Well, they said popular tribes and if we are talking the Magic I know it's not going to be a bunch of decks made up of curve toppers or weird flip cards. It's probably going to be Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers was another type linked to humans. They might do merfolk if they think they can squeeze them in somehow, but I feel pretty surefire on the zombies and goblins at the very least. Slivers is potentially possible, but that's basically a five color deck and given the fact they want the decks balanced, I don't see them doing it if they include decks that go more towards two or three colors at most. The main issue is balancing the deck so it doesn't lose on principle thanks to its mana base as historically that is the reason the 2014 commander decks were so good out of the box.
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Well, they said popular tribes and if we are talking the Magic I know it's not going to be a bunch of decks made up of curve toppers or weird flip cards. It's probably going to be Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers was another type linked to humans. They might do merfolk if they think they can squeeze them in somehow, but I feel pretty surefire on the zombies and goblins at the very least. Slivers is potentially possible, but that's basically a five color deck and given the fact they want the decks balanced, I don't see them doing it if they include decks that go more towards two or three colors at most. The main issue is balancing the deck so it doesn't lose on principle thanks to its mana base as historically that is the reason the 2014 commander decks were so good out of the box.
How many times do I have to tell you guys
Goblins, elf zombies, ARE NOT TAKING 3 SLOTS BY DEFAULT
Only 1 will make it in my opinion
Commander 2014 already had a elf tribal deck (in a way)
Zombie has the highest chance because of making a esper one.
And those three have Ben done to death it's most used vs most popular they are likely to do popular tribes outside those 3
My though process is making a perfect commander for tribes not having a strong tribal leader.
They don't have to give us a brand new legendary Sliver. They can give us a brand new five color Planeswalker who's been acting as a game warden of all the four Slivers hives we've seen so far.
We've never seen Dominarian Slivers granting lifelink, deathtouch, and hexproof. They can also just give us "protection from..." Slivers for all five colors and colorless. In my playgroup, and in tournament play you are only allowed four Ward Slivers. Not to mention landwalk. Clearly there exists at least a modicum of design space left over.
Well, they said popular tribes and if we are talking the Magic I know it's not going to be a bunch of decks made up of curve toppers or weird flip cards. It's probably going to be Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers was another type linked to humans. They might do merfolk if they think they can squeeze them in somehow, but I feel pretty surefire on the zombies and goblins at the very least. Slivers is potentially possible, but that's basically a five color deck and given the fact they want the decks balanced, I don't see them doing it if they include decks that go more towards two or three colors at most. The main issue is balancing the deck so it doesn't lose on principle thanks to its mana base as historically that is the reason the 2014 commander decks were so good out of the box.
This would be extremely disappointing. Especially because all of those tribes already seem to have decent commanders already. Not that I can't imagine the possibility...they really should use this chance to print support for tribes that are popular, but maybe don't have a great EDH commander (or even a really functional one). No Slivers, Elves, Goblins, Humans...etc.
Well, they said popular tribes and if we are talking the Magic I know it's not going to be a bunch of decks made up of curve toppers or weird flip cards. It's probably going to be Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers was another type linked to humans. They might do merfolk if they think they can squeeze them in somehow, but I feel pretty surefire on the zombies and goblins at the very least. Slivers is potentially possible, but that's basically a five color deck and given the fact they want the decks balanced, I don't see them doing it if they include decks that go more towards two or three colors at most. The main issue is balancing the deck so it doesn't lose on principle thanks to its mana base as historically that is the reason the 2014 commander decks were so good out of the box.
This would be extremely disappointing. Especially because all of those tribes already seem to have decent commanders already. Not that I can't imagine the possibility...they really should use this chance to print support for tribes that are popular, but maybe don't have a great EDH commander (or even a really functional one). No Slivers, Elves, Goblins, Humans...etc.
Except for sliver
That's exactly why I'm positive we are only getting one of those tribes in one of the decks
I'm thinking
Vampires
Werewolfs
Eldrazis (the ones we have are not lords which means no buff of the creature type.)
Merfolks (esper)
Myrs
Those have a decent shot at this.
Out of all th 4 main ones esper zombie has the biggest shot.
Well, they said popular tribes and if we are talking the Magic I know it's not going to be a bunch of decks made up of curve toppers or weird flip cards. It's probably going to be Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers was another type linked to humans. They might do merfolk if they think they can squeeze them in somehow, but I feel pretty surefire on the zombies and goblins at the very least. Slivers is potentially possible, but that's basically a five color deck and given the fact they want the decks balanced, I don't see them doing it if they include decks that go more towards two or three colors at most. The main issue is balancing the deck so it doesn't lose on principle thanks to its mana base as historically that is the reason the 2014 commander decks were so good out of the box.
This would be extremely disappointing. Especially because all of those tribes already seem to have decent commanders already. Not that I can't imagine the possibility...they really should use this chance to print support for tribes that are popular, but maybe don't have a great EDH commander (or even a really functional one). No Slivers, Elves, Goblins, Humans...etc.
It maybe disappointing, but that seems like the most likely outcome. Zombies has a ton of cards that need a reprint like Death Baron, and tribes like humans are easy to build as a pre-con because of the relatively low price on singles.
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It maybe disappointing, but that seems like the most likely outcome. Zombies has a ton of cards that need a reprint like Death Baron, and tribes like humans are easy to build as a pre-con because of the relatively low price on singles.
I think there are lots of tribes with cards they could reprint or deck ideas they could build cheap. I'd rather them build good decks that explore some kind of new ground.
I've only seen a couple of people mention dragons, but that's probably a likely choice considering the game's history.
Another not-really-mentioned option is Wizard tribal (lots of options here and would be super fun)
All the discussion about humans/zombies/elves/Goblins is super unimaginative and would be a disappointing roster of tribes. We need something suitable for commander, this isn't standard after all.
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Gimme a elves theme deck, I do not care about the rest
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Well, they said popular tribes and if we are talking the Magic I know it's not going to be a bunch of decks made up of curve toppers or weird flip cards. It's probably going to be Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers was another type linked to humans. They might do merfolk if they think they can squeeze them in somehow, but I feel pretty surefire on the zombies and goblins at the very least. Slivers is potentially possible, but that's basically a five color deck and given the fact they want the decks balanced, I don't see them doing it if they include decks that go more towards two or three colors at most. The main issue is balancing the deck so it doesn't lose on principle thanks to its mana base as historically that is the reason the 2014 commander decks were so good out of the box.
I think you're probably right. Zombies and Merfolk could both be Esper, so it's unlikely they'd both make it in. Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins seem most plausible.
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Well, they said popular tribes and if we are talking the Magic I know it's not going to be a bunch of decks made up of curve toppers or weird flip cards. It's probably going to be Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers was another type linked to humans. They might do merfolk if they think they can squeeze them in somehow, but I feel pretty surefire on the zombies and goblins at the very least. Slivers is potentially possible, but that's basically a five color deck and given the fact they want the decks balanced, I don't see them doing it if they include decks that go more towards two or three colors at most. The main issue is balancing the deck so it doesn't lose on principle thanks to its mana base as historically that is the reason the 2014 commander decks were so good out of the box.
I think you're probably right. Zombies and Merfolk could both be Esper, so it's unlikely they'd both make it in. Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins seem most plausible.
It was said one would come from left field, which none of these four are, also it says popular AND interesting. Elves and Goblins are one, but really not the other.
i personally hope they will support some tribes that have previously not had a ton of legendary cards. i would love a 4 or 5 color clone legend since pretty much all colors have clones besides white, a esper sphinx legend that actually synergises with other sphinxes, a demons legend because i want to make dark pacts all day and ok so i want sliver because it's my favorite tribe
Well, they said popular tribes and if we are talking the Magic I know it's not going to be a bunch of decks made up of curve toppers or weird flip cards. It's probably going to be Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers was another type linked to humans. They might do merfolk if they think they can squeeze them in somehow, but I feel pretty surefire on the zombies and goblins at the very least. Slivers is potentially possible, but that's basically a five color deck and given the fact they want the decks balanced, I don't see them doing it if they include decks that go more towards two or three colors at most. The main issue is balancing the deck so it doesn't lose on principle thanks to its mana base as historically that is the reason the 2014 commander decks were so good out of the box.
This would be extremely disappointing. Especially because all of those tribes already seem to have decent commanders already. Not that I can't imagine the possibility...they really should use this chance to print support for tribes that are popular, but maybe don't have a great EDH commander (or even a really functional one). No Slivers, Elves, Goblins, Humans...etc.
It maybe disappointing, but that seems like the most likely outcome. Zombies has a ton of cards that need a reprint like Death Baron, and tribes like humans are easy to build as a pre-con because of the relatively low price on singles.
Nope it's impossible to predict and wizards would likely want to try stuff not done yet
And plus did you not hear me on the commander 2014 green deck "guided by nature" from 37 creatures in that deck 24 are elfs that's 65% of the deck and the commander makes more.
Well, they said popular tribes and if we are talking the Magic I know it's not going to be a bunch of decks made up of curve toppers or weird flip cards. It's probably going to be Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers was another type linked to humans. They might do merfolk if they think they can squeeze them in somehow, but I feel pretty surefire on the zombies and goblins at the very least. Slivers is potentially possible, but that's basically a five color deck and given the fact they want the decks balanced, I don't see them doing it if they include decks that go more towards two or three colors at most. The main issue is balancing the deck so it doesn't lose on principle thanks to its mana base as historically that is the reason the 2014 commander decks were so good out of the box.
I think you're probably right. Zombies and Merfolk could both be Esper, so it's unlikely they'd both make it in. Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins seem most plausible.
It was said one would come from left field, which none of these four are, also it says popular AND interesting. Elves and Goblins are one, but really not the other.
When it comes to tribal in commander there is literally nothing that could come out of left field unless they are devoting 48 of those new cards to a completely underdeveloped tribe.
My guess it's going to be something like Elementals or Kithkin, unless they are bringing back Nightstalkers from the portal second age days.
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3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Well, they said popular tribes and if we are talking the Magic I know it's not going to be a bunch of decks made up of curve toppers or weird flip cards. It's probably going to be Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers was another type linked to humans. They might do merfolk if they think they can squeeze them in somehow, but I feel pretty surefire on the zombies and goblins at the very least. Slivers is potentially possible, but that's basically a five color deck and given the fact they want the decks balanced, I don't see them doing it if they include decks that go more towards two or three colors at most. The main issue is balancing the deck so it doesn't lose on principle thanks to its mana base as historically that is the reason the 2014 commander decks were so good out of the box.
I think you're probably right. Zombies and Merfolk could both be Esper, so it's unlikely they'd both make it in. Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins seem most plausible.
It was said one would come from left field, which none of these four are, also it says popular AND interesting. Elves and Goblins are one, but really not the other.
When it comes to tribal in commander there is literally nothing that could come out of left field unless they are devoting 48 of those new cards to a completely underdeveloped tribe.
My guess it's going to be something like Elementals or Kithkin, unless they are bringing back Nightstalkers from the portal second age days.
Well, they said popular tribes and if we are talking the Magic I know it's not going to be a bunch of decks made up of curve toppers or weird flip cards. It's probably going to be Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins. I wouldn't be surprised if soldiers was another type linked to humans. They might do merfolk if they think they can squeeze them in somehow, but I feel pretty surefire on the zombies and goblins at the very least. Slivers is potentially possible, but that's basically a five color deck and given the fact they want the decks balanced, I don't see them doing it if they include decks that go more towards two or three colors at most. The main issue is balancing the deck so it doesn't lose on principle thanks to its mana base as historically that is the reason the 2014 commander decks were so good out of the box.
I think you're probably right. Zombies and Merfolk could both be Esper, so it's unlikely they'd both make it in. Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins seem most plausible.
It was said one would come from left field, which none of these four are, also it says popular AND interesting. Elves and Goblins are one, but really not the other.
When it comes to tribal in commander there is literally nothing that could come out of left field unless they are devoting 48 of those new cards to a completely underdeveloped tribe.
My guess it's going to be something like Elementals or Kithkin, unless they are bringing back Nightstalkers from the portal second age days.
Oh please let it be NightStalkers~
I loved that precon and still have the cards for it. Also, Portal Second Age actually had firearms depicted in the art, so it was rather unique in that regard in terms of flavor.
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Nothing that is currently (or about to be) showcased in Standard will be represented in these decks.
Werewolves have only recently been revisited. There simply aren't enough reprints that would have been available at the time that this product was in development;
Same deal with Naga;
...and Eldrazi;
Zombies could be doable, but calls for Esper Zombies are simply impossible without Amonkhet, which would not have been available during development. This is probably something they may *want* to do in the future, but the current crop (ba-dum, ching!) needs to age a little first.
Vampires are the other black characteristic creature type, so even excluding SOI block you could probably put together enough in Grixis to pull it off, but they really aren't hurting as badly as so many other tribes.
Speaking of "Characteristic" creatures...
No Elves. As noted: the previous Elves deck is about to be re-released in its entirety.
No Goblins. This tribe is already so well supported that you could probably release 4 different, pre-con Goblin decks without even needing new cards.
No Merfolk. Not with Ixalan on the horizon.
No Elementals. As they do more tribal support products in the future, I'm sure we'll see 5C elementals, eventually. But they already have a perfectly respectable commander in Horde of Notions, which saw reprint just last year. two years ago. But beyond that, Elementals just aren't recognizable to non-gamers the way that Dragons are. Ask a non-gamer about Dragons, and they're likely to talk about Game of Thrones and Smaug. Now ask them about Elementals. Element Whales, what?
No Slivers, and here is why: I predict that Bolas is going to defeat the Gatewatch, and the culmination of his efforts will lead to the resurrection of Dominaria, including slivers. Until that happens (or we go to Shandalar) and the new template for Slivers has another chance to bubble through Standard, we won't see another stand-alone Slivers product. Also, Slivers have an even worse marketability issue than Elementals. At least elementals exist outside of Magic, whereas sometimes Slivers aren't even recognizable to experienced MtG players.
So with the Iconic Masters announcement and reviewing what's been discussed here, I'm sticking by my previous predictions. That being said, I agree with what others have expressed regarding secondary themes, so I'll select a secondary tribe for each of my predictions, and break down my reason for why these decks.
5-color Dragon, with a reprint of Scion of the Ur-Dragon
Dragons are absolutely the most popular of the iconic creature types.
Dragons were the first FtV and have been featured in a Duel Deck.
They're the only rare iconic (or common characteristic) creature type to be represented in all colors, even before...
There is an entire block focused on them (in all colors).
The greatest villain in the multiverse is a Dragon.
Dragons are effectively the face of MtG, and it's MtG's 25th anniversary.
While Scion of the Ur-Dragon already functions as a 5-color Dragon commander, it's due for a reprint, and I'm sure people want the Ur-Dragon itself to play with.
Subtheme: Shaman
Over half of all creatures that reference Dragons favorably in their text are Shamans (7 of 12), so Cult of the Ur-Dragon would make a great deck.
Hivis of the Scale gains control of dragons (but is sadly on the Reserve list)
Zirilan of the Claw tutors your deck for dragons (but is sadly on the Reserve list)
Of the remaining five, one is Kaalia who is already seeing a reprint this year; two use the "if you reveal a Dragon" mechanic; one is a 5-color Knight that turns into a Dragon; and one is a Zombie.
Subtheme: Gorgon
While there has been lots of discussion of Naga in this thread, this year's Commander product can't logistically include any from Amonkhet or Hour of Devastation. In the meantime, the Naga from Khans block already includes 2 Legendaries and last year gave them Ikra.
Gorgons on the other hand, desperately need a reprinting of Damia, Sage of Stone.
Kalemne wants big creatures in her deck, not small Soldiers;
Tajic doesn't confer any kind of benefit to those he commands.
Subtheme: Angels
There is a long history of Angels leading armies in MtG, and there's lots of reprint fodder for R/W Angels. However angels lack any "lords", so throwing them a bone or two here would be reasonable.
Clerics are in a similar situation as Soldiers...there are very many of them in print , but they lack a solid leader who cares about Clerics.
Subtheme: Demons
Black clerics, even multi-colored ones tend to sacrifice things to Demons. Who am I to argue?
Hmmm the more I think about it this is probably what's going to happen.
You see goblins, elfs and zombies are mistaken as the most popular they are really the most iconic tribes
And just maybe because iconic masters is reprinting angels/demons/dragons/hydras/sphinxes doesn't necessary eliminate them. As a matter of fact scavenging ooze was reprinted in commander 2016 but yet still reprinted in MM3
Truthfully any 5 color tribe (slivers, scarecrows, elementals, dragons, etc.) seems like it won't happen simply because WotC refuses to print reasonable mana bases in these products. Having 1 or 2 five color decks against a 2 or 3 color deck will not play well. While those of us here on this forum probably disassemble the decks and construct real decks, WotC knows that a lot of kitchen table Magic players just play out of the box and never change the deck.
While I understand they can't put $75 worth of value in a $35 deck, maybe cutting back on the creature/spell reprints and giving a little more in the land section wouldn't kill them. I'm not asking for fetches or shocks, but how about checklands, scry lands (Theros Temples),Odyssey filters or pain lands? One of the hardest things for a new commander player is putting together a mana base for more than 1 or 2 decks. While I have a playset of everything I could need, not everyone is in my situation.
Truthfully any 5 color tribe (slivers, scarecrows, elementals, dragons, etc.) seems like it won't happen simply because WotC refuses to print reasonable mana bases in these products. Having 1 or 2 five color decks against a 2 or 3 color deck will not play well. While those of us here on this forum probably disassemble the decks and construct real decks, WotC knows that a lot of kitchen table Magic players just play out of the box and never change the deck.
While I understand they can't put $75 worth of value in a $35 deck, maybe cutting back on the creature/spell reprints and giving a little more in the land section wouldn't kill them. I'm not asking for fetches or shocks, but how about checklands, scry lands (Theros Temples),Odyssey filters or pain lands? One of the hardest things for a new commander player is putting together a mana base for more than 1 or 2 decks. While I have a playset of everything I could need, not everyone is in my situation.
It's not color wheel focus and two, only one of the decks is likely 5-color not two
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And first place is slivers
Second place is eldrazi
Selling some cards I don't want.
Generally less than tcg mid.
These were already being printed by the time Hulk was unbanned so I wouldn't count on it.
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How many times do I have to tell you guys
Goblins, elf zombies, ARE NOT TAKING 3 SLOTS BY DEFAULT
Only 1 will make it in my opinion
Commander 2014 already had a elf tribal deck (in a way)
Zombie has the highest chance because of making a esper one.
And those three have Ben done to death it's most used vs most popular they are likely to do popular tribes outside those 3
My though process is making a perfect commander for tribes not having a strong tribal leader.
We've never seen Dominarian Slivers granting lifelink, deathtouch, and hexproof. They can also just give us "protection from..." Slivers for all five colors and colorless. In my playgroup, and in tournament play you are only allowed four Ward Slivers. Not to mention landwalk. Clearly there exists at least a modicum of design space left over.
This would be extremely disappointing. Especially because all of those tribes already seem to have decent commanders already. Not that I can't imagine the possibility...they really should use this chance to print support for tribes that are popular, but maybe don't have a great EDH commander (or even a really functional one). No Slivers, Elves, Goblins, Humans...etc.
I would actually like Elves, wouldn't mind Zombies or Merfolk, and would actively enjoy Humans, Clerics, Soldiers, or something.
But please, Vampires most of all, and Angels would be great!
Except for sliver
That's exactly why I'm positive we are only getting one of those tribes in one of the decks
I'm thinking
Vampires
Werewolfs
Eldrazis (the ones we have are not lords which means no buff of the creature type.)
Merfolks (esper)
Myrs
Those have a decent shot at this.
Out of all th 4 main ones esper zombie has the biggest shot.
It maybe disappointing, but that seems like the most likely outcome. Zombies has a ton of cards that need a reprint like Death Baron, and tribes like humans are easy to build as a pre-con because of the relatively low price on singles.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
I think there are lots of tribes with cards they could reprint or deck ideas they could build cheap. I'd rather them build good decks that explore some kind of new ground.
Another not-really-mentioned option is Wizard tribal (lots of options here and would be super fun)
All the discussion about humans/zombies/elves/Goblins is super unimaginative and would be a disappointing roster of tribes. We need something suitable for commander, this isn't standard after all.
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I think you're probably right. Zombies and Merfolk could both be Esper, so it's unlikely they'd both make it in. Humans, zombies, elves, and goblins seem most plausible.
It was said one would come from left field, which none of these four are, also it says popular AND interesting. Elves and Goblins are one, but really not the other.
Nope it's impossible to predict and wizards would likely want to try stuff not done yet
And plus did you not hear me on the commander 2014 green deck "guided by nature" from 37 creatures in that deck 24 are elfs that's 65% of the deck and the commander makes more.
And that deck is getting a reprint run
http://magic.wizards.com/en/products/commander-anthology
Elfs is not happening.
And here's your biggest mistake
https://mobile.twitter.com/GavinVerhey/status/854368614442344452
Last but not least there is a difference between most iconic vs most popular.
Iconic just means famous, popular is liked. Being the most iconic doesn't lock them for these decks.
Mr. Jiggles comin' to town and gonna take you on down to the hootenanny, so y'all best be lookin' out for a good, jiggly time.
When it comes to tribal in commander there is literally nothing that could come out of left field unless they are devoting 48 of those new cards to a completely underdeveloped tribe.
My guess it's going to be something like Elementals or Kithkin, unless they are bringing back Nightstalkers from the portal second age days.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Oh please let it be NightStalkers~
I loved that precon and still have the cards for it. Also, Portal Second Age actually had firearms depicted in the art, so it was rather unique in that regard in terms of flavor.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Nothing that is currently (or about to be) showcased in Standard will be represented in these decks.
Speaking of "Characteristic" creatures...
No Elves. As noted: the previous Elves deck is about to be re-released in its entirety.
No Goblins. This tribe is already so well supported that you could probably release 4 different, pre-con Goblin decks without even needing new cards.
No Merfolk. Not with Ixalan on the horizon.
No Elementals. As they do more tribal support products in the future, I'm sure we'll see 5C elementals, eventually. But they already have a perfectly respectable commander in Horde of Notions, which saw reprint just
last year.two years ago. But beyond that, Elementals just aren't recognizable to non-gamers the way that Dragons are. Ask a non-gamer about Dragons, and they're likely to talk about Game of Thrones and Smaug. Now ask them about Elementals. Element Whales, what?No Slivers, and here is why: I predict that Bolas is going to defeat the Gatewatch, and the culmination of his efforts will lead to the resurrection of Dominaria, including slivers. Until that happens (or we go to Shandalar) and the new template for Slivers has another chance to bubble through Standard, we won't see another stand-alone Slivers product. Also, Slivers have an even worse marketability issue than Elementals. At least elementals exist outside of Magic, whereas sometimes Slivers aren't even recognizable to experienced MtG players.
Hmmm the more I think about it this is probably what's going to happen.
You see goblins, elfs and zombies are mistaken as the most popular they are really the most iconic tribes
And just maybe because iconic masters is reprinting angels/demons/dragons/hydras/sphinxes doesn't necessary eliminate them. As a matter of fact scavenging ooze was reprinted in commander 2016 but yet still reprinted in MM3
While I understand they can't put $75 worth of value in a $35 deck, maybe cutting back on the creature/spell reprints and giving a little more in the land section wouldn't kill them. I'm not asking for fetches or shocks, but how about checklands, scry lands (Theros Temples),Odyssey filters or pain lands? One of the hardest things for a new commander player is putting together a mana base for more than 1 or 2 decks. While I have a playset of everything I could need, not everyone is in my situation.
It's not color wheel focus and two, only one of the decks is likely 5-color not two