hasn't been officially spoiled yet but was too blurry to describe conclusively.
So far we've seen Angrath's Marauders, Burning Sun's Avatar, Captain Lannery Storm, Rampaging Ferocidon, Sunbird's Invocation, and Tilonalli's Skinshifter. We haven't been formally spoiled the red card that is near the bottom right of the spoiled sheet (bottom card of the tenth column and fourth from the bottom of the eleventh column).
It doesn't have P/T or subtypes. So it looks like it's an enchantment, instant, or sorcery (I think the type-line word is too short to be Enchantment, too, so it's an Instant or Sorcery). It has RR is the cost as well as some other number of generic.
It looks like it has a keyword then a cost at the start of its second paragraph; I am guessing it's an instant or sorcery that has a "Return this card from graveyard to hand" ability for a mana cost, provided you've triggered Raid this turn. Basically, something akin to a new Hammer of Bogardan (or, alternately, a noncreature take on Bloodsoaked Champion )
My best guess at the name, through the blur: Resonating Barrage. Recurring? Repeating?
That does seem about right and I did notice that. I took another look at the rare sheet and there is one hard to read rare in the very top left corner that is another red rare. I also counted 16 red rares meaning 8 red rares. It looks like a tap one red and colorless mana effect. I saw that there is a guess text for that card with raid on the partial text spoilers but not this one. Anybody have any guesses on what it does? Sorry if this message sounds confusing but this is the best way I can word it.
(Also, Thundering Spineback can be bolded.)
Edit: We can probably consider the name "Field of Ruin" to be confirmed, because it comes from the filename in the original source. (And, edit again, I guess that's totally confirmed now since we have an English card image...)
I'm curious why they didn't do that this time (17/52, most likely). makes me think the DFCs in this set won't be in the rare slot of the packs, and will either replace a common like SoI, or (unlikely) the basic land.
sorry if this was known, I skimmed and didn't see anything.
I'm also kinda wondering if they're going to pull a change on us at prerelease and have all the promos come from the DFC sheet. People will really want these land-sides in foil, and it would be neat for every sealed pool to be sure to have access to one of these.
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