Y'no they really should stop doing this. Spoil all the amazing stuff day 1-4 and leave nothing really big in the final day. Now you get everyone who was on a high crashing down on those final cards...whereas if you had just slipped a few valuable rares and maybe a mythic or two in, you'd give people something to gush over for the final day.
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My Commander decks:
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
They shouldn't trickle run spoilers anyway. Just give everyone the spoilers the day before release because at the end of the day no one is going to get singles until at least one to two weeks after launch, and that is if nothing gets lost in transit which always happens during release week. Also, I can't recommend enough to buy from trusted sellers that use tracking and keep the order isolated to one seller. The extra cost will protect your purchase from harm and make the paperwork on both ends far easier.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
Honestly they should have just left Tarmogoyf lurking in the spoilers instead of spoiling it one day early. He was already the biggest question mark to me on the third day of previews (with the knowledge there's likely one missing Green Mythic). It has already been in 2 Modern Masters prior, so there isn't really much to talk about it that wasn't known (the article that previewed it technically proved that right).
I wouldn't say the full spoiler disappointed me, because I already expected the remaining rares to be chaff. But what really pleasantly surprised me were all the rarity downshifts (even if its uncommon-to-common) because those have a lot of implications in my Cube and oh boy they are the reason why the last day of spoilers for reprint sets are still exciting to me.
It is hard to be unhappy with the set. Its above market value and prints lots of cards that needed a reprint.
There is lots of fun to be had in draft, I like that the odd sideways stratagies are back. That was an issue in MM15 it was just a very standard draft format, so it just couldn't have these power cards or odd cards that see lots of play in modern. here we have very direct and powerful draft lines. People have said that if you direct a player in draft too much it can get boring faster. But this set is so expensive you don't often draft it more than a few times.
Keep in mind anything not reprinted has a chance of being reprinted in standard. Cursecatcher or scapeshift can be printed in standard no problems.
After a good half a day has passed and the excitement and disappointment has subsided, along with MTGGoldfish putting out their EV for the set, I'd like to give another assessment.
The set is without a doubt better than MM2, not that was going to be difficult, and EMA, easily. Looking back at MM1 and going over the set and seeing how MM3 stacks up, I must say that MM3 isn't as close as I thought, but MM3 isn't too far from how good MM1 was. Every rarity has a bit more to offer in MM1, albeit not too much more but enough to notice, along with cheaper packs and more boosters per box, although MM1 will certainly have a smaller print run, regardless of the 5x print run that's rumored.
The article going on about what cards are "worth it", value wise, really shows that there isn't as much as many people were being hyped for the last week and you do really notice what wasn't included that could have helped the archtypes or just needed for the game as a whole. Uncommons especially could have been better in this regard, but what we have in this set isn't terrible and shows much improvement over the last two Masters sets, and that's not to mention the rares which improved greatly over MM2 and better than EMA. Mythics took a decent hit and they could have done a bit better here, of course mythics took a hit to allow other rarities more, but something like Past in Flames could have been something far better. Common is about the same between the two sets.
The article mentions that the EV of a box is practically $220, and seeing how stores, sites, and Ebay have bumped up their prices, not to mention cancelling orders in some cases, to make up for the insane 4 days of previews we got only shows that they overshot their estimates. My LGS's (both owned by the same guy) are selling them for $250 if you didn't preorder, but are keeping to their $190 preorder boxes (damn my boss for owing me $400 so I couldn't get a box). From what I am seeing most boxes are going for $240-$260, with some slightly below or above, it looks like most people should really be trying their best to only buy a box for about $200. With card values dropping more and more over the next month, or maybe more, buying one for $250 just doesn't seem worth it right now, unless you love to draft with them or like cracking packs.
Again I will say that it is great that Wizards has listened to the community and the criticisms and complaints from the two most recent Masters sets. Is this a turning point for Wizards to bring us better products or is this a minor fluke? Will we see better Duel Decks and other products? Will the Standard pendulum swing back and even out? This gives a ray of hope that we're seeing a better Wizards coming forward, and I hope they improve, even a little, so we can all enjoy the game even more and this game continues to thrive for years to come.
Buying boxes to get singles is never a wise investment. Even if it is to have fun. Buying the singles saves you money in both short and long term. I don't know why any person in their right mind. Would buy a box if they aren't going to just wait and not sell it for 4 or 5 years. Only people who do not enjoy they game buy and store boxes.
This set makes me particularly happy that it hurts the investors who hoard modern cards. Because as a player who has seen this before. Reprints lowering prices allows me to afford more cards. Play more magic and have more fun. Msrp on normal boxes are always 30 ish percent over what they retail for. Thats why the msrp is set to 250 for modern masters. It should sell for less than 200 per box. Players should expect that price as well.
Very few color/time/planeshifted cards. I need Funeral Charm soon, before I lose it on a weaselly smartass who calls for a judge like he doesn't know what the purple hourglass means after years of Lord of Atlantis and Gemstone Mine showing up in top8's.
Very few color/time/planeshifted cards. I need Funeral Charm soon, before I lose it on a weaselly smartass who calls for a judge like he doesn't know what the purple hourglass means after years of Lord of Atlantis and Gemstone Mine showing up in top8's.
Hearing stories like this makes me wish Judges can issue slaps across the back of the head to your opponent.
It is hard to be unhappy with the set. Its above market value and prints lots of cards that needed a reprint.
There is lots of fun to be had in draft, I like that the odd sideways stratagies are back. That was an issue in MM15 it was just a very standard draft format, so it just couldn't have these power cards or odd cards that see lots of play in modern. here we have very direct and powerful draft lines. People have said that if you direct a player in draft too much it can get boring faster. But this set is so expensive you don't often draft it more than a few times.
Keep in mind anything not reprinted has a chance of being reprinted in standard. Cursecatcher or scapeshift can be printed in standard no problems.
Looking at the whole card this, the really focused on a few Modern deck archetypes and left out any love for many others. There is very little in this set for Affinity, Tron, Merfolk, or Scapeshift, and I think they planned it that way (considering those decks did receive reprinted items in the previous two expansions.) I could see them going back to a tribal theme in a MM or Eternal Masters-type set in the next few years and they print a bunch of Merfolk.
It is hard to be unhappy with the set. Its above market value and prints lots of cards that needed a reprint.
There is lots of fun to be had in draft, I like that the odd sideways stratagies are back. That was an issue in MM15 it was just a very standard draft format, so it just couldn't have these power cards or odd cards that see lots of play in modern. here we have very direct and powerful draft lines. People have said that if you direct a player in draft too much it can get boring faster. But this set is so expensive you don't often draft it more than a few times.
Keep in mind anything not reprinted has a chance of being reprinted in standard. Cursecatcher or scapeshift can be printed in standard no problems.
Looking at the whole card this, the really focused on a few Modern deck archetypes and left out any love for many others. There is very little in this set for Affinity, Tron, Merfolk, or Scapeshift, and I think they planned it that way (considering those decks did receive reprinted items in the previous two expansions.) I could see them going back to a tribal theme in a MM or Eternal Masters-type set in the next few years and they print a bunch of Merfolk.
Regardless of the set name referencing the Modern format, I feel that this set was them trying to hit as many important staples as possible printed in the Modern time line that are used in multiple formats. There are Legacy competitive staples here, there are staple EDH cards, and in general a lot of cards that are played in more than one archetype. The main thing is the decks you listed like Affinity and Tron use a narrow list of cards that aren't much played in other decks. They might've missed a few like Noble Hierarch that could easily be reprinted in a Standard set, but overall they hit on a lot of cards with prices trending upwards because so many decks use them, and that's what we really need.
One might think they heard one of the complaints about MM15 ("You included Daybreak Coronet, which while useful and valuable in a specific subset of Modern decks, is a complete dud in MM15 draft! People paying a premium to draft this set don't want to crack a rare that's too valuable to pass but too unusable-in-this-limited to play.")
I would love to see a Tribal theme in the next MM (my only MM1 draft I drafted RB Goblins), but it seems the tribes most likely to get attention there are "Elder Dragon" and "God".
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Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
They confessed to it and published their testing notes from the card.
What more would it take for you to believe them?
I wouldn't say the full spoiler disappointed me, because I already expected the remaining rares to be chaff. But what really pleasantly surprised me were all the rarity downshifts (even if its uncommon-to-common) because those have a lot of implications in my Cube and oh boy they are the reason why the last day of spoilers for reprint sets are still exciting to me.
Mortician beetle might have been the greatest downshift the set, but the winner for me is Gaea's Anthem.
There is lots of fun to be had in draft, I like that the odd sideways stratagies are back. That was an issue in MM15 it was just a very standard draft format, so it just couldn't have these power cards or odd cards that see lots of play in modern. here we have very direct and powerful draft lines. People have said that if you direct a player in draft too much it can get boring faster. But this set is so expensive you don't often draft it more than a few times.
Keep in mind anything not reprinted has a chance of being reprinted in standard. Cursecatcher or scapeshift can be printed in standard no problems.
Pioneer:UR Pheonix
Modern:U Mono U Tron
EDH
GB Glissa, the traitor: Army of Cans
UW Dragonlord Ojutai: Dragonlord NOjutai
UWGDerevi, Empyrial Tactician "you cannot fight the storm"
R Zirilan of the claw. The solution to every problem is dragons
UB Etrata, the Silencer Cloning assassination
Peasant cube: Cards I own
The set is without a doubt better than MM2, not that was going to be difficult, and EMA, easily. Looking back at MM1 and going over the set and seeing how MM3 stacks up, I must say that MM3 isn't as close as I thought, but MM3 isn't too far from how good MM1 was. Every rarity has a bit more to offer in MM1, albeit not too much more but enough to notice, along with cheaper packs and more boosters per box, although MM1 will certainly have a smaller print run, regardless of the 5x print run that's rumored.
The article going on about what cards are "worth it", value wise, really shows that there isn't as much as many people were being hyped for the last week and you do really notice what wasn't included that could have helped the archtypes or just needed for the game as a whole. Uncommons especially could have been better in this regard, but what we have in this set isn't terrible and shows much improvement over the last two Masters sets, and that's not to mention the rares which improved greatly over MM2 and better than EMA. Mythics took a decent hit and they could have done a bit better here, of course mythics took a hit to allow other rarities more, but something like Past in Flames could have been something far better. Common is about the same between the two sets.
The article mentions that the EV of a box is practically $220, and seeing how stores, sites, and Ebay have bumped up their prices, not to mention cancelling orders in some cases, to make up for the insane 4 days of previews we got only shows that they overshot their estimates. My LGS's (both owned by the same guy) are selling them for $250 if you didn't preorder, but are keeping to their $190 preorder boxes (damn my boss for owing me $400 so I couldn't get a box). From what I am seeing most boxes are going for $240-$260, with some slightly below or above, it looks like most people should really be trying their best to only buy a box for about $200. With card values dropping more and more over the next month, or maybe more, buying one for $250 just doesn't seem worth it right now, unless you love to draft with them or like cracking packs.
Again I will say that it is great that Wizards has listened to the community and the criticisms and complaints from the two most recent Masters sets. Is this a turning point for Wizards to bring us better products or is this a minor fluke? Will we see better Duel Decks and other products? Will the Standard pendulum swing back and even out? This gives a ray of hope that we're seeing a better Wizards coming forward, and I hope they improve, even a little, so we can all enjoy the game even more and this game continues to thrive for years to come.
This set makes me particularly happy that it hurts the investors who hoard modern cards. Because as a player who has seen this before. Reprints lowering prices allows me to afford more cards. Play more magic and have more fun. Msrp on normal boxes are always 30 ish percent over what they retail for. Thats why the msrp is set to 250 for modern masters. It should sell for less than 200 per box. Players should expect that price as well.
Hearing stories like this makes me wish Judges can issue slaps across the back of the head to your opponent.
Looking at the whole card this, the really focused on a few Modern deck archetypes and left out any love for many others. There is very little in this set for Affinity, Tron, Merfolk, or Scapeshift, and I think they planned it that way (considering those decks did receive reprinted items in the previous two expansions.) I could see them going back to a tribal theme in a MM or Eternal Masters-type set in the next few years and they print a bunch of Merfolk.
http://www.cubetutor.com/viewcube/13649 - My all foil cube.
Regardless of the set name referencing the Modern format, I feel that this set was them trying to hit as many important staples as possible printed in the Modern time line that are used in multiple formats. There are Legacy competitive staples here, there are staple EDH cards, and in general a lot of cards that are played in more than one archetype. The main thing is the decks you listed like Affinity and Tron use a narrow list of cards that aren't much played in other decks. They might've missed a few like Noble Hierarch that could easily be reprinted in a Standard set, but overall they hit on a lot of cards with prices trending upwards because so many decks use them, and that's what we really need.
(Also known as Xenphire)
I would love to see a Tribal theme in the next MM (my only MM1 draft I drafted RB Goblins), but it seems the tribes most likely to get attention there are "Elder Dragon" and "God".