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Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
With the blink archtype all of the Splicers are no surprise and neither is Goyf. This might just be the final hit that Goyf needs to get taken down to below $75.
You can complain at all of the upshifts you want, but I think you're stressing yourself out a bit too much if you expect valuable mythics from previous Masters sets to get downshifted.
I am really excited to draft this set, splicers and blinks are always a hoot and every day I get more excited for this set.
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Well following the logic in MM i shouldn't be suprised but logically Tarmogoyf shouldn't be mythic at all other then because of its power level.
It's not complex, not a planeswalekr or important to the lore or anything. It's not powerfull in limited without graveyard matters cards. Fetch lands might bump his pwoer up abit but fetches won't be all that comon in limited, not comon enough to make it the dominat power in limtied.
So again no i don't expect and nobody should expect him at mythic but that shouldn't be his rarity. I'm glad its been repritned atleast.
Well following the logic in MM i shouldn't be suprised but logically Tarmogoyf shouldn't be mythic at all other then because of its power level.
It's not complex, not a planeswalekr or important to the lore or anything. It's not powerfull in limited without graveyard matters cards. Fetch lands might bump his pwoer up abit but fetches won't be all that comon in limited, not comon enough to make it the dominat power in limtied.
So again no i don't expect and nobody should expect him at mythic but that shouldn't be his rarity. I'm glad its been repritned at least.
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Holy mother of value though...this set just keeps sweetening the deal. THIS is what a Modern Masters set looks like. I'm also VERY happy to get to playw ith the Splicers in limited again! They were one of my favorite sets of cards in New Phyrexia.
It makes zero sense to have Tarmogoyf and Cavern of Souls at mythic and Niv-Mizzet shifted down to rare. Niv-Mizzet is exactly the sort of legendary, powerful, storyline-dependent card that the mythic rarity was originally created for.
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This could absolutely crush goyf's value. I didn't think they would reprint him this time with another super high value mythic in the set. The expected value seems insane. Is it worth shops cracking boxes themselves for singles instead of selling them yet?
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With the blink archtype all of the Splicers are no surprise and neither is Goyf. This might just be the final hit that Goyf needs to get taken down to below $75.
Which is still far too much for a card like that. It's not more powerful than other format staples, not nearly to justify even half of its price, but collectors refuse to accept it...
That is certainly true. Goyf being above $50 is rather crazy, at least I think so, but if it was around $50 I wouldn't mind it, for the most part.
It makes zero sense to have Tarmogoyf and Cavern of Souls at mythic and Niv-Mizzet shifted down to rare. Niv-Mizzet is exactly the sort of legendary, powerful, storyline-dependent card that the mythic rarity was originally created for.
Outside of the story aspect, there is absolutely nothing Mythic about Niv-Mizzet. I think it is time for people to understand that in this set everything is based off of either secondary market value (as it should be considering this is a supplemental set) as well as draft value. I wonder about some people here sometimes get that this set was put together with these two principles in mind yet some people are calling for no mythic rarity in this set. Hilarious.
Another MMA set, another set where goyf wasn't downshifted to rare. Then again goyf being in a modern masters set is a gimme because the moment it isn't in one the market will go crazy.
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It makes zero sense to have Tarmogoyf and Cavern of Souls at mythic and Niv-Mizzet shifted down to rare. Niv-Mizzet is exactly the sort of legendary, powerful, storyline-dependent card that the mythic rarity was originally created for.
Outside of the story aspect, there is absolutely nothing Mythic about Niv-Mizzet. I think it is time for people to understand that in this set everything is based off of either secondary market value (as it should be considering this is a supplemental set) as well as draft value. I wonder about some people here sometimes get that this set was put together with these two principles in mind yet some people are calling for no mythic rarity in this set. Hilarious.
I don't like mythic rarity in the set because it aids stores in gauging card printings in these reprint sets, which can lead to market manipulation. Setting all the cards at rare and just shifting around the print numbers behind the scenes is safer.
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1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!
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Goyf: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/beyond-basics/card-changed-world-2017-03-02
Splicers: http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/card-preview/return-splicers-2017-03-02
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Not sure why you'd expect any other rarity?
You can complain at all of the upshifts you want, but I think you're stressing yourself out a bit too much if you expect valuable mythics from previous Masters sets to get downshifted.
UBG Tasigur, the lab enabler UR Planeswalker Control
UBRW Breya's personal box of combos BRW Vampire beats, by Dre
1 Karn, where all lands are command towers UBR Inalla's Venser lock
UBRGW Atog Atog contraption tribal WUB Xur's second chance
UGW Derivi, bird tribal R Brother's Yamazaki
BRG Prosh, the scourge of multiplayer GW Capt. Sisay's Deck Dumping Service
UB All Your Spells do Belong to Me UG Tapioca Pearl
BG Meren's grinder
Well following the logic in MM i shouldn't be suprised but logically Tarmogoyf shouldn't be mythic at all other then because of its power level.
It's not complex, not a planeswalekr or important to the lore or anything. It's not powerfull in limited without graveyard matters cards. Fetch lands might bump his pwoer up abit but fetches won't be all that comon in limited, not comon enough to make it the dominat power in limtied.
So again no i don't expect and nobody should expect him at mythic but that shouldn't be his rarity. I'm glad its been repritned atleast.
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That is certainly true. Goyf being above $50 is rather crazy, at least I think so, but if it was around $50 I wouldn't mind it, for the most part.
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Outside of the story aspect, there is absolutely nothing Mythic about Niv-Mizzet. I think it is time for people to understand that in this set everything is based off of either secondary market value (as it should be considering this is a supplemental set) as well as draft value. I wonder about some people here sometimes get that this set was put together with these two principles in mind yet some people are calling for no mythic rarity in this set. Hilarious.
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I don't like mythic rarity in the set because it aids stores in gauging card printings in these reprint sets, which can lead to market manipulation. Setting all the cards at rare and just shifting around the print numbers behind the scenes is safer.
1. (Ravnica Allegiance): You can't keep a good esper control deck down... Or Wilderness Reclamation... or Gates...
2. (War of the Spark): Guys, I know what we need! We need a cycle of really idiotic flavor text victory cards! Jace's Triumph...
3. (War of the Spark): Lets make the format with control have even more control!