At this point I'm two steps from cancelling any pre-orders and just going for a couple boxes of masters 2017 or singles. This is just the saddest excuse of a set I've seen in ages and WoTC is feeling like a robot corporate suite factory more interested in managing reprint equity than getting out a decent set. From what the revealed right now the box doesn't even feel worth 180 usd, let along the 240 msrp.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
The rare land cycle wound up accounting for 5 of the top 9 money cards in mm17. Writing off this set before you’ve seen the equivalently slotted offering here is tremendously premature.
At this point I'm two steps from cancelling any pre-orders and just going for a couple boxes of masters 2017 or singles. This is just the saddest excuse of a set I've seen in ages and WoTC is feeling like a robot corporate suite factory more interested in managing reprint equity than getting out a decent set. From what the revealed right now the box doesn't even feel worth 180 usd, let along the 240 msrp.
Man, don't take this badly or anything, but you're the closest case of stockholm syndrome I've seen on this forum lol
You constantly bash WoTC for their poor product quality, management, etc... and yet, you are buying BOXES of their stuff. I mean... what?
"I hate you WoTC! Now shut up and take my money!"
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I am starting to come around, but still have my usual gripes. That being said, I'll be pleased if we see Doubling Season in the set, but I'll be pissed if it is a mythic, and not a regular rare.
At this point I'm two steps from cancelling any pre-orders and just going for a couple boxes of masters 2017 or singles. This is just the saddest excuse of a set I've seen in ages and WoTC is feeling like a robot corporate suite factory more interested in managing reprint equity than getting out a decent set. From what the revealed right now the box doesn't even feel worth 180 usd, let along the 240 msrp.
Man, don't take this badly or anything, but you're the closest case of stockholm syndrome I've seen on this forum lol
You constantly bash WoTC for their poor product quality, management, etc... and yet, you are buying BOXES of their stuff. I mean... what?
"I hate you WoTC! Now shut up and take my money!"
I know I completely sound insane right now, but this was actually the first time I bought a few boxes of a set to have some fun with in a long time because I actually had some faith that it would be decent. Last years spring set was fine so I figured this one would be okay. That apparently was a very bad position to take.
Well, that's not exactly true. The set could still be better than it seems if the last few spoilers make up for the bad ones they've had. If they have a few cards like Runed Halo, Arcbound Ravager, and Noble Hierarch in the set that could still save it. That and the lands will probably make or break this for people as well.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
They will sell Masters 25 in Wallmart and stuff in US?
Here in Brazil looks like the supply will be absurdly small. The only stores that still have more than 2 or 3 box are selling for at least U$280
Can't you just order a box from another country? In Europe they sell as low as €160, don't know about the US etc tough.
Brazil has a 60% importation tax (product + shipping), so, it isn't a good idea. New boxes are always more expensive here (as any imported thing).
The lowest I saw here was U$211, a month ago, but the supply is very different from Iconic or Modern Masters 2017, looks like each seller has a limit of 20 box (or lower).
The Funny part is that I got some sealed boxes of Shadowmoor for U$248.
I'll trade in any Ports that I crack, c'mon doubling season. C'mon Phyrexian Tower!
Phyrexian Tower is on Reserved List
Damn I think that 3d art of Ensnaring Bridge is uggly as hell. Miss you pencil and ink
Phyrexian tower is not on the reserve list
We still have the mono green mythics to see doubling season has to be one of them
Wow, I was wrong for so long! That is a good new, there isn't any rare from Saga yet, and Phyrexian Tower is the most emblematic card that can be printed. There is a chance
We still haven't gotten any Saga cards yet so, fingers are still crossed.
Again, and I know why, BUT the lack of use of Original Arts on these cards completely ruins alot of cards for me. If they could make a deal and find a way to use some of the originals I would have bought double as many packs as I will now.
In a way I would like an article explaining Why (money or refusals) they couldnt be used. Its a double edged sword though because if the reason is some of my Favorite artists or their estates refuse to release the arts then we would be mad at them instead of WOTC
But for an anniversary set, coming from an original player, its just not the same. In fact its a detriment for me and almost ruins them.
I have no interest in pulling any iconic cards that I wont even recognize. Its such a shame either on WOTC or the old artists.
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Been a member here for over a dozen years. Playing since '95 just got lost in the twitch shuffle.
NO WAY, ANIMAR! Oh boy, my foil singles list is going to be more than a box at this point. Also called the filter lands, but FTV Bolas art, Ash Barrens. Please wizards this is just unfair; take my next paycheck, take all of it. If DS gets printed and anymore of my EDH stuff I think I'm going to max out.
I'm wondering now what is going to be in the next CMD anthology. I thought Prossh and Animar were going to be in the next round of crappy 'premium' foiling along with Mizzix. I guess we'll wait and see wat else gets printed.
I thought Prossh and Animar were going to be in the next round of crappy 'premium' foiling along with Mizzix. I guess we'll wait and see wat else gets printed.
Now now, we don't know if Seize Control is in the next volume of CA2, no need to get my hopes up.
NO WAY, ANIMAR! Oh boy, my foil singles list is going to be more than a box at this point. Also called the filter lands, but FTV Bolas art, Ash Barrens. Please wizards this is just unfair; take my next paycheck, take all of it. If DS gets printed and anymore of my EDH stuff I think I'm going to max out.
I'm wondering now what is going to be in the next CMD anthology. I thought Prossh and Animar were going to be in the next round of crappy 'premium' foiling along with Mizzix. I guess we'll wait and see wat else gets printed.
Good luck on foil animar
Regulars are $30 (but atleast %50 or more of the value will drop after this) but how due to how popular animar is the foils will probably be around $60-$80
I thought Prossh and Animar were going to be in the next round of crappy 'premium' foiling along with Mizzix. I guess we'll wait and see wat else gets printed.
Now now, we don't know if Seize Control is in the next volume of CA2, no need to get my hopes up.
Oh I know, so far I've been right about the filter lands, Animar and Prossh, so I've been pretty on a roll lol.
NO WAY, ANIMAR! Oh boy, my foil singles list is going to be more than a box at this point. Also called the filter lands, but FTV Bolas art, Ash Barrens. Please wizards this is just unfair; take my next paycheck, take all of it. If DS gets printed and anymore of my EDH stuff I think I'm going to max out.
I'm wondering now what is going to be in the next CMD anthology. I thought Prossh and Animar were going to be in the next round of crappy 'premium' foiling along with Mizzix. I guess we'll wait and see wat else gets printed.
Good luck on foil animar
Regulars are $30 (but atleast %50 or more of the value will drop after this) but how due to how popular animar is the foils will probably be around $60-$80
Oh I'm like Randy Moss when he got fined; What's 80 bucks? To me?
I think the set needs a few more hits at rare and uncommon to be generally good. Filter lands were one of the expected cycles, but I was seriously hoping they'd pick a few of the most popular from across sets and put them in. If nothing else than to hint at a strategy being pushed in sealed by that color pair.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
There's still room for some more good high value rares and the uncommons are open field. I've got my fingers crossed for Phyrexian Altar, Bloom Tender, and Doubling Season. Nothings stopping them from printing Demonic Tutor either, though with Vampiric Tutor at mythic that might be a long shot. Plus I think Rhystic Study is a safe bet for the Prophecy card. There's a lot of love for Commander in this set, so I'd be surprised if they choose to reprint Avatar of Woe again over Study.
There's still room for some more good high value rares and the uncommons are open field. I've got my fingers crossed for Phyrexian Altar, Bloom Tender, and Doubling Season. Nothings stopping them from printing Demonic Tutor either, though with Vampiric Tutor at mythic that might be a long shot. Plus I think Rhystic Study is a safe bet for the Prophecy card. There's a lot of love for Commander in this set, so I'd be surprised if they choose to reprint Avatar of Woe again over Study.
There's still room for some more good high value rares and the uncommons are open field. I've got my fingers crossed for Phyrexian Altar, Bloom Tender, and Doubling Season. Nothings stopping them from printing Demonic Tutor either, though with Vampiric Tutor at mythic that might be a long shot. Plus I think Rhystic Study is a safe bet for the Prophecy card. There's a lot of love for Commander in this set, so I'd be surprised if they choose to reprint Avatar of Woe again over Study.
I've been all over DS, Rhystic Study at uncommon would be great. I don't think that Demonic Tutor is high on their list. Mainly because Wizards in Iconic said that Sphinxes were the iconic blue tribe...
I sort of hope Stoneforge Mystic is in, because as much as Jace is indeed the best card to represent Worldwake, he doesn't have the watermark and I really don't want a case where Worldwake is the only set which doesn't have a card with the set watermark simply because of Jace. Yes, I know we could just have a common/uncommon with it when the full spoiler releases, but as long as I don't see a card itself with the watermark, there's the possibility it can still happen and oh boy will that ruin the imagery of having literally every black-bordered watermark possible (with the exception of pure-reprint sets represented by Alpha).
So while I'm still waiting why not ask for arguably the second most representative card (I know manlands are more needed now, but they already ruled themselves out from the number crunch).
I think the set is shaping quite well. Maybe it has to do with using Iconic Masters as reference but I'm warming up to spent a chunk of money in this set.
Wasn't Doubling Season printed three times already? Dunno why people would be head over heels about it.
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At this point I'm two steps from cancelling any pre-orders and just going for a couple boxes of masters 2017 or singles. This is just the saddest excuse of a set I've seen in ages and WoTC is feeling like a robot corporate suite factory more interested in managing reprint equity than getting out a decent set. From what the revealed right now the box doesn't even feel worth 180 usd, let along the 240 msrp.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
The rare land cycle wound up accounting for 5 of the top 9 money cards in mm17. Writing off this set before you’ve seen the equivalently slotted offering here is tremendously premature.
You constantly bash WoTC for their poor product quality, management, etc... and yet, you are buying BOXES of their stuff. I mean... what?
"I hate you WoTC! Now shut up and take my money!"
Read my other stories as well (some ongoing):
Reaper King (a horror story), Kaalia of the Vast (an origin story), Sequels for Innistrad (Alternative sequels for Inn), Grey Areas (Odric's fanfic), Royal Succession (goblins),The Tracker's Message (eldrazi on Innistrad) and Ugin and his Eye (the end of OGW).
Hoping the card from Zendikar is Oracle of Mul Daya as well.
EDH DECKS
Currently under construction
MAGECRAFT STORM
-Veyran, Voice of Duality-
Protection from Degeneracy
Do not pray for an easy life. Pray for the strength to endure a difficult one.
I know I completely sound insane right now, but this was actually the first time I bought a few boxes of a set to have some fun with in a long time because I actually had some faith that it would be decent. Last years spring set was fine so I figured this one would be okay. That apparently was a very bad position to take.
Well, that's not exactly true. The set could still be better than it seems if the last few spoilers make up for the bad ones they've had. If they have a few cards like Runed Halo, Arcbound Ravager, and Noble Hierarch in the set that could still save it. That and the lands will probably make or break this for people as well.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
(W/U)(B/R)GForm of Progenitus, Shape of a Scrubland
BRGJund Tokens with Prossh, the Magic Dragon Foil
URGAnimar, the RUG CleanerFoil
RRRFeldon of the Third Path 2.0 Foil
BG(B/G)Not Another Meren DeckFoil
UR(U/R)Mizzix, Y Control and X Burn Spells
(W/U)(B/R)GHarold Ramos - The 35 Foot Long Twinkie (In +1/+1 counters)
UB(U/B)Dragonlord Silumgar
(W/U)(B/R)GForm of Progenitus, Shape of a Scrubland
BRGJund Tokens with Prossh, the Magic Dragon Foil
URGAnimar, the RUG CleanerFoil
RRRFeldon of the Third Path 2.0 Foil
BG(B/G)Not Another Meren DeckFoil
UR(U/R)Mizzix, Y Control and X Burn Spells
(W/U)(B/R)GHarold Ramos - The 35 Foot Long Twinkie (In +1/+1 counters)
UB(U/B)Dragonlord Silumgar
I think the card should call now "stormbrain".
In a way I would like an article explaining Why (money or refusals) they couldnt be used. Its a double edged sword though because if the reason is some of my Favorite artists or their estates refuse to release the arts then we would be mad at them instead of WOTC
But for an anniversary set, coming from an original player, its just not the same. In fact its a detriment for me and almost ruins them.
I have no interest in pulling any iconic cards that I wont even recognize. Its such a shame either on WOTC or the old artists.
I'm wondering now what is going to be in the next CMD anthology. I thought Prossh and Animar were going to be in the next round of crappy 'premium' foiling along with Mizzix. I guess we'll wait and see wat else gets printed.
(W/U)(B/R)GForm of Progenitus, Shape of a Scrubland
BRGJund Tokens with Prossh, the Magic Dragon Foil
URGAnimar, the RUG CleanerFoil
RRRFeldon of the Third Path 2.0 Foil
BG(B/G)Not Another Meren DeckFoil
UR(U/R)Mizzix, Y Control and X Burn Spells
(W/U)(B/R)GHarold Ramos - The 35 Foot Long Twinkie (In +1/+1 counters)
UB(U/B)Dragonlord Silumgar
Now now, we don't know if Seize Control is in the next volume of CA2, no need to get my hopes up.
EDH DECKS
Currently under construction
MAGECRAFT STORM
-Veyran, Voice of Duality-
Protection from Degeneracy
Do not pray for an easy life. Pray for the strength to endure a difficult one.
Good luck on foil animar
Regulars are $30 (but atleast %50 or more of the value will drop after this) but how due to how popular animar is the foils will probably be around $60-$80
Oh I know, so far I've been right about the filter lands, Animar and Prossh, so I've been pretty on a roll lol.
Oh I'm like Randy Moss when he got fined; What's 80 bucks? To me?
(W/U)(B/R)GForm of Progenitus, Shape of a Scrubland
BRGJund Tokens with Prossh, the Magic Dragon Foil
URGAnimar, the RUG CleanerFoil
RRRFeldon of the Third Path 2.0 Foil
BG(B/G)Not Another Meren DeckFoil
UR(U/R)Mizzix, Y Control and X Burn Spells
(W/U)(B/R)GHarold Ramos - The 35 Foot Long Twinkie (In +1/+1 counters)
UB(U/B)Dragonlord Silumgar
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Your correct on demonic tutor the mono black mythic slots taken by phyrexian obliterator and doomsday doesn't stop it from rare
Because it got printed at uncommon once (bad news that printing was a duel deck) as a matter of fact it was in duel deck anothology
(W/U)(B/R)GForm of Progenitus, Shape of a Scrubland
BRGJund Tokens with Prossh, the Magic Dragon Foil
URGAnimar, the RUG CleanerFoil
RRRFeldon of the Third Path 2.0 Foil
BG(B/G)Not Another Meren DeckFoil
UR(U/R)Mizzix, Y Control and X Burn Spells
(W/U)(B/R)GHarold Ramos - The 35 Foot Long Twinkie (In +1/+1 counters)
UB(U/B)Dragonlord Silumgar
As the other green mythic it's probably either doubling season or tooth and nail
So while I'm still waiting why not ask for arguably the second most representative card (I know manlands are more needed now, but they already ruled themselves out from the number crunch).
Wasn't Doubling Season printed three times already? Dunno why people would be head over heels about it.