I just hate that this is the reason why it's rare. I just want them to not care about limited so much.
I do think it can find some play in Constructed as it'll be triggered on looting/rummaging, not just cycling. Unfortunately, this does nothing on its own and still requires you to pay 1 to get the Drake. I'm sure there will be jank Standard decks with this in them and possibly some Against the Odds type of decks as well. but this is the first card that I'm actually hyped about, but it feels like this will be kinda like Thopter Spy Network where it'll kinda just be there, seem interesting, but not make a super huge splash.
Drake Haven is going to snowball so fast in limited if you draft enough cards with cycling. Yeah it is most def a rare.
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Drake Haven is pretty sweet, honestly! Letting me "kick" my cycles to get a drake is pretty darn good!
Amonkhet is making a REALLY good argument for me to build a Grixis cycling deck! (Probably with [[Sedris, the Traitor King]] at the helm unless we get a super super cool Grixis legend.)
Wow, I really like Cast Out. Flash Oblivion Ring-like Enchantment is nice. The lack of Instant interactions is why I'm usually not as huge a fan of them, but that works.
Cast Out looks really good, and Drake Haven is at rare because of limited? In constructed, cycling will have be super pushed for this to be playable at 3cmc. At 3cmc your opponents are already crewing 4/4 flying haste creatures and leaving up mana to disintegrate (and bolting you) your threat/blocker. The cycling clause on Cast Out is great though!
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I'm so glad we get to cycle on these cards because they are so over costed I don't think I'd want to play them outside of casual.
2 generic for 1 colored = fine trade since it makes it easier to splash for.
Comes into play tapped land cycle at rare makes mana fixing harder, thereby discouraging splashing...
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
these cycle or discard cards are one reason we know now why they banned smugglers copter. well aside from how he was so busted already in standard at the time.
This thread is full of idiots... Lightning Bolt is NOT being reprinted.
Many times has a writer in Wizards said so, because of the plain and simple fact that it's too powerful for what it costs. x/3 creatures shouldn't be able to die at instant speed for one mana without a signifigant drawback. (like PTE giving you a land)
I absolutely guarantee that LB will not be printed in M10, and you can quote me on that.
Cast Out looks really good, and Drake Haven is at rare because of limited? In constructed, cycling will have be super pushed for this to be playable at 3cmc. At 3cmc your opponents are already crewing 4/4 flying haste creatures and leaving up mana to disintegrate (and bolting you) your threat/blocker. The cycling clause on Cast Out is great though!
Drake Haven triggers on discard, so looting/rummaging triggers it, not just cycling. Think how broken it would be if Smuggler's Copter were still in Standard. You'd be right if it were just cycling, but general discard makes it far more versatile
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Drake Haven looks pretty fun too.
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I just hate that this is the reason why it's rare. I just want them to not care about limited so much.
I do think it can find some play in Constructed as it'll be triggered on looting/rummaging, not just cycling. Unfortunately, this does nothing on its own and still requires you to pay 1 to get the Drake. I'm sure there will be jank Standard decks with this in them and possibly some Against the Odds type of decks as well. but this is the first card that I'm actually hyped about, but it feels like this will be kinda like Thopter Spy Network where it'll kinda just be there, seem interesting, but not make a super huge splash.
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Cast Out seems a quality substitute for O-ring in limited, but it won't push O-ring out of my cube, or many of my EDH decks.
Though I do want to make a heavy cycle deck again.
The Drake Haven looks fun, hopefully it will make an appearance in competitive formats. Looking forward to see how the Drake Token turns out.
Modern: Decks I'm playing right now:
G Mono Green Tron (34-10-3 paper record, only SCG/Regionals/PPTQ record)
C Eldrazi Tron (9-5)
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RW Burn
Currently playing:
Standard: Superfriends!
Legacy: Nic Fit / Pod
Pauper: Delvar; Tron; Flicker Stuff
Commander: Riku ("Some weird doubple spell thing happened"); Keranos ("I did a Gatherer search for 'random' and 'flip a coin.'"); Superfriends!
Gotta find my M13 Drake tokens now
2 generic for 1 colored = fine trade since it makes it easier to splash for.
Comes into play tapped land cycle at rare makes mana fixing harder, thereby discouraging splashing...
...why?
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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Drake Haven triggers on discard, so looting/rummaging triggers it, not just cycling. Think how broken it would be if Smuggler's Copter were still in Standard. You'd be right if it were just cycling, but general discard makes it far more versatile