The main thing I want to see is the mana base. Haven of the Spirit Dragon and the other land from Khans isn't going to be enough mana fixing. Chromatic Lantern and a variety of those tri-colored tap lands will have to be made. They won't make new lands for Legacy purposes.
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The main thing I want to see is the mana base. Haven of the Spirit Dragon and the other land from Khans isn't going to be enough mana fixing. Chromatic Lantern and a variety of those tri-colored tap lands will have to be made. They won't make new lands for Legacy purposes.
WoTC needs to strap on a pair and finish the signet land cycle already!! (Ex Sungrass Prairie
Okay. We get it. You're disappointed. You would've made him overpowered. Can we PLEASE move on?
Most of what I've gotten from this thread is actually that O-Kagachi's card would've become much less powerful, as a slight increase in P/T would, naturally, mean a slight increase in mana cost, in which situation we'd probably end up with a much weaker card.
It isn't playable anyways, he is slow, has an effect that doesn't do much and doesn't support his tribe mechanics. (either tribe)
Ur-Dragon at least has the ability to speed up your early game and in the off chance things go long enough to cast him..you can draw some cards.
Yeah WoC can't really win, but people still buy it. I think, that the C16 decks (Atraxa, Breya, Yidris) were overpowered, so this might be an easing up off he pedal for wizards.
But I'm still waiting for the announcement of June so we can see if these are fake or not (C17 set symbol reveal)
When in June are they announcing stuff anyway?
I really need to know if if ever one ends up being an Angel tribal, because I frikkin know the supply of it would be hard to get by if ever....
Moppi what if the Angel deck had male art versions of popular generic angels like Twilight Shepherd etc. Pretty shirtless white boy angels with lovely wings and muscles. Carrying swords.
This is what magic means to me ladies and gentleangels.
Personally want beautiful men and women as angels, it's all I ask. Oh and Kamigawa book characters and my signature characters on cards.
Moppi what if the Angel deck had male art versions of popular generic angels like Twilight Shepherd etc. Pretty shirtless white boy angels with lovely wings and muscles. Carrying swords.
This is what magic means to me ladies and gentleangels.
Personally want beautiful men and women as angels, it's all I ask. Oh and Kamigawa book characters and my signature characters on cards.
You know what, HOW DARE YOU?...... How dare you keep my hopes up way high than it is?
It will be akin to already being floored by the male angels in Amonkhet and then being floored down through the Earth's mantle if such a thing happens.
But I am realistic, it would be more than enough for me than if ever an Angel Tribal is within the ranks of this Commander, Gabriel Angelfire gets a reboot or Kinidiern (the male angel paragon that appeared in Serra's Realm in the Planeswalker novel) gets a card.
But first, I really need to know if it ends up materializing... I need MOAR leaks and/or that June Announcement time to come already!
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It isn't playable anyways, he is slow, has an effect that doesn't do much and doesn't support his tribe mechanics. (either tribe)
Ur-Dragon at least has the ability to speed up your early game and in the off chance things go long enough to cast him..you can draw some cards.
Agreed. But it would be even worse if it was an 11/11 that had a CMC of 10.
No, not really. Unplayable Trash is Unplayable trash. It is already a 0/10 card in every way, taking it into a huge monster with a higher mana cost changes nothing about why it is a terrible card. Heck at least at 11/11 it has a chance to do something relevant if you manage to sneak it through and dump a Temur Battle Rage on it, that is at least -an- edge case for it to do something at all.
But I'm still waiting for the announcement of June so we can see if these are fake or not (C17 set symbol reveal)
When in June are they announcing stuff anyway?
I really need to know if if ever one ends up being an Angel tribal, because I frikkin know the supply of it would be hard to get by if ever....
Sorry, it's going to be Dragons, Goblins, Elves, and Slivers. (But if not those, then Zombies, Angels, Demons, Soldiers and Wizards are my next-up guesses)
But I'm still waiting for the announcement of June so we can see if these are fake or not (C17 set symbol reveal)
When in June are they announcing stuff anyway?
I really need to know if if ever one ends up being an Angel tribal, because I frikkin know the supply of it would be hard to get by if ever....
Sorry, it's going to be Dragons, Goblins, Elves, and Slivers. (But if not those, then Zombies, Angels, Demons, Soldiers and Wizards are my next-up guesses)
But I'm still waiting for the announcement of June so we can see if these are fake or not (C17 set symbol reveal)
When in June are they announcing stuff anyway?
I really need to know if if ever one ends up being an Angel tribal, because I frikkin know the supply of it would be hard to get by if ever....
Sorry, it's going to be Dragons, Goblins, Elves, and Slivers. (But if not those, then Zombies, Angels, Demons, Soldiers and Wizards are my next-up guesses)
But I'm still waiting for the announcement of June so we can see if these are fake or not (C17 set symbol reveal)
When in June are they announcing stuff anyway?
I really need to know if if ever one ends up being an Angel tribal, because I frikkin know the supply of it would be hard to get by if ever....
Sorry, it's going to be Dragons, Goblins, Elves, and Slivers. (But if not those, then Zombies, Angels, Demons, Soldiers and Wizards are my next-up guesses)
A small note that might be interesting (or not).
The artist credited in Taigam, Ojutai Master seems to be Simon Dominic, who is a real life illustrator and concept artist.
At the moment on the gatherer he is not selectable as an artist, so if the card is legit then this would be the first time some of his art is being printed on a card. (afaik)
Also the artist credited on Ramos seems to be named Joseph M(can't read the rest of the surname)... and Joseph Meehan is an illustrator who started working on card arts as far back as dragons of tarkir.
We are going find out on Wednesday if it's real or not
I highly doubt Slivers because slivers are notoriously unfun to play mirror matches with... and it is kind of hard to make any new slivers that havent laready been done before at this point..
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I highly doubt Slivers because slivers are notoriously unfun to play mirror matches with... and it is kind of hard to make any new slivers that havent laready been done before at this point..
Maybe I am missing something but I could of sworn their weren't Slivers with Unearth, Hexproof, Cascade, Suspend, Devour, Infect or Kinship just as a few examples used by creatures. Then their is also the prospect of several enchantments that Slivers could mimic like with Firewake Sliver mimicking Yavimaya Fire in which they could reasonably add something like Call to the Grave as a Sliver for Slivers. They also have demonstrated the capability to mimic instants and sorceries such as with Necrotic Sliver mimicking Vindicate. They also have mimicked other creatures such as with Psionic Sliver mimicking Psionic Entity.
Basically what I'm getting at here, is that really the sky is the limit for what Slivers can do.
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WoTC needs to strap on a pair and finish the signet land cycle already!! (Ex Sungrass Prairie
http://www.mtgsalvation.com/forums/magic-fundamentals/magic-general/334931-what-is-the-most-pimp-card-deck-youve-seen-or?comment=5361
Commander
RGOmnath, Locus of Rage Grenades! EDHGR
UWSygg's Defense, EDH - Voltron & ControlWU
BUGMimeoplasm EDH ft. Ifnir Cycling-discard comboBUG
WBTeysa, Connoisseur of CullingBW
BWSelenia & Recruiter of the Guard suicice combo EDHWB
UBRWGO-Kagachi - 5 Color Enchantments - EDHUBRWG
Most of what I've gotten from this thread is actually that O-Kagachi's card would've become much less powerful, as a slight increase in P/T would, naturally, mean a slight increase in mana cost, in which situation we'd probably end up with a much weaker card.
It isn't playable anyways, he is slow, has an effect that doesn't do much and doesn't support his tribe mechanics. (either tribe)
Ur-Dragon at least has the ability to speed up your early game and in the off chance things go long enough to cast him..you can draw some cards.
Dragons of Legend, Lead by Scion of the UR-Dragon
The Gitrog Monster
Gonti, Lord of Luxury
Shogun Saskia
Hive World
Atraxa hates fun
Abzan
(W/U)(B/R)GForm of Progenitus, Shape of a Scrubland
BRGJund Tokens with Prossh, the Magic Dragon Foil
URGAnimar, the RUG CleanerFoil
RRRFeldon of the Third Path 2.0 Foil
BG(B/G)Not Another Meren DeckFoil
UR(U/R)Mizzix, Y Control and X Burn Spells
(W/U)(B/R)GHarold Ramos - The 35 Foot Long Twinkie (In +1/+1 counters)
UB(U/B)Dragonlord Silumgar
But I'm still waiting for the announcement of June so we can see if these are fake or not (C17 set symbol reveal)
When in June are they announcing stuff anyway?
I really need to know if if ever one ends up being an Angel tribal, because I frikkin know the supply of it would be hard to get by if ever....
Serra Stan - Angel Enthusiast - Garruk and Tyvar thirsty follower - Flavor and Art Enthusiast
This is what magic means to me ladies and gentleangels.
Personally want beautiful men and women as angels, it's all I ask. Oh and Kamigawa book characters and my signature characters on cards.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
You know what, HOW DARE YOU?...... How dare you keep my hopes up way high than it is?
It will be akin to already being floored by the male angels in Amonkhet and then being floored down through the Earth's mantle if such a thing happens.
But I am realistic, it would be more than enough for me than if ever an Angel Tribal is within the ranks of this Commander, Gabriel Angelfire gets a reboot or Kinidiern (the male angel paragon that appeared in Serra's Realm in the Planeswalker novel) gets a card.
But first, I really need to know if it ends up materializing... I need MOAR leaks and/or that June Announcement time to come already!
Serra Stan - Angel Enthusiast - Garruk and Tyvar thirsty follower - Flavor and Art Enthusiast
Agreed. But it would be even worse if it was an 11/11 that had a CMC of 10.
No, not really. Unplayable Trash is Unplayable trash. It is already a 0/10 card in every way, taking it into a huge monster with a higher mana cost changes nothing about why it is a terrible card. Heck at least at 11/11 it has a chance to do something relevant if you manage to sneak it through and dump a Temur Battle Rage on it, that is at least -an- edge case for it to do something at all.
Dragons of Legend, Lead by Scion of the UR-Dragon
The Gitrog Monster
Gonti, Lord of Luxury
Shogun Saskia
Hive World
Atraxa hates fun
Abzan
Sorry, it's going to be Dragons, Goblins, Elves, and Slivers. (But if not those, then Zombies, Angels, Demons, Soldiers and Wizards are my next-up guesses)
Wrong elves is not happen
http://magic.wizards.com/en/products/card-set-archive/commander-2014/guided-by-nature
They already did elf tribal in commander 2014
And goblins hav Ben done to death and have enough stuff for a tribal (but still possible)
Slivers is a decent chance because they are most known for edh.
And wrong again on angels not happening.
They are right up there with dragons on popular and interesting I would not even be relevativly suprised if angels got a spot.
And merfolk getting a esper commander can be a thing
And here's your biggest mistake the director said one of the tribes (decks) is unexspected none of those on the list are unexspected.
That could be Eldrazi/insect/spirit (o-kagachi doesn't kill their chances)/snake/werewolf (they said avoiding dfc in products like these.)
Do you know what opinions are?
Yep I know a opinion and they can't be changed. I'm just pointing out some stuff.
We are going find out on Wednesday if it's real or not
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/news/announcement-week-coming-2017-06-08
Wednesday is upcoming products.
Basicly they should reveal the set symbol of commander 2017 if it matches perfectly with the leaks that's it real if not it's fake.
Indeed I agree with you.
I only said this incase you didn't know.
Hope for speculation to end as well.
And I might get all 4 regardless.
I really hope one is spirit despite O-Kagachi being in dragons.( there's still other legendary spirits that never got a printing yet.)
This aint your girlfriends meta! This is a man's meta! TURBO META.
Basically what I'm getting at here, is that really the sky is the limit for what Slivers can do.