If they did Slivers, who could they possibly do for the new Legendary Sliver commander? Every Sliver Legend alluded to in flavor texts we have. Will they give us the original Sliver that all the Legendary Slivers we have derived from? Will we get the Legendary Sliver lord of the Future Sighted Slivers as that is the only one we know nothing about (assuming the Future Sighted Slivers have a Legendary nest lord)?
I have a new Theory from all the legends that never got cards.
We are getting Tribal Wizards with the Numena (the wizards that took down the Primeval Dragons) as Commanders.
Stop, stop! My loins can only get so fruitful...
I do need more Kuberr in my life, perhaps with an ability that makes him larger whenever something dies (or is that too simple? give it more perhaps). Averru would be interesting as a land, considering that he eventually manifested as a whole city. As for Lowallyn, we already HAD Ixidor, but it goes without saying that we could benefit from a multicolor (although Lowallyn is traditionally blue, of course) morph commander.
Please though, I'm soaking.
~Lil Kalki
EDIT: Zagorka. Maybe Human Tribal? And Averru can be played as a commander??? It would be neat to have a land do that, so as to solve some degree of mana screw lol (youd have to give it a definitive color id though - perhaps all colors?)
If they did Slivers, who could they possibly do for the new Legendary Sliver commander? Every Sliver Legend alluded to in flavor texts we have. Will they give us the original Sliver that all the Legendary Slivers we have derived from? Will we get the Legendary Sliver lord of the Future Sighted Slivers as that is the only one we know nothing about (assuming the Future Sighted Slivers have a Legendary nest lord)?
Since all 5-color decks is a possible now because of the leak
I can tell you a type of sliver not done yet is cost reduction
If they did Slivers, who could they possibly do for the new Legendary Sliver commander? Every Sliver Legend alluded to in flavor texts we have. Will they give us the original Sliver that all the Legendary Slivers we have derived from? Will we get the Legendary Sliver lord of the Future Sighted Slivers as that is the only one we know nothing about (assuming the Future Sighted Slivers have a Legendary nest lord)?
You are forgetting the "new" Shandalar slivers. It's for the better that you did, but they exist.
The Shandalar legend is Sliver Hivelord, showing the "evolution link" between the humanoid slivers and the more traditional ones.
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If they did Slivers, who could they possibly do for the new Legendary Sliver commander? Every Sliver Legend alluded to in flavor texts we have. Will they give us the original Sliver that all the Legendary Slivers we have derived from? Will we get the Legendary Sliver lord of the Future Sighted Slivers as that is the only one we know nothing about (assuming the Future Sighted Slivers have a Legendary nest lord)?
Since all 5-color decks is a possible now because of the leak
I can tell you a type of sliver not done yet is cost reduction
People hating on O-Kagachi are forgetting this is the version without his heart. If he had his heart he would be bigger and come into play with a divinity counter like a Kami, which would make him indestructible. Because his heart was taken out he became smaller, weaker and was ultimately defeated by Michiko Konda and his Daughter. So he is fair for the power level he is at now. With his heart he should have been printed much stronger, I agree.
Even without Kyodai, O-Kagachi was still the most powerful and most fearsome Kami of all. He was remarkably powerful. The descriptions alone warrant a 10/10 at least.
People hating on O-Kagachi are forgetting this is the version without his heart. If he had his heart he would be bigger and come into play with a divinity counter like a Kami, which would make him indestructible. Because his heart was taken out he became smaller, weaker and was ultimately defeated by Michiko Konda and his Daughter. So he is fair for the power level he is at now. With his heart he should have been printed much stronger, I agree.
Even without Kyodai, O-Kagachi was still the most powerful and most fearsome Kami of all. He was remarkably powerful. The descriptions alone warrant a 10/10 at least.
Power and toughness shouldn't be used as a way to figure out anything about flavor. Thats why you get philosophers wrestling bears or Emmara Tandris being able to take a Sun Titan and rats and bugs able to take down most humans.
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“There are no weak Jews. I am descended from those who wrestle angels and kill giants. We were chosen by God. You were chosen by a pathetic little man who can't seem to grow a full mustache"
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
I think you're having some serious Segovian Syndrome.
Certainly you've seen the post that there were about...what...15 creatures in all of Kamigawa with high power/toughness combinations? O-Kagachi may not be big compared to, say, a Phyrexian Dreadnought but on Kamigawa he is a giant.
Why should Myojin of Life's Web be larger? I would have designed the card differently. That said, you all know damn well I want O-Kagachi card and will celebrate it as a treasured commander. But having it be a Timmy classic would have been nice.
I wonder if we'll get a Mono-Red Thraxes here?
Could the unexpected tribe be Krakens? Please don't make Arixmethes anything but Mono-Blue when the card is made. That's a creature we know should be a 12/12.
The Skep, the Central Hive is the only legendary permanent mentioned in Sliver lore that we don't have. Would be cool if they released it as a Legendary Tribal Land - Sliver for a specialty supplemental like this in order to give us Tribal card types.
Even without Kyodai, O-Kagachi was still the most powerful and most fearsome Kami of all. He was remarkably powerful. The descriptions alone warrant a 10/10 at least.
That was before his heads were binded until 2 were left and then he got reduced to the size of a normal snake, then Michiko Konda and Kyodai bit his remaining 2 heads off. Now you are seeing a version that is slowly recovering from this injury.
If they brought dragons, there's going to be angels. I think there are some interesting options for multiplayer commander such as Haunted Angel, Serra Advocate, Archangel of Strife, and Angelic Page that provide some gaming of the politics. They may also do a spirit mix with the angels to fill in the lower tiers and go with choices like Requiem Angel and Angel of Flight Alabaster. The primary issue angels have is there are so few good low cmc angels that it gets difficult to flush out the ranks. The page and Serra Avenger are the two lowest, with Emancipation Angel coming in at 3 cmc.
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Power and toughness shouldn't be used as a way to figure out anything about flavor. Thats why you get philosophers wrestling bears or Emmara Tandris being able to take a Sun Titan and rats and bugs able to take down most humans.
The whole point of O-Kagachi was without his divinity, he was still able to steamroll Konda's army without paying attention and cleave into two Yosei and the strongest Oni of all of Kamigawa with the smallest amount of annoyance.... without using all of his 8 heads. In fact he steamrolled Konda's army with a mere 3 heads, which was well, depicted in a way.
"O-Kagachi was weakened" doesn't feel like any excuse when it was canonically stated in that weakened form he was pretty much still the most powerful being on the plane. The only possibly contenders were the Myojin, but they were all shown to be still subservient to O-Kagachi. It took pretty much the one thing that he was missing from complete invulnerability to kill him (Michiko was clearly just a beneficent of Kyodai in that entire fight) and that one thing was sealed for majority of the story until the very end.
With the title of "Eight-Headed Serpent" and mentions that the Life's Web was probably the closest Kami to him, O-Kagachi not being an 8/8 just doesn't feel right. It's not a matter of gameplay, it's every flavor involving him pointing that direction.
I'm just going to assume this O-Kagachi was his 6-headed form when he chased after Toshiro at Minamo Academy and not the 8-headed one that nullified all non-Kyodai Magic, the same way Final Judgment was probably his 3-headed form at Eiganjo. Too bad the flavor text doesn't support it, so the majority of people (not here, just overall across the game) won't know exactly how powerful O-Kagachi was despite being weakened, if they thought weakened O-Kagachi at full strength was this 6/6 form.
Power and toughness shouldn't be used as a way to figure out anything about flavor. Thats why you get philosophers wrestling bears or Emmara Tandris being able to take a Sun Titan and rats and bugs able to take down most humans.
The whole point of O-Kagachi was without his divinity, he was still able to steamroll Konda's army without paying attention and cleave into two Yosei and the strongest Oni of all of Kamigawa with the smallest amount of annoyance.... without using all of his 8 heads. In fact he steamrolled Konda's army with a mere 3 heads, which was well, depicted in a way.
"O-Kagachi was weakened" doesn't feel like any excuse when it was canonically stated in that weakened form he was pretty much still the most powerful being on the plane. The only possibly contenders were the Myojin, but they were all shown to be still subservient to O-Kagachi. It took pretty much the one thing that he was missing from complete invulnerability to kill him (Michiko was clearly just a beneficent of Kyodai in that entire fight) and that one thing was sealed for majority of the story until the very end.
With the title of "Eight-Headed Serpent" and mentions that the Life's Web was probably the closest Kami to him, O-Kagachi not being an 8/8 just doesn't feel right. It's not a matter of gameplay, it's every flavor involving him pointing that direction.
I'm just going to assume this O-Kagachi was his 6-headed form when he chased after Toshiro at Minamo Academy and not the 8-headed one that nullified all non-Kyodai Magic, the same way Final Judgment was probably his 3-headed form at Eiganjo. Too bad the flavor text doesn't support it, so the majority of people (not here, just overall across the game) won't know exactly how powerful O-Kagachi was despite being weakened, if they thought weakened O-Kagachi at full strength was this 6/6 form.
Speaking of Spirits, I was running through creature types on TCGPlayer and I think if they were going to make a commander deck without breaking the bank (dragons kind of fit that bill pretty well), spirits is very likely. There are so many of them that it should be possible to make a deck that has some kind of strategy to it that goes beyond just playing spirits. I tried piecing together fairies, but faeries on their own just don't have the variety and power to work alone in commander, much like ninja. Pure faeries would have to be a spells focused deck with faerie tribal as the support. Meanwhile, spirits can stand on their own two feet and can draw from so many different sources it's maddening.
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2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Power and toughness shouldn't be used as a way to figure out anything about flavor. Thats why you get philosophers wrestling bears or Emmara Tandris being able to take a Sun Titan and rats and bugs able to take down most humans.
The whole point of O-Kagachi was without his divinity, he was still able to steamroll Konda's army without paying attention and cleave into two Yosei and the strongest Oni of all of Kamigawa with the smallest amount of annoyance.... without using all of his 8 heads. In fact he steamrolled Konda's army with a mere 3 heads, which was well, depicted in a way.
"O-Kagachi was weakened" doesn't feel like any excuse when it was canonically stated in that weakened form he was pretty much still the most powerful being on the plane. The only possibly contenders were the Myojin, but they were all shown to be still subservient to O-Kagachi. It took pretty much the one thing that he was missing from complete invulnerability to kill him (Michiko was clearly just a beneficent of Kyodai in that entire fight) and that one thing was sealed for majority of the story until the very end.
With the title of "Eight-Headed Serpent" and mentions that the Life's Web was probably the closest Kami to him, O-Kagachi not being an 8/8 just doesn't feel right. It's not a matter of gameplay, it's every flavor involving him pointing that direction.
I'm just going to assume this O-Kagachi was his 6-headed form when he chased after Toshiro at Minamo Academy and not the 8-headed one that nullified all non-Kyodai Magic, the same way Final Judgment was probably his 3-headed form at Eiganjo. Too bad the flavor text doesn't support it, so the majority of people (not here, just overall across the game) won't know exactly how powerful O-Kagachi was despite being weakened, if they thought weakened O-Kagachi at full strength was this 6/6 form.
I'd have even been disappointed in an 8/8. And this isn't even accounting for the passive ability they gave to such a ferocious divinity that even the Sisters fought long and hard to subdue and defeat. His size was emphasized most in the novels, a respectable P/T was the least I would expect.
As for abilities… it's awkwardly benign. People in EDH don't frequently attack unless they have a massive army of tokens or have built up respectable field advantage. Going aggressive early is met with disapproval and fear from the table, and not making attacks count can make an game-long enemy out of someone. O-Kagachi will just mean "attack me when you can game me only" (which most would do anyway) and even then, his effect is so conditional people can easily avoid it at several different steps. Eliminate the player, stop them from attacking, block it, exile/destroy it before trigger, etc. It's not a hard deterrent to anything.
I'd have even been disappointed in an 8/8. And this isn't even accounting for the passive ability they gave to such a ferocious divinity that even the Sisters fought long and hard to subdue and defeat. His size was emphasized most in the novels, a respectable P/T was the least I would expect.
As for abilities… it's awkwardly benign. People in EDH don't frequently attack unless they have a massive army of tokens or have built up respectable field advantage. Going aggressive early is met with disapproval and fear from the table, and not making attacks count can make an game-long enemy out of someone. O-Kagachi will just mean "attack me when you can game me only" (which most would do anyway) and even then, his effect is so conditional people can easily avoid it at several different steps. Eliminate the player, stop them from attacking, block it, exile/destroy it before trigger, etc. It's not a hard deterrent to anything.
Trample does also help in conveying size. There are only 3creatures in Kamigawa (not counting those who vary in P/T) that are 8/8 or bigger and none of them have trample, so personally I could let it pass. The only creature with power 8 and trample has a toughness of 5 and arguably represents an entire body of forests of the plane. I think we'll just have to agree we have different standards here.
I'm not going to deny gameplay-wise, O-Kagachi is definitely weak, but I based the whole thing on an flavor event that happened (All-Consuming attacks and gets halved/exiled for his efforts). I explained the whole bunch over at the storyline section (where it's more appropriate) so I don't think I'm going to repeat it here, except for the part where I think this is less of an actual Legendary Creature, but more of an event (like Final Judgment), except O-Kagachi is so devastating and powerful that instead of a sorcery/instant, his action is imprinted as a longer-lasting creature form instead.
I'd have even been disappointed in an 8/8. And this isn't even accounting for the passive ability they gave to such a ferocious divinity that even the Sisters fought long and hard to subdue and defeat. His size was emphasized most in the novels, a respectable P/T was the least I would expect.
As for abilities… it's awkwardly benign. People in EDH don't frequently attack unless they have a massive army of tokens or have built up respectable field advantage. Going aggressive early is met with disapproval and fear from the table, and not making attacks count can make an game-long enemy out of someone. O-Kagachi will just mean "attack me when you can game me only" (which most would do anyway) and even then, his effect is so conditional people can easily avoid it at several different steps. Eliminate the player, stop them from attacking, block it, exile/destroy it before trigger, etc. It's not a hard deterrent to anything.
Trample does also help in conveying size. There are only 3creatures in Kamigawa (not counting those who vary in P/T) that are 8/8 or bigger and none of them have trample, so personally I could let it pass. The only creature with power 8 and trample has a toughness of 5 and arguably represents an entire body of forests of the plane. I think we'll just have to agree we have different standards here.
I'm not going to deny gameplay-wise, O-Kagachi is definitely weak, but I based the whole thing on an flavor event that happened (All-Consuming attacks and gets halved/exiled for his efforts). I explained the whole bunch over at the storyline section (where it's more appropriate) so I don't think I'm going to repeat it here, except for the part where I think this is less of an actual Legendary Creature, but more of an event (like Final Judgment), except O-Kagachi is so devastating and powerful that instead of a sorcery/instant, his action is imprinted as a longer-lasting creature form instead.
I think wizards are gun shy about printing anything more on the level of the Eldrazi legendary titans. In standard they are pretty hard to cast, but commander games can go on for a while, especially in multiplayer. I'm just surprised there was no Balefire Dragon in the spoilers or Thundermaw Hellkite.
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2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
The eldrazi are fine. The problem is that if you print something like that only in a commander deck you might cause it to become absurdly expensive. I doubt it would be a problem with a 5 color card unless it were an insanely good cheat target for legacy. Of course, new eldrazi titans in a commander deck might be fine as long as you make them cost colorless mana, not fully generic and give a lot of the power to the cast triggers.
Head-canon (literally) for the Vorthos-crowd: O-Kagachi, Vengeful Kami represents one head. That's why the creature card exiles only one permanent at a time and real O-Kagachi can do Final Judgment.
Now build your flavor-deck with eight of these as your commander and find satisfaction in eating armies for the low cost of almost fifty mana.
I'm going to repeat that a summarily defeated and weakened O-Kagachi should not be 9/9 or 10/10. His flavorful ability explains why he was able to destroy an indestructible Konda, too. As the only player on my team, I will state that he is fine for where he is at in power at the end of the story. Maybe it's not the peak power version everybody wanted to see, but at least he is a balanced general, unlike Ur-Dragon which I find utterly too pushed.
Power and toughness shouldn't be used as a way to figure out anything about flavor. Thats why you get philosophers wrestling bears or Emmara Tandris being able to take a Sun Titan and rats and bugs able to take down most humans.
While it's true that there is some give and take regarding flavor and power/toughness, your average Giant shouldn't be a 1/1 or 2/2. Take note that Emmara is accompanied by Elementals (similar to my explanation as to how Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts is a 4/4 with vigilance) and that a good number of rats and bugs are toxic little buggers.
My greatest reservation so far though is with the winmore Cat Dragon.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
The eldrazi are fine. The problem is that if you print something like that only in a commander deck you might cause it to become absurdly expensive. I doubt it would be a problem with a 5 color card unless it were an insanely good cheat target for legacy. Of course, new eldrazi titans in a commander deck might be fine as long as you make them cost colorless mana, not fully generic and give a lot of the power to the cast triggers.
Absolutely
As a matter fact just add C to "The UR-Dragon" converted mana cost that might be the cost of the new Titans
If 5-color Eldrazi happens anyway, the reasons it's possible is this dragon deck got a five color deck and the others could be as well, and there have Ben many attempts by people of making a Eldrazi tribal with colors (the devoid eldrazis)
You wouldn't need the colorless if you made 5 color titans. They would be as limited as the Ur Dragon.
Yeah, it does suck that the O-Kagachi we got is only a 6/6 but it is a decent commander for people that would run the Invasion/Planar Chaos dragons. Of course, we were also told that the great old Kami was too powerful to be represented on a card. While that might not be true nowdays, a true to the lore one might be on par with Emrakul. You'd probably have to design it with a lot of the power in a cast trigger to not make it a high dollar reanimation target or something.
5 colored Constructs could be a thing. 125 Constructs available, more than enough, most of them work with +1/+1 counters and yet not a single Legendary Construct. Would be nice as the unexpected tribe.
Looking at your avatar I started wondering if ooze tribal could exist. Going to have to check on TCGPlayer or one of the magic card search engines to see what comes up...
Edit: Omg it is. I never noticed this, but just about the majority of oozes are +1/+1 counter fiends. They have so many different abilities involving counters it's nuts, and they even have one that makes other creatures into themselves. It's like complete insanity. Anything that isn't strictly an ooze can be a changling from lorwyn since those are all creature types.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Stop, stop! My loins can only get so fruitful...
I do need more Kuberr in my life, perhaps with an ability that makes him larger whenever something dies (or is that too simple? give it more perhaps). Averru would be interesting as a land, considering that he eventually manifested as a whole city. As for Lowallyn, we already HAD Ixidor, but it goes without saying that we could benefit from a multicolor (although Lowallyn is traditionally blue, of course) morph commander.
Please though, I'm soaking.
~Lil Kalki
EDIT: Zagorka. Maybe Human Tribal? And Averru can be played as a commander??? It would be neat to have a land do that, so as to solve some degree of mana screw lol (youd have to give it a definitive color id though - perhaps all colors?)
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Since all 5-color decks is a possible now because of the leak
I can tell you a type of sliver not done yet is cost reduction
Here's the types of slivers known
Are new slivers will probably be ones we don't have on the list yet.
The Shandalar legend is Sliver Hivelord, showing the "evolution link" between the humanoid slivers and the more traditional ones.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
I still want Dominarian Slivers able to bestow lifelink, deathtouch, hexproof, an activation ability to fight another target creature, and prowess.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Power and toughness shouldn't be used as a way to figure out anything about flavor. Thats why you get philosophers wrestling bears or Emmara Tandris being able to take a Sun Titan and rats and bugs able to take down most humans.
"You can tell how dumb someone is by how they use Mary Sue"
I wonder if we'll get a Mono-Red Thraxes here?
Could the unexpected tribe be Krakens? Please don't make Arixmethes anything but Mono-Blue when the card is made. That's a creature we know should be a 12/12.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
That was before his heads were binded until 2 were left and then he got reduced to the size of a normal snake, then Michiko Konda and Kyodai bit his remaining 2 heads off. Now you are seeing a version that is slowly recovering from this injury.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
The whole point of O-Kagachi was without his divinity, he was still able to steamroll Konda's army without paying attention and cleave into two Yosei and the strongest Oni of all of Kamigawa with the smallest amount of annoyance.... without using all of his 8 heads. In fact he steamrolled Konda's army with a mere 3 heads, which was well, depicted in a way.
"O-Kagachi was weakened" doesn't feel like any excuse when it was canonically stated in that weakened form he was pretty much still the most powerful being on the plane. The only possibly contenders were the Myojin, but they were all shown to be still subservient to O-Kagachi. It took pretty much the one thing that he was missing from complete invulnerability to kill him (Michiko was clearly just a beneficent of Kyodai in that entire fight) and that one thing was sealed for majority of the story until the very end.
With the title of "Eight-Headed Serpent" and mentions that the Life's Web was probably the closest Kami to him, O-Kagachi not being an 8/8 just doesn't feel right. It's not a matter of gameplay, it's every flavor involving him pointing that direction.
I'm just going to assume this O-Kagachi was his 6-headed form when he chased after Toshiro at Minamo Academy and not the 8-headed one that nullified all non-Kyodai Magic, the same way Final Judgment was probably his 3-headed form at Eiganjo. Too bad the flavor text doesn't support it, so the majority of people (not here, just overall across the game) won't know exactly how powerful O-Kagachi was despite being weakened, if they thought weakened O-Kagachi at full strength was this 6/6 form.
Speaking of Spirits, I was running through creature types on TCGPlayer and I think if they were going to make a commander deck without breaking the bank (dragons kind of fit that bill pretty well), spirits is very likely. There are so many of them that it should be possible to make a deck that has some kind of strategy to it that goes beyond just playing spirits. I tried piecing together fairies, but faeries on their own just don't have the variety and power to work alone in commander, much like ninja. Pure faeries would have to be a spells focused deck with faerie tribal as the support. Meanwhile, spirits can stand on their own two feet and can draw from so many different sources it's maddening.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
As for abilities… it's awkwardly benign. People in EDH don't frequently attack unless they have a massive army of tokens or have built up respectable field advantage. Going aggressive early is met with disapproval and fear from the table, and not making attacks count can make an game-long enemy out of someone. O-Kagachi will just mean "attack me when you can game me only" (which most would do anyway) and even then, his effect is so conditional people can easily avoid it at several different steps. Eliminate the player, stop them from attacking, block it, exile/destroy it before trigger, etc. It's not a hard deterrent to anything.
|| UW Jace, Vyn's Prodigy UW || UG Kenessos, Priest of Thassa (feat. Arixmethes) UG ||
Cards I still want to see created:
|| Olantin, Lost City || Pavios and Thanasis || Choryu ||
Trample does also help in conveying size. There are only 3 creatures in Kamigawa (not counting those who vary in P/T) that are 8/8 or bigger and none of them have trample, so personally I could let it pass. The only creature with power 8 and trample has a toughness of 5 and arguably represents an entire body of forests of the plane. I think we'll just have to agree we have different standards here.
I'm not going to deny gameplay-wise, O-Kagachi is definitely weak, but I based the whole thing on an flavor event that happened (All-Consuming attacks and gets halved/exiled for his efforts). I explained the whole bunch over at the storyline section (where it's more appropriate) so I don't think I'm going to repeat it here, except for the part where I think this is less of an actual Legendary Creature, but more of an event (like Final Judgment), except O-Kagachi is so devastating and powerful that instead of a sorcery/instant, his action is imprinted as a longer-lasting creature form instead.
I think wizards are gun shy about printing anything more on the level of the Eldrazi legendary titans. In standard they are pretty hard to cast, but commander games can go on for a while, especially in multiplayer. I'm just surprised there was no Balefire Dragon in the spoilers or Thundermaw Hellkite.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Now build your flavor-deck with eight of these as your commander and find satisfaction in eating armies for the low cost of almost fifty mana.
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I have a feeling they keep some reprints back for Iconic Masters and this one has some positive resonance.
Finally a good white villain quote: "So, do I ever re-evaluate my life choices? Never, because I know what I'm doing is a righteous cause."
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While it's true that there is some give and take regarding flavor and power/toughness, your average Giant shouldn't be a 1/1 or 2/2. Take note that Emmara is accompanied by Elementals (similar to my explanation as to how Teysa, Envoy of Ghosts is a 4/4 with vigilance) and that a good number of rats and bugs are toxic little buggers.
My greatest reservation so far though is with the winmore Cat Dragon.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Absolutely
As a matter fact just add C to "The UR-Dragon" converted mana cost that might be the cost of the new Titans
If 5-color Eldrazi happens anyway, the reasons it's possible is this dragon deck got a five color deck and the others could be as well, and there have Ben many attempts by people of making a Eldrazi tribal with colors (the devoid eldrazis)
Yeah, it does suck that the O-Kagachi we got is only a 6/6 but it is a decent commander for people that would run the Invasion/Planar Chaos dragons. Of course, we were also told that the great old Kami was too powerful to be represented on a card. While that might not be true nowdays, a true to the lore one might be on par with Emrakul. You'd probably have to design it with a lot of the power in a cast trigger to not make it a high dollar reanimation target or something.
Looking at your avatar I started wondering if ooze tribal could exist. Going to have to check on TCGPlayer or one of the magic card search engines to see what comes up...
Edit: Omg it is. I never noticed this, but just about the majority of oozes are +1/+1 counter fiends. They have so many different abilities involving counters it's nuts, and they even have one that makes other creatures into themselves. It's like complete insanity. Anything that isn't strictly an ooze can be a changling from lorwyn since those are all creature types.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
As its written like:
And less like:
As we could see an Elf have: