Didn't Theros block release the mono-colored primary gods first, and the guild gods in the second and third sets? If so, it's not totally implausible that set two of Amonkhet introduces five shard gods. I don't think guild gods are likely, because it'd require ten in one set, but five and five seems par for the course.
I think if they do anything like that, they should be wedges! I mean, it has been longer since we got shard anything, but a lot of people ARE speculating that we could get a return to Alara because of this. Also, I know that wedges were recently as well, but..
Grixis is a shard, and considering that Bolas is grixis, I highly doubt they'd have a demi-God that was grixis as well Plus, there needs to be more commanders in the wedge colours
I guess the bird God should be like this:
Hilarious bird god
1UU
LEGENDARY creature~ bird god
Flash
When~ enters battlefield, counter target spell.
UU:counter target spell.
T:counter target spell.
Discard a blue card: counter target spell.
Exile ~ from your graveyard: counter target spell.
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That would make him a $200 card they would not make him that broken
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I guess the bird God should be like this:
Hilarious bird god
1UU
LEGENDARY creature~ bird god
Flash
When~ enters battlefield, counter target spell.
UU:counter target spell.
T:counter target spell.
Discard a blue card: counter target spell.
Exile ~ from your graveyard: counter target spell.
3/3
Knowing Maro and his love for true but misleading information, the gods could still be multicolored. Ala the "white" god could be Bant, as white is the focus of that combination.
But the gods are likely monocolored.
What about one step further?
Technically tri-color like you said, but like the old Alara Blade cycle they have one "full color" (their primary color) and their off colors being a hybrid mana? To really bring home what their focus is?
miresmalice asked on blogatog: You have previously said that the Amonkhet Gods' nicknames were 'white god', 'blue god', etc.
Does this mean that the gods are mono-coloured or is this just how they were nicknamed (I.E: Grixis focuses in black, Jund Focuses in red, etc)? Maro: The Amonkhet gods are monocolored.
miresmalice asked on blogatog: You have previously said that the Amonkhet Gods' nicknames were 'white god', 'blue god', etc.
Does this mean that the gods are mono-coloured or is this just how they were nicknamed (I.E: Grixis focuses in black, Jund Focuses in red, etc)? Maro: The Amonkhet gods are monocolored.
April's fools?
I wish. Why make them monocolored and have them be too similar to the Theroes gods?
miresmalice asked on blogatog: You have previously said that the Amonkhet Gods' nicknames were 'white god', 'blue god', etc.
Does this mean that the gods are mono-coloured or is this just how they were nicknamed (I.E: Grixis focuses in black, Jund Focuses in red, etc)? Maro: The Amonkhet gods are monocolored.
April's fools?
I wish. Why make them monocolored and have them be too similar to the Theroes gods?
How could you possibly know they are too similar to the Theros gods if you haven't seen them yet? There are plenty of mythologies left to make top-down sets based on, I'm sure there will be tricolor gods eventually. Maybe when they do Norse world the gods there will be tricolor.
miresmalice asked on blogatog: You have previously said that the Amonkhet Gods' nicknames were 'white god', 'blue god', etc.
Does this mean that the gods are mono-coloured or is this just how they were nicknamed (I.E: Grixis focuses in black, Jund Focuses in red, etc)? Maro: The Amonkhet gods are monocolored.
April's fools?
I wish. Why make them monocolored and have them be too similar to the Theroes gods?
How could you possibly know they are too similar to the Theros gods if you haven't seen them yet? There are plenty of mythologies left to make top-down sets based on, I'm sure there will be tricolor gods eventually. Maybe when they do Norse world the gods there will be tricolor.
I can´t but it just seems like such a miss not to do it, especially if they end up being all about devotion and artifact enchantments again. Making them tri-colored would make them strongly different from Theros.
miresmalice asked on blogatog: You have previously said that the Amonkhet Gods' nicknames were 'white god', 'blue god', etc.
Does this mean that the gods are mono-coloured or is this just how they were nicknamed (I.E: Grixis focuses in black, Jund Focuses in red, etc)? Maro: The Amonkhet gods are monocolored.
April's fools?
I wish. Why make them monocolored and have them be too similar to the Theroes gods?
Well from what we've seen so far these gods do not seem to be Enchantments nor rely on their followers for their power, so they really aren't similar at all.
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I think they'll be Indestructible creatures that just have good abilities and maybe some way to reduce their cost if it's overburdening. They don't seem like they really need devotion to come alive; they already walk among the common folk.
It's quite ironic how this discussion about Gods is so similar to real religions.
No matter how much evidence is dropped on the table, there's still a Gods-are-tricolored camp. :'(
Even if there's literally no space in the Number Crunch, you're still holding onto straws (such as offcolor activations)...
I can´t but it just seems like such a miss not to do it, especially if they end up being all about devotion and artifact enchantments again. Making them tri-colored would make them strongly different from Theros.
Well, so why complain about them being monocolored if instead you could turn around and wonder whether your supposition that they "end up all about devotion and artifact enchantments again" is well-founded?
Which of the revealed cards and materials from WotC make you think that? Theros had an elaborate enchantment theme. So far we have seen Sixth Sense and IIRC one Masterpiece enchantment. That's nothing. These new Gods don't exist in a parallel reality in the night sky, they walk around among the mortals and look quiet physical themselves.
Amonkhet Gods is people.
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They could have the Gods be mono-colored, but then have the factions underneath them be dual or tri-colored. For instance the factions in Theros were almost 10 dual-colored factions with dual-colored and mono-colored gods above them (WU- Meletis, WR- Akros, WG- Setessa, BR- Minotaurs, BG- Gorgons, RG- Satyrs, etc), and they didn't have to have many 2-color gold cards to have that happen.
They could have the Gods be mono-colored, but then have the factions underneath them be dual or tri-colored. For instance the factions in Theros were almost 10 dual-colored factions with dual-colored and mono-colored gods above them (WU- Meletis, WR- Akros, WG- Setessa, BR- Minotaurs, BG- Gorgons, RG- Satyrs, etc), and they didn't have to have many 2-color gold cards to have that happen.
I guess this is possible. This would be ideal for EDH because players could use them as mono colored generals or multi colored, but honestly it's kind of a reach and I wouldn't get your hopes up.
I don't think Mark Rosewater would refer to a creature like Yasova Dragonclaw as a mono colored creature because he knows how many of his readers play EDH and would potentially be confused or mislead by that description.
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They could have the Gods be mono-colored, but then have the factions underneath them be dual or tri-colored. For instance the factions in Theros were almost 10 dual-colored factions with dual-colored and mono-colored gods above them (WU- Meletis, WR- Akros, WG- Setessa, BR- Minotaurs, BG- Gorgons, RG- Satyrs, etc), and they didn't have to have many 2-color gold cards to have that happen.
Even though there's still room for dual or tricolored "religions", the fact that each basic land has a temple for the matching God is a strike against.
In Theros there were three major cities across five colors. Here it seems to be five parts of a single city, each still focusing on a single color.
"Monocolor Gods go in one monocolor deck, four dual-color decks and three tri-color decks as opposed to just a single tri-color deck.
Doesn´t this kinda limit their own game because they have to do what sells best versus do something new and fresh like making the gods not be too similar to Theroes gods by making them tricolored?
"Monocolor Gods go in one monocolor deck, four dual-color decks and three tri-color decks as opposed to just a single tri-color deck.
Doesn´t this kinda limit their own game because they have to do what sells best versus do something new and fresh like making the gods not be too similar to Theroes gods by making them tricolored?
To throw another echo in, lets wait until we see the gods to decide if they are too similar to the Theros ones.
I'd also like to point out they seeing have reversed the gender from the main 5 theros pantheon in Amonkhet the WBR gods are female and the UG gods are male.
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Doesn´t this kinda limit their own game because they have to do what sells best versus do something new and fresh like making the gods not be too similar to Theroes gods by making them tricolored?
Right, because color is the only way in which cards vary. There's no possible way to make a new cycle of cards different.[/sarcasm]
It's quite ironic how this discussion about Gods is so similar to real religions.
No matter how much evidence is dropped on the table, there's still a Gods-are-tricolored camp. :'(
Even if there's literally no space in the Number Crunch, you're still holding onto straws (such as offcolor activations)...
Not sure I follow the religion quip unless it's meant to be either pro-Atheism or anti-fundamentalist. If the latter I agree, the former not so much.
As far as the Gods being too much like the Theros ones, just compare the monocolor Myojin with the monocolor Gods of Theros. Barely any overlap. Indestructible, expensive cost, and creature type are likely the overlaps.
Only issue I have with the tricolor comment is likely we won't see tricolor Gods. Maybe supplemental sets it could happen. But I don't think they'll want to push the game to the point you can have the full ten tricolors as viable cards, too much color fixing then. Though I suppose they may find a new route to do them. After Norse though they're pretty much tapped on the big ones though, and with Amonkhet being more Bolas than Egyptian I doubt any others will appear.
Monocolored? Absolutely just wonderful. I figure that the blue, black and green gods will be good for Commander. Although the white and red ones I really hope are very playable.
Doesn´t this kinda limit their own game because they have to do what sells best versus do something new and fresh like making the gods not be too similar to Theroes gods by making them tricolored?
Right, because color is the only way in which cards vary. There's no possible way to make a new cycle of cards different.[/sarcasm]
You make a new ice-cream that taste like strawberry. You already have an ice-cream with this taste. People ask you why you made another one to which you answer "Ah but this strawberry is a bit more sugarish than the other one"
That was a silly example but this is how I feel Wizards are doing with creating yet another monocolor God cycle - Why make something you have already done that was already a success? People obvious wants something new
Because they decided that three-color gods weren't something they absolutely had to do on Amonkhet. Maybe, just maybe they started with the idea of "a plane ruled by Nicol Bolas" instead of "a plane with three-color gods".
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I think if they do anything like that, they should be wedges! I mean, it has been longer since we got shard anything, but a lot of people ARE speculating that we could get a return to Alara because of this. Also, I know that wedges were recently as well, but..
Grixis is a shard, and considering that Bolas is grixis, I highly doubt they'd have a demi-God that was grixis as well Plus, there needs to be more commanders in the wedge colours
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What about one step further?
Technically tri-color like you said, but like the old Alara Blade cycle they have one "full color" (their primary color) and their off colors being a hybrid mana? To really bring home what their focus is?
That is all.
Does this mean that the gods are mono-coloured or is this just how they were nicknamed (I.E: Grixis focuses in black, Jund Focuses in red, etc)?
Maro: The Amonkhet gods are monocolored.
April's fools?
I wish. Why make them monocolored and have them be too similar to the Theroes gods?
I can´t but it just seems like such a miss not to do it, especially if they end up being all about devotion and artifact enchantments again. Making them tri-colored would make them strongly different from Theros.
Well from what we've seen so far these gods do not seem to be Enchantments nor rely on their followers for their power, so they really aren't similar at all.
Cat permanents?
I think they'll be Indestructible creatures that just have good abilities and maybe some way to reduce their cost if it's overburdening. They don't seem like they really need devotion to come alive; they already walk among the common folk.
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No matter how much evidence is dropped on the table, there's still a Gods-are-tricolored camp. :'(
Even if there's literally no space in the Number Crunch, you're still holding onto straws (such as offcolor activations)...
Please stop.
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Well, so why complain about them being monocolored if instead you could turn around and wonder whether your supposition that they "end up all about devotion and artifact enchantments again" is well-founded?
Which of the revealed cards and materials from WotC make you think that? Theros had an elaborate enchantment theme. So far we have seen Sixth Sense and IIRC one Masterpiece enchantment. That's nothing. These new Gods don't exist in a parallel reality in the night sky, they walk around among the mortals and look quiet physical themselves.
Amonkhet Gods is people.
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I guess this is possible. This would be ideal for EDH because players could use them as mono colored generals or multi colored, but honestly it's kind of a reach and I wouldn't get your hopes up.
I don't think Mark Rosewater would refer to a creature like Yasova Dragonclaw as a mono colored creature because he knows how many of his readers play EDH and would potentially be confused or mislead by that description.
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Even though there's still room for dual or tricolored "religions", the fact that each basic land has a temple for the matching God is a strike against.
In Theros there were three major cities across five colors. Here it seems to be five parts of a single city, each still focusing on a single color.
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Someone finally asked why they made them monocolored.
http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/post/159127664368/hey-mark-why-did-you-make-the-amonkhet-gods#notes
"Monocolor Gods go in one monocolor deck, four dual-color decks and three tri-color decks as opposed to just a single tri-color deck.
Doesn´t this kinda limit their own game because they have to do what sells best versus do something new and fresh like making the gods not be too similar to Theroes gods by making them tricolored?
To throw another echo in, lets wait until we see the gods to decide if they are too similar to the Theros ones.
I'd also like to point out they seeing have reversed the gender from the main 5 theros pantheon in Amonkhet the WBR gods are female and the UG gods are male.
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They're a company, so they'll do what sells best.
But then these gods are going to be really fresh and new as well.
The biggest overlap with Theros gods will be monocolor and the God creature type.
Other than that, expect totally different mechanics.
Seriously.
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Not sure I follow the religion quip unless it's meant to be either pro-Atheism or anti-fundamentalist. If the latter I agree, the former not so much.
As far as the Gods being too much like the Theros ones, just compare the monocolor Myojin with the monocolor Gods of Theros. Barely any overlap. Indestructible, expensive cost, and creature type are likely the overlaps.
Only issue I have with the tricolor comment is likely we won't see tricolor Gods. Maybe supplemental sets it could happen. But I don't think they'll want to push the game to the point you can have the full ten tricolors as viable cards, too much color fixing then. Though I suppose they may find a new route to do them. After Norse though they're pretty much tapped on the big ones though, and with Amonkhet being more Bolas than Egyptian I doubt any others will appear.
You make a new ice-cream that taste like strawberry. You already have an ice-cream with this taste. People ask you why you made another one to which you answer "Ah but this strawberry is a bit more sugarish than the other one"
That was a silly example but this is how I feel Wizards are doing with creating yet another monocolor God cycle - Why make something you have already done that was already a success? People obvious wants something new