Ya know, when you think that when you work as, say, a Housekeeper making $10/hr, you're essentially working for an hour with the chance of getting a Tree of Redemption. It's a sad thought. At least if you bought a pack of 4th edition back in the day and you got a Thoughtlace, you only blew $3~ on it.
(The positive thing, if you want to say that, with 4th you still ran the chance of having decent commons and uncommons to make up for the *****ty rare).
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Yeah! 4th edition had AWESOME commons and uncommons! Stuff like Mishra's Factory, Swords to Plowshares, Dark Ritual, Lightning Bolt, Giant Growth, and Counterspell! Completely unlike this product. This product only has garbage commons and uncommons like crappy ol' Mishra's Factory, Swords to Plowshares, Dark Ritual, Lightning Bolt, Giant Growth, and Counterspell.
Pulled:
- Niv-Mizzet, the Firemind
- Eidolon of the Great Revel
- Foil Lightning Bolt
- Phyrexian Obliterator
Basically broke even. Not bad, especially compared to my luck with Iconic Masters (I pulled a mythic rare Channel... Yeah...).
I think I am done with packs of Masters 25. I... Don't want to tempt fate.
I think you lost booster worth of money. obliterator is around 10 euros, eidolon and foil bolt are both about 5-6 and niv is worth less than a roll of cheap toilet paper.
This product only has garbage commons and uncommons like crappy ol' Mishra's Factory, Swords to Plowshares, Dark Ritual, Lightning Bolt, Giant Growth, and Counterspell.
None of these are standard-legal, unlike when they were printed in 4th edition. Most of them are only legal in formats that have even a higher price of entry than modern.
You know, that peculiar thing called demand. People are not demanding dark ritual reprints.
Yeah! 4th edition had AWESOME commons and uncommons! Stuff like Mishra's Factory, Swords to Plowshares, Dark Ritual, Lightning Bolt, Giant Growth, and Counterspell! Completely unlike this product. This product only has garbage commons and uncommons like crappy ol' Mishra's Factory, Swords to Plowshares, Dark Ritual, Lightning Bolt, Giant Growth, and Counterspell.
Right, except the different is that you paid like 60% less per pack than this and those cards were standard legal for the most part. These aren't.
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So the complaint against a 25-years-spanning retrospective set... is that most of its commons and uncommons aren't standard-legal? Does that seem like a fair bar to set?
This product only has garbage commons and uncommons like crappy ol' Mishra's Factory, Swords to Plowshares, Dark Ritual, Lightning Bolt, Giant Growth, and Counterspell.
None of these are standard-legal, unlike when they were printed in 4th edition. Most of them are only legal in formats that have even a higher price of entry than modern.
You know, that peculiar thing called demand. People are not demanding dark ritual reprints.
Commander already has access to those cards. Standard and Modern don’t (have access to all at once).
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Sorry, I missed something? I think he was talking about those cards having almost zero demand, I desagree.
Sure standard and modern have the bigger demand, but if you want 100% legal cards to your format, don't buy a 25 years anniversary box.
Just a quick check on eBay....... 32 Rares are going for .99c
There may be more but the duplicates were getting blurry
Seen anothe 5-10 going for under $2.50
Atleast a 1/3 of the Mythics Under $2.50
Imperial Recruiter and Rishadan Port @ $35
Not exactly a value set I guess.
But did I buy a few Booster draft packs?....I sure did....I am a pack cracker and just cant help myself,however I dont really get upset about it because I know what Im getting into
Yeah! 4th edition had AWESOME commons and uncommons! Stuff like Mishra's Factory, Swords to Plowshares, Dark Ritual, Lightning Bolt, Giant Growth, and Counterspell! Completely unlike this product. This product only has garbage commons and uncommons like crappy ol' Mishra's Factory, Swords to Plowshares, Dark Ritual, Lightning Bolt, Giant Growth, and Counterspell.
Except 4th edition wasn't set at a manufacturers recommended retail price of 10 dollars per pack. I think they were 3 dollars back then? 4th Edition was my favorite one to open for a long while because I loved Hypnotic specter, lightning bolt, etc. This set would have been fine at 120 msrp, but the company is just greedy and putting the price too high.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
4th was awesome. Biased as thats around when I started but I LOVED buying Starter Decks. Bought more than I can remember and yet NEVER pulled a Shivan Dragon and man they were $15-20. So Jealous of those with them at the time.........ahhh the good old days. Never pulled a Balduvian Horde ($20-25 at the time) from Alliances either........and now its a 1c Common.....times they be a changing
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Been a member here for over a dozen years. Playing since '95 just got lost in the twitch shuffle.
Per Mtgstocks, a box of A25 is approximately equal to Iconic, around $120 in expected value. You could have gotten Iconic boxes for $100 each after the recent eBay sale. What a bloodbath...
Per Mtgstocks, a box of A25 is approximately equal to Iconic, around $120 in expected value. You could have gotten Iconic boxes for $100 each after the recent eBay sale. What a bloodbath...
If someone was giving away a pack of Iconic or Masters 25 to me...I'd pick Iconic.
Would rather have a dragon, praetor, or blue spell OVER Stoutarm, Notion Thief, Trisk, Akroma or Tree
Who wouldve thought A25 would end up Worse than IMA
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Been a member here for over a dozen years. Playing since '95 just got lost in the twitch shuffle.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Per Mtgstocks, a box of A25 is approximately equal to Iconic, around $120 in expected value. You could have gotten Iconic boxes for $100 each after the recent eBay sale. What a bloodbath...
If someone was giving away a pack of Iconic or Masters 25 to me...I'd pick Iconic.
Would rather have a dragon, praetor, or blue spell OVER Stoutarm, Notion Thief, Trisk, Akroma or Tree
Who wouldve thought A25 would end up Worse than IMA
I mean that's kind of a silly thing to say. I would also rather have a praetor over tree of redemption. But I'd also rather have ensnaring bridge over channel. (FWIW, the EV of the M25 mythics is much higher than that of the iconic masters mythics, but there are more M25 mythics worth less than $5.)
Good job man! Opening a card that isn't even in the set!
Lol, I meant to say Swords to Plowshares. That other path card always throws me off.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Good job man! Opening a card that isn't even in the set!
Lol, I meant to say Swords to Plowshares. That other path card always throws me off.
Ew that's rough. I only bought 3 packs after I picked up most of the singles I wanted, and I got a Twilight Mire and a Cascade Bluffs.
Those are God packs compared to what most of them are. They are literally running this set like a Powerball ticket with worse prizes and the set should never have been at 240 msrp.
If they want to turn the game around they have to address a ton of secondary market problems on cards. Like, we're talking 4x play set printings of heavily played constructed cards in modern to reset prices and cut back on pure draft sets. They are destroying their own game for no good reason outside of some IOU thing.
Also, no this is not saying the game is going away in a year. Just this is turning into sonic the hedgehog.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
something is defiantly off with this product. I have personally witnessed 5 boxes opened and haven't seen ANY (regular or foil) Kor Firewalker / Fiend Hunter / Simian Spirit Guide / Pillory of the Sleepless. These are uncommons... not opening even one copy of either in 120 booster packs seems way off
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Ya know, when you think that when you work as, say, a Housekeeper making $10/hr, you're essentially working for an hour with the chance of getting a Tree of Redemption. It's a sad thought. At least if you bought a pack of 4th edition back in the day and you got a Thoughtlace, you only blew $3~ on it.
(The positive thing, if you want to say that, with 4th you still ran the chance of having decent commons and uncommons to make up for the *****ty rare).
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I think you lost booster worth of money. obliterator is around 10 euros, eidolon and foil bolt are both about 5-6 and niv is worth less than a roll of cheap toilet paper.
None of these are standard-legal, unlike when they were printed in 4th edition. Most of them are only legal in formats that have even a higher price of entry than modern.
You know, that peculiar thing called demand. People are not demanding dark ritual reprints.
Spirits
Right, except the different is that you paid like 60% less per pack than this and those cards were standard legal for the most part. These aren't.
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I would also be happy with either Sacrifice or, ideally, Burnt Offering.
Spirits
Commander demand anything.
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Sorry, I missed something? I think he was talking about those cards having almost zero demand, I desagree.
Sure standard and modern have the bigger demand, but if you want 100% legal cards to your format, don't buy a 25 years anniversary box.
Just a quick check on eBay....... 32 Rares are going for .99c
There may be more but the duplicates were getting blurry
Seen anothe 5-10 going for under $2.50
Atleast a 1/3 of the Mythics Under $2.50
Imperial Recruiter and Rishadan Port @ $35
Not exactly a value set I guess.
But did I buy a few Booster draft packs?....I sure did....I am a pack cracker and just cant help myself,however I dont really get upset about it because I know what Im getting into
Except 4th edition wasn't set at a manufacturers recommended retail price of 10 dollars per pack. I think they were 3 dollars back then? 4th Edition was my favorite one to open for a long while because I loved Hypnotic specter, lightning bolt, etc. This set would have been fine at 120 msrp, but the company is just greedy and putting the price too high.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
If someone was giving away a pack of Iconic or Masters 25 to me...I'd pick Iconic.
Would rather have a dragon, praetor, or blue spell OVER Stoutarm, Notion Thief, Trisk, Akroma or Tree
Who wouldve thought A25 would end up Worse than IMA
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I mean that's kind of a silly thing to say. I would also rather have a praetor over tree of redemption. But I'd also rather have ensnaring bridge over channel. (FWIW, the EV of the M25 mythics is much higher than that of the iconic masters mythics, but there are more M25 mythics worth less than $5.)
Good job man! Opening a card that isn't even in the set!
WBC Eldrazi & Taxes CBW
UR Keep on Cantripin' (UR Phoenix) RU
WU Surprise! It's not UW Control! (UW Midrange) UW
BG The Rock, Straight BG
U Mono-Blue Fish U
RBW Mardu Pyromancer BWR
RG Rabble! Rabble! (GR Blood Moon Aggro) GR
Legacy
W Death & Taxes W
Lol, I meant to say Swords to Plowshares. That other path card always throws me off.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
(W/U)(B/R)GForm of Progenitus, Shape of a Scrubland
BRGJund Tokens with Prossh, the Magic Dragon Foil
URGAnimar, the RUG CleanerFoil
RRRFeldon of the Third Path 2.0 Foil
BG(B/G)Not Another Meren DeckFoil
UR(U/R)Mizzix, Y Control and X Burn Spells
(W/U)(B/R)GHarold Ramos - The 35 Foot Long Twinkie (In +1/+1 counters)
UB(U/B)Dragonlord Silumgar
Those are God packs compared to what most of them are. They are literally running this set like a Powerball ticket with worse prizes and the set should never have been at 240 msrp.
If they want to turn the game around they have to address a ton of secondary market problems on cards. Like, we're talking 4x play set printings of heavily played constructed cards in modern to reset prices and cut back on pure draft sets. They are destroying their own game for no good reason outside of some IOU thing.
Also, no this is not saying the game is going away in a year. Just this is turning into sonic the hedgehog.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!