I didn't see a post for this, nor any pictures from the mothersite.
I compiled a list of tokens that we see in each deck.
Entropic Uprising Tokens
2/2 Black Zombie
1/1 Red Goblin, "Creatures you control attack each turn if able"
1/1 Green Elf Warrior
1/1 Black/Green Worm
Open Hostilities Tokens
1/1 Green Saproling
Stalwart Unity Tokens
1/1 Colorless Spirit
1/1 White Bird, Flying
4/4 White Elemental, Flying
1/1 White Soldier
2/2 Blue Bird, Flying
1/1 Blue Squid, Islandwalk
3/3 Red Ogre
3/3 Green Beast
Breed Lethality Tokens
1/1 White Bird, Flying
1/1 White Spirit, Flying
0/0 Black Germ
1/1 Green Saproling
Invent Superiority Tokens
1/1 White Bird, Flying
0/1 White Goat
1/1 Blue Artifact Thopter, Flying
0/0 Black Germ
X/X Artifact Horror
1/1 Artifact Myr
Daretti Emblem
Doesn't seem as though there is a token of something we didn't have previously from older cards that didn't exist already and only a couple new ones it seems.
I am hoping the Saproling uses the really old Jeff Laubenstein art, but that is pretty unlikely.
This one? I wouldn't hold my breath. They seem to prefer the more wood- or twig-like saprolings now, as opposed to the worm-like one of Jeff Laubenstein.
BTW, is it possible to tag specific versions of tokens with card tags? I can get Wasteland/Wasteland in the 2001 player reward version, but not Saproling/Saproling (without/with tag specifying version).
I was wondering why the Invent Superiority commander produced blue token. I had not realized that thopter foundry already created blue thopters. Seems gratuitous that it does. I guess they went overboard with colored artifacts when designing Esper in Alara.
Sharding Sphinx also produces blue Thopters. It's not overboard, it's on theme.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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I am hoping the Saproling uses the really old Jeff Laubenstein art, but that is pretty unlikely.
This one? I wouldn't hold my breath. They seem to prefer the more wood- or twig-like saprolings now, as opposed to the worm-like one of Jeff Laubenstein.
Yes, I just like to make a lot of saprolings that look different because they have so much diversity, but that token is really difficult to find. Other cards from that time also show that type of saproling: Spontaneous Generation, Saproling Cluster. I was thinking that sometimes they reprint those old versions like the Bear from Commander 2015 and the Elephant from Garruk vs Liliana so we could get lucky some day.
You are right though, considering the art on Tana, the Bloodsower, they are probably just going to print the pointy stick Saproling yet again. I do not dislike that one, but it has already been printed so many times that it is not exciting to have more.
I was wondering why the Invent Superiority commander produced blue token. I had not realized that thopter foundry already created blue thopters. Seems gratuitous that it does. I guess they went overboard with colored artifacts when designing Esper in Alara.
Too be fair, thopter tokens being colorless wasn't the norm until Magic Origins. Prior to Alara, the only card to produce thopter tokens of any kind was Thopter Squadron. From all the way back in Exodus. And the only other to make colorless thopter tokens before Origins was Thopter Assembly in Mirrodin Besieged. So, for a while there, colorless thopter tokens were the abnormal ones.
The "look" of saprolings seem to be highly plane-dependent. Like goblins, which look very different on Tarkir and Mercadia. So a saproling on Mercadia isn't the same as one on Dominaria or Ravnica etc. The saproling on Tana, the Bloodsower looks like Brad Rigney's art, which also has been reprinted a couple of times. I think that "look" first appeared on Fungal Sprouting, which references Ghave, Guru of Spores, but I'm not sure if it's ever been revealed where he's from. Brad Rigney's Art has only been used in core sets and a duel deck, so it's an open guess which plane it's supposed to represent.
YES they used the Seb McKinnon Theros art for the Solider Token! And reprinted the 2/2 Blue Bird one from Theros! Who knew these decks could get even better. They made the right call on so many things!
The "look" of saprolings seem to be highly plane-dependent. Like goblins, which look very different on Tarkir and Mercadia. So a saproling on Mercadia isn't the same as one on Dominaria or Ravnica etc. The saproling on Tana, the Bloodsower looks like Brad Rigney's art, which also has been reprinted a couple of times. I think that "look" first appeared on Fungal Sprouting, which references Ghave, Guru of Spores, but I'm not sure if it's ever been revealed where he's from. Brad Rigney's Art has only been used in core sets and a duel deck, so it's an open guess which plane it's supposed to represent.
Original Ravnica had a few different types, probably trying to reflect differences among the guilds, but I think the Selesnya crystal one was the most iconic. RtR printing is similar but lacks the crystal and legs, so it is probably the same type but it feels a bit different. Supply // Demand, Selesnya Evangel, Fists of Ironwood, Seed Spark, Vitu-Ghazi, the City-Tree
Guess I will just hope that the next thallid/saproling set gets a feature like Eldrazi Scions, Clues, Zombies, Thopters, and Servos have recently
Dammit, always that same friggin' zombie token. There are some truly amazing zombie token illustrations, and yet they insist on reusing the second-ugliest zombie token art of all time.
Dammit, always that same friggin' zombie token. There are some truly amazing zombie token illustrations, and yet they insist on reusing the second-ugliest zombie token art of all time.
I'm starting to wonder if they just had the original token on the desk and every time they asked "Did we commission new Zombie token art for this product" and the answer was "No", they'll just point to that token on the desk. Either that, or that Zombie Token is digitally stored as the first Zombie token in their online files for a similar effect.
Well, I have two copies of Zombie tokens of every different art (ever since tokens were included in Standard boosters, so no Un-Sets and/or Promo/Reward ones, although I opted for the foil EMN ones since they were recent), so this just means I don't have scout for these.
Original Ravnica had a few different types, probably trying to reflect differences among the guilds, but I think the Selesnya crystal one was the most iconic. RtR printing is similar but lacks the crystal and legs, so it is probably the same type but it feels a bit different. Supply // Demand, Selesnya Evangel, Fists of Ironwood, Seed Spark, Vitu-Ghazi, the City-Tree
Guess I will just hope that the next thallid/saproling set gets a feature like Eldrazi Scions, Clues, Zombies, Thopters, and Servos have recently
You're completely right about the crystals. Fingers crossed on the thallid/saproling set.
I love the new bird token, and the spirit token. And as several have pointed out, that zombie token has been reprinted too many times. Any other art would have been more interesting. I had completely forgotten about the artifact horror token, but it's pretty good (originally from mirrodin besieged).
YES they used the Seb McKinnon Theros art for the Solider Token! And reprinted the 2/2 Blue Bird one from Theros! Who knew these decks could get even better. They made the right call on so many things!
Eh, there is just one 2/2 blue Bird available (the other one ever printed is Enchantment Creature), so I honestly do not know why they would NOT reprint the swan from Swan Song...
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So sick of that zombie token, just like everyone else it seems. Glad to see the Swan Song bird token again, love it. Also reprinting my favorite Beast token art too.
Does anybody know how the sides of the tokens are combined, and how many of each appears in the decks?
There are 10 in each deck, I know only the contents of two of them:
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10 Saproling / Saproling (All identical with different arts on both sides)
Just a funny thing to point out:
Entropic uprising has Army of the damned. Doesn't come with 13 zombie tokens. Wizards FAILED hard on this one. I understand no being able to prepare for how many Elemental or Soldier tokens one might make, but c'mon. I played this deck out of the box last week as was thoroughly disappointed it didn't have the 13 tokens in it. Then I got over it and used dice for the last 3 :).
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I compiled a list of tokens that we see in each deck.
Entropic Uprising Tokens
2/2 Black Zombie
1/1 Red Goblin, "Creatures you control attack each turn if able"
1/1 Green Elf Warrior
1/1 Black/Green Worm
Open Hostilities Tokens
1/1 Green Saproling
Stalwart Unity Tokens
1/1 Colorless Spirit
1/1 White Bird, Flying
4/4 White Elemental, Flying
1/1 White Soldier
2/2 Blue Bird, Flying
1/1 Blue Squid, Islandwalk
3/3 Red Ogre
3/3 Green Beast
Breed Lethality Tokens
1/1 White Bird, Flying
1/1 White Spirit, Flying
0/0 Black Germ
1/1 Green Saproling
Invent Superiority Tokens
1/1 White Bird, Flying
0/1 White Goat
1/1 Blue Artifact Thopter, Flying
0/0 Black Germ
X/X Artifact Horror
1/1 Artifact Myr
Daretti Emblem
This one? I wouldn't hold my breath. They seem to prefer the more wood- or twig-like saprolings now, as opposed to the worm-like one of Jeff Laubenstein.
BTW, is it possible to tag specific versions of tokens with card tags? I can get Wasteland/Wasteland in the 2001 player reward version, but not Saproling/Saproling (without/with tag specifying version).
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
I would also be very happy if they made some new tokens with the other varieties that have not yet been printed too: Greener Pastures, Pallid Mycoderm, Scatter the Seeds, Sprout Swarm, Vitaspore Thallid
You are right though, considering the art on Tana, the Bloodsower, they are probably just going to print the pointy stick Saproling yet again. I do not dislike that one, but it has already been printed so many times that it is not exciting to have more.
Scatter the Seeds kind of looks like Raoul Vitale's art from RTR.
Personally I would love a Sprout Swarm saproling.
for pictures of the tokens
https://archidekt.com/user/71716
i love those pictures but the zombie
*facepalm* use a different zombie picture already
but OMG That full art Spirit token looks amazing
YES they used the Seb McKinnon Theros art for the Solider Token! And reprinted the 2/2 Blue Bird one from Theros! Who knew these decks could get even better. They made the right call on so many things!
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Original Ravnica had a few different types, probably trying to reflect differences among the guilds, but I think the Selesnya crystal one was the most iconic. RtR printing is similar but lacks the crystal and legs, so it is probably the same type but it feels a bit different. Supply // Demand, Selesnya Evangel, Fists of Ironwood, Seed Spark, Vitu-Ghazi, the City-Tree
Guess I will just hope that the next thallid/saproling set gets a feature like Eldrazi Scions, Clues, Zombies, Thopters, and Servos have recently
Zombies have by far the highest number of different artworks but they insist on reusing The Zombie Token. = P
I'm starting to wonder if they just had the original token on the desk and every time they asked "Did we commission new Zombie token art for this product" and the answer was "No", they'll just point to that token on the desk. Either that, or that Zombie Token is digitally stored as the first Zombie token in their online files for a similar effect.
Well, I have two copies of Zombie tokens of every different art (ever since tokens were included in Standard boosters, so no Un-Sets and/or Promo/Reward ones, although I opted for the foil EMN ones since they were recent), so this just means I don't have scout for these.
You're completely right about the crystals. Fingers crossed on the thallid/saproling set.
I love the new bird token, and the spirit token. And as several have pointed out, that zombie token has been reprinted too many times. Any other art would have been more interesting. I had completely forgotten about the artifact horror token, but it's pretty good (originally from mirrodin besieged).
That's why I might use the BFZ zombies and the foil double sided one from EMN
Eh, there is just one 2/2 blue Bird available (the other one ever printed is Enchantment Creature), so I honestly do not know why they would NOT reprint the swan from Swan Song...
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So sick of that zombie token, just like everyone else it seems. Glad to see the Swan Song bird token again, love it. Also reprinting my favorite Beast token art too.
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10 Saproling / Saproling (All identical with different arts on both sides)
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2 Elf warrior / Zombie
3 Goblin (spimaster) / Zombie
5 Worm /zombie
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Entropic uprising has Army of the damned. Doesn't come with 13 zombie tokens. Wizards FAILED hard on this one. I understand no being able to prepare for how many Elemental or Soldier tokens one might make, but c'mon. I played this deck out of the box last week as was thoroughly disappointed it didn't have the 13 tokens in it. Then I got over it and used dice for the last 3 :).