I'm interested to see what the new core sets are going to be like. They are apparently more focused on newer players, this may be related to the fact that they will "also have a stronger integration with the sample decks, Planeswalker Decks, and Deck Builder's Toolkit, allowing for an easier transition between the products".
Don't forget half of these cards are going to be new.
Can we expect new legendary creatures to supplement commander or would that be too complicated? Is there a precedent for legendary creatures being created or reprinted for core sets?
Don't forget half of these cards are going to be new.
Can we expect new legendary creatures to supplement commander or would that be too complicated? Is there a precedent for legendary creatures being created or reprinted for core sets?
Don't forget half of these cards are going to be new.
Can we expect new legendary creatures to supplement commander or would that be too complicated? Is there a precedent for legendary creatures being created or reprinted for core sets?
So even the core sets will be "Large" sets of around 269 cards each. Which means when we are in full Large set deployment, Standard will have over 2000 cards to pick and chose from. That amounts to a 'free' large set worth of cards.
For example, the Scars to M13 Standard period amounted to 1743 cards total; and that period even had an extra large set in it already (Avacyn Restored). Hopefully that gives Standard the card space needed to deal with everything.
Momir Vig, Simic Visionary Melek, Izzet Paragon Oona, Queen of the Fae Bruna, Light of Alabaster Gisela, Blade of Goldnight Rhys the Redeemed Jarad, Golgari Lich Lord Sen Triplets The Mimeoplasm WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
I will never understand why they need to name every core set with the number of next year, not current one.
Cars have been doing that forever.
Maybe it makes it seem fresher or something?
Pretty much. It gives them a perceived shelf life that lasts until the next one comes out. If Core 2019 was named Core 2018 but came out in 2018, six months after release casual buyers would think "ugh, I don't wanna buy last year's core set."
I will never understand why they need to name every core set with the number of next year, not current one.
Because big retailers like Wal-Mart won't stock products with last year on them, meaning that come Jan 2019, they would stop stocking it if it was called M18. But if it's called M19, they'll stock it in both 2018 and 2019.
Don't forget half of these cards are going to be new.
Can we expect new legendary creatures to supplement commander or would that be too complicated? Is there a precedent for legendary creatures being created or reprinted for core sets?
M15 even had a brand new Multicolored legendary creature in Sliver Hivelord, to go along with what people here have already named.
I always liked core sets. This is a bit bigger than previous ones, so I'm curious about the space. I really liked the guest designer cards in M15 and hope we get some like those (at least the simpler ones). This will be interesting.
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EDH Decks UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition) WRKalemne's Angels BRUG Yidris's Wild Party UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys UBRThe Pretender
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Unrealistic expectations time! I want Liliana of the Veil, Damnation, a strictly better Titans cycle, Lightning Bolt, and Counterspell, or else I'm going to wail about how underpowered and dumbed down the game is getting!
In all seriousness, though, I'm excited that Core Sets are back and I'm hoping staples like Tormod's Crypt and Elixir of Immortality can find their way back.
Maro already stated that they won't be pushing cycles of cards like this due to the power level of the cards continually declining compared to the first card that was actually designed. He barely stated that in metamorphosis 2.0 which is linked to a few posts up.
Maro already stated that they won't be pushing cycles of cards like this due to the power level of the cards continually declining compared to the first card that was actually designed. He barely stated that in metamorphosis 2.0 which is linked to a few posts up.
It's funny how people complain about power levels on some cards because they're weaker than old cards. I remember from back in Stronghold, when Shock was revealed. People complained because it was a weaker Lightning Bolt, yet it gave sligh decks the edge they needed to be competitive in the environment. People need to remember that just because a card is weaker than one that was printed previously, it doesn't mean it is a bad card. It may just be exactly what is needed for its environment to give certain decks the edge they need to be competitive.
Maro already stated that they won't be pushing cycles of cards like this due to the power level of the cards continually declining compared to the first card that was actually designed. He barely stated that in metamorphosis 2.0 which is linked to a few posts up.
It's funny how people complain about power levels on some cards because they're weaker than old cards. I remember from back in Stronghold, when Shock was revealed. People complained because it was a weaker Lightning Bolt, yet it gave sligh decks the edge they needed to be competitive in the environment. People need to remember that just because a card is weaker than one that was printed previously, it doesn't mean it is a bad card. It may just be exactly what is needed for its environment to give certain decks the edge they need to be competitive.
Maro already stated that they won't be pushing cycles of cards like this due to the power level of the cards continually declining compared to the first card that was actually designed. He barely stated that in metamorphosis 2.0 which is linked to a few posts up.
It's funny how people complain about power levels on some cards because they're weaker than old cards. I remember from back in Stronghold, when Shock was revealed. People complained because it was a weaker Lightning Bolt, yet it gave sligh decks the edge they needed to be competitive in the environment. People need to remember that just because a card is weaker than one that was printed previously, it doesn't mean it is a bad card. It may just be exactly what is needed for its environment to give certain decks the edge they need to be competitive.
It's mostly "This card is not the eternal format staple" type of complaint.
That's silly, because people who play Legacy/Vintage have most of the cards they need, and people who play Modern have Modern Masters to fill in gaps. They need to realize that the core sets are not for them, it is for people playing standard and new players. The rest of us have the summer multiplayer products, the commander decks, and the various masters sets and various other auxiliary products to give us stuff. Some people need to realize that not every product is targeted to them specifically..... But I am getting of track here.
Seriously though, the Core sets are great for both new and old players, because half the stuff is new, and I can tell you, there's a reason why the Titans (except primordial) have basically become staples of the commander format, they're just that good, even though they're fairly simple in their design. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we get a new cycle of "titan"esque cards in M19. Very powerful "chase" mythics that are still fairly simple in their design.
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It's about time for the reserved list to die, for the sake of Vintage and Legacy (And Commander).
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Spoiler EditorSet Name: Core 2019
Number of Cards: 269
Prerelease Weekend: July 14-15, 2018
Release Date: July 20, 2018
Magic Online Launch: July 16, 2018
On Sale in Magic Online: July 20, 2018
Draft Weekend: July 21-22, 2018
Official Three-Letter Code: M19
Twitter Hashtag: #MTGM19
Languages Available: English, Chinese Simplified, Chinese Traditional, French, German, Italian, Japanese, Korean, Portuguese, Russian, Spanish
MSRP: $3.99 *Applies to U.S. Only
I wonder of the lack of gameday and protour is cause it's so far in the future
RUNIN: Norse mythology set (awaiting further playtesting)
FATE of ALARA: Multicolour factions (currently on hiatus)
Contibutor to the Pyrulea community set
I'm here to tell you that all your set mechanics are bad
#Defundthepolice
Can we expect new legendary creatures to supplement commander or would that be too complicated? Is there a precedent for legendary creatures being created or reprinted for core sets?
UBRKess, Dissident MageUBR - Controlling Dissidents
GRhonas the IndomitableG - Indomitable Four Drops
WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticWUB - Loot & Renanimate
Trap your friends in an endless game with this 23-card combo!
Yes. Approximately at least.
"The set will be roughly half new cards and half reprints"
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/metamorphosis-2-0-2017-06-12
RUNIN: Norse mythology set (awaiting further playtesting)
FATE of ALARA: Multicolour factions (currently on hiatus)
Contibutor to the Pyrulea community set
I'm here to tell you that all your set mechanics are bad
#Defundthepolice
Yes. M2015 had a number.
RUNIN: Norse mythology set (awaiting further playtesting)
FATE of ALARA: Multicolour factions (currently on hiatus)
Contibutor to the Pyrulea community set
I'm here to tell you that all your set mechanics are bad
#Defundthepolice
Oh you bet your sweet cheeks they do.
Jalira, Master Polymorphist
Yisan, the Wanderer Bard
Kurkesh, Onakke Ancient
And don't forget all those dudes from Magic: Origins
It slipped my mind that core sets each year would re-open the possibilities for more new and unique commanders and I'm hype since you reminded me
-Chandra Nalaar
For example, the Scars to M13 Standard period amounted to 1743 cards total; and that period even had an extra large set in it already (Avacyn Restored). Hopefully that gives Standard the card space needed to deal with everything.
Cars have been doing that forever.
Maybe it makes it seem fresher or something?
Reprint Stasis!
Control needs more love.
EDH:
WUBRGSliver OverlordGRBUW
WUBRGSliver Hivelord(Superfriends)GRBUW
Pretty much. It gives them a perceived shelf life that lasts until the next one comes out. If Core 2019 was named Core 2018 but came out in 2018, six months after release casual buyers would think "ugh, I don't wanna buy last year's core set."
I̟̥͍̠ͅn̩͉̣͍̬͚ͅ ̬̬͖t̯̹̞̺͖͓̯̤h̘͍̬e͙̯͈̖̼̮ ̭̬f̺̲̲̪i͙͉̟̩̰r̪̝͚͈̝̥͍̝̲s̼̻͇̘̳͔ͅt̲̺̳̗̜̪̙ ̳̺̥̻͚̗ͅm̜̜̟̰͈͓͎͇o̝̖̮̝͇m̯̻̞̼̫̗͓̤e̩̯̬̮̩n͎̱̪̲̹͖t͇̖s̰̮ͅ,̤̲͙̻̭̻̯̹̰ ̖t̫̙̺̯͖͚̯ͅh͙̯̦̳̗̰̟e͖̪͉̼̯ ̪͕g̞̣͔a̗̦t̬̬͓͙̫̖̭̻e̩̻̯ ̜̖̦̖̤̭͙̬t̞̹̥̪͎͉ͅo͕͚͍͇̲͇͓̺ ̭̬͙͈̣̻t͈͍͙͓̫̖͙̩h̪̬̖̙e̗͈ ̗̬̟̞̺̤͉̯ͅa̦̯͚̙̜̮f͉͙̲̣̞̼t̪̤̞̣͚e̲͉̳̥r͇̪̙͚͓l̥̞̞͎̹̯̹ͅi͓̬f̮̥̬̞͈ͅe͎ ̟̩̤̳̠̯̩̯o̮̘̲p̟͚̣̞͉͓e͍̩̣n͔̼͕͚̜e̬̱d̼̘͎̖̹͍̮̠,͖̺̭̱̮ ̣̲͖̬̪̭̥a̪͚n̟̲̝̤̤̞̗d̘̱̗͇̮͕̳͕͔ ͖̞͉͎t̹̙͎h̰̱͉̗e̪̞̱̝̹̩ͅ ̠̱̩̭̦p̯̙e͓o̳͚̰̯̺̱̰͔̘p̬͎̱̣̼̩͇l̗̟̖͚̠e̱͉͔̱̦̬̟̙ ̖͚̪͔̼̦w̺̖̤̱e͖̗̻̦͓̖̘̜r̭̥e͔̹̫̱͕̦̰͕ ̗͔̠p̠̗͍͍̱̳̠r̰͔͎̰o͉̥͓̰͚̥s̟͚̹̱͔̣t͉̙̳̖͖̪̮r̥̘̥͙̹a͉̟̫̟̳̠̟̭t͈̜̰͈͎e̞̣̭̲̬ ͚̗̯̟͙i͍͖̰̘̦͖͉ṇ̮̻̯̦̲̩͍ ̦̮͚̫̤t͉͖̫͕ͅͅh͙̮̻̘̣̮̼e͕̺ ͙l͕̠͎̰̥i̲͓͉̲g̫̳̟͈͇̖h̠̦̖t͓̯͎̗ ̳̪̘̟̙̩̦o̫̲f̙͔̰̙̠ ̹̪̗͇̯t͖̼̼͉͖̬h̹͇̩e͚̖̺̤͉̹͕̪ ͚͓̭̝̺G͎̗̯̩o̫̯̮̟̮̳̘d̜̲͙̠-̩̳̯̲̗̜P̹̘̥͉̝h͍͈̗̖̝ͅa͍̗̮̼̗r̜̖͇̙̺a̭̺͔̞̳͈o̪̣͓̯̬͙̯̰̗h̖̦͈̥̯͔.͇̣̙̝
Will we have phasing and banding?
Shu Yun, the Silent Tempest WUR Voltron Control
Temmet, Vizier of Naktamun WU Unblockable Mirror Trickery
Ra's al Ghul (Sidar Kondo) and Face-Down Ninjas
Brudiclad, Token Engineer
Vaevictis (VV2) the Dire Lantern
Rona, Disciple of Gix
Tiana the Auror
Hallar
Ulrich the Politician
Zur the Rebel
Scorpion, Locust, Scarab, Egyptian Gods
O-Kagachi, Mathas, Mairsil
"Non-Tribal" Tribal Generals, Eggs
Because big retailers like Wal-Mart won't stock products with last year on them, meaning that come Jan 2019, they would stop stocking it if it was called M18. But if it's called M19, they'll stock it in both 2018 and 2019.
Maro explains it here.
M15 even had a brand new Multicolored legendary creature in Sliver Hivelord, to go along with what people here have already named.
EDH Decks
UWB Oloro, Ageless Ascetic's spring of life
RUG Animar, Soul of the Elements and friends... lots of them
WBG Karador king of two worlds (value and attrition)
WRKalemne's Angels
BRUG Yidris's Wild Party
UWBR Breya's Terrifying Tinker Toys
UBR The Pretender
I'm hoping for a lot of archetype cards in this set.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
One can hope. But the chance of it happening outside of auxiliary products is sadly close to zero.
That would be pretty cool actually.
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it increases the shelf life of the product, since it is released mid-summer.
In all seriousness, though, I'm excited that Core Sets are back and I'm hoping staples like Tormod's Crypt and Elixir of Immortality can find their way back.
Maro already stated that they won't be pushing cycles of cards like this due to the power level of the cards continually declining compared to the first card that was actually designed. He barely stated that in metamorphosis 2.0 which is linked to a few posts up.
It's funny how people complain about power levels on some cards because they're weaker than old cards. I remember from back in Stronghold, when Shock was revealed. People complained because it was a weaker Lightning Bolt, yet it gave sligh decks the edge they needed to be competitive in the environment. People need to remember that just because a card is weaker than one that was printed previously, it doesn't mean it is a bad card. It may just be exactly what is needed for its environment to give certain decks the edge they need to be competitive.
I fully expect that M19 will contain a lot of staples such as Pacifism, Naturalize, Cancel, a common black removal spell (possibly Murder), and Lightning Strike.
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Numquam evolutioni obstes. Solum conculceris.
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Your post blew my mind - I can't believe how long it's been since some of those cards were in Standard.
I can't help but feel this is why Standard has sucked - it's missing its core (its heart).
It's mostly "This card is not the eternal format staple" type of complaint.
That's silly, because people who play Legacy/Vintage have most of the cards they need, and people who play Modern have Modern Masters to fill in gaps. They need to realize that the core sets are not for them, it is for people playing standard and new players. The rest of us have the summer multiplayer products, the commander decks, and the various masters sets and various other auxiliary products to give us stuff. Some people need to realize that not every product is targeted to them specifically..... But I am getting of track here.
Seriously though, the Core sets are great for both new and old players, because half the stuff is new, and I can tell you, there's a reason why the Titans (except primordial) have basically become staples of the commander format, they're just that good, even though they're fairly simple in their design. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if we get a new cycle of "titan"esque cards in M19. Very powerful "chase" mythics that are still fairly simple in their design.
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Numquam evolutioni obstes. Solum conculceris.
Pascite draconem, evolvite aut morimini.