bomat courier is the card that impresses me most. At the very least it cycles itself for a total of two mana. It does become awkward in multiple, especially if they wipe the board. Still, aggro colorless one-drop with red upside, we can't complain.
Dovan is so fair... I guess he's UW. Oh right, he is! Tamiyo is still better if you can afford to play Bant, IMO. More loyalty, sometime better card draw and arguably better ultimate.
Epic faceplant on those PW tutors wiz. They'd still be awful even if they could get ANY PW with chandra/nissa in the name, but as they are... geez.
Could not disagree more. Can't believe these aren't getting more attention. They both are incredibly powerful with useful spells that also get you another TUTORED FREE card of which might be the most powerful card in your deck (especially the Chandra). Those tutors are by far the most exciting cards spoiled in this thread. These days we usually get 4-5cc tutors and now we get free removal or ramp, yes, PLEASE.
It's an instant speed 5/5 trampler for 4. Wtf do you people want seriously? It has applications in populate/ above the curve beats decks, or in Bant control/ flash. I seriously think anyone mad at this card for any reason other than losing an attacker to instant speed wurm, should go home and make their own awesome card game and leave the rest of us alone.
Dovin shuts down Aggro/Burn pretty hard. Dovin vs Chandra incomming.
Scrapheap Scrounger is a nightmare for Control. Or some combo which requires to sac a creature or artifact.
Bomat Courier leaves up questions for me. Do they have seperate piles when I play multiples of them? Do I only need one to get all the cards faced down by their abilities?
Separate piles for each of them: when a card refers to its name it means [that card], for it to be the same people it would need to be worded more like cylian sunslinger
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Flame Lash just may be Standard playable due to the lack of Burn spells that can be thrown at creatures or players. What a strange and frightening time to be a Red player.
So this guy is a master artificer story-wise and his card does absolutely NOTHING in that regard? I'd call that a pretty big flavor-fail. A nice walker still, very balanced, but he isn't one of the gatewatch so they toned him down a notch I assume. constructs seem unplayable.
I don't think he is supposed to be a master artificer. He's a master bureaucrat
This points to either Liliana being in Aether Revolt (not likely IMO) or Tezzeret has to be at least partly Black.
The promo art we've seen makes it likely that the other PW in Aether Revolt will be at least partly White.
So Tezzeret is likely either Dimir or Esper in nature.
Just feels better with him being strictly Dimir. Especially if we really do end up getting Ajani next set, that's a lot of white. I can see him being Naya if necessary though (ala why Tamiyo was forced into Bant).
Also, how about that flavor of Dovin's -1, it's him murdering a Filigree Familiar.
So this guy is a master artificer story-wise and his card does absolutely NOTHING in that regard? I'd call that a pretty big flavor-fail. A nice walker still, very balanced, but he isn't one of the gatewatch so they toned him down a notch I assume. constructs seem unplayable.
From his Planeswalker page:
Dovin has an innate talent, heightened by magic, that allows him to detect all the flaws of any given machine. As a Consulate inspector, he uses his gift to correct faults in new inventions, but there are those who would rather see him use it to exploit weakness.
Dovin gives me a very Architect of Thought vibe, and RTR Jace was definitely no slouch at the time, although control was in a much better shape when that set was out.
Courier has a chance at being in Affinity. Most times the player plops out their hand by turn two and this could easily be a "R, Sac: Draw two" in those situations.
For the bomat (Wana call it Bromat) if you attack turn 1, then turn 2 flicker it to save it from removal do the initial exiled cards remain exiled? Or does the pile just grow with the next attack?
For the bomat (Wana call it Bromat) if you attack turn 1, then turn 2 flicker it to save it from removal do the initial exiled cards remain exiled? Or does the pile just grow with the next attack?
It would be a new object and a new pile of exiled cards, the others would be lost to you. Just like if you flicker or cast a second Ashiok, you can't get the creatures exiled with the first.
Divin Baan- I think he has a very nieche role to play, as a CA engine in an extremely controlling deck. However, I think it reflects how much WotC nerfs control.
CONS: In recent years, if a walker costs X cmc has X (or more) loyalty. Dovin is the exception, costing 4 and having 3 loyalty.
Also, he will very rarely gain you card advantge: if you -1, chances are they'll attack into him/burn him and then you just spent 4 mana and a card for a cantirp that gains two life. That's pretty terrible. If you + him, he does not give any CA, he is just "trading" 1-1 (not really trading, as the creature will still be in play).
PROS: Play him into an empty field, and -1 three times. Then you get 3 cards and 6 life for a card and 4 mana. This is quite a reasonable bargain.
I'm dissapointed that Dovin has nothing to do with artifacts after all we know about him. I like the card, though (although he's going to be a pain to play against)
Azorius Spirits are currently dominating the metagame. Not seeing anything in Kaladesh that will change that. We'd need to see something at 1 CMC that can wipe a board of 1 toughness creatures and an instant at <=2 cmc to deal with Queller for us to deal with spirits on turn 3 before they get out of hand. Or I guess something at 2CMC to wipe the board of 1 toughness and 1 CMC to deal with the queller that eats the first spell.
Languish is rotating out and red doesn't have anything that can wipe the board except in narrow decks (One boardwipe requires multicolour, the other requires Eldrazi)
So does Dovin being Azorius mean we can finally put to rest the speculation that Tezzeret is going to be Esper?
No. Still doesn't change the fact that we are probably getting 6 planeswalkers this block (because there's no way they'd only do 1 planeswalker in a set) - which means one of them has to be 'narrow' for the same reasons Tamiyo was 3 colours. That's the main reason why we speculated Tez will be 3 colours.
We also don't know we are getting him this block - he could be a set-up for next block.
So the current possibilities;
We're getting a different planeswalker that'll be 3 colours (Ajani?)
Tezzeret will be UB in the next block, and we'll get 2 other planeswalkers in Aether Revolt.
Tezzeret will be in Aether Revolt as WUB and we'll get another planeswalker.
Wizards is just throwing darts and the story about Tamiyo being 3 colours was complete bunk.
Too much crossover with colors.
Didn't stop them from putting Tamiyo in a block that already had Jace.
This points to either Liliana being in Aether Revolt (not likely IMO) or Tezzeret has to be at least partly Black.
The promo art we've seen makes it likely that the other PW in Aether Revolt will be at least partly White.
So Tezzeret is likely either Dimir or Esper in nature.
Just feels better with him being strictly Dimir. Especially if we really do end up getting Ajani next set, that's a lot of white. I can see him being Naya if necessary though (ala why Tamiyo was forced into Bant).
Also, how about that flavor of Dovin's -1, it's him murdering a Filigree Familiar.
That's not flavor. It's got nothing to do with Filigree Familiar it's just similar gains.
Scrapheap Scrounger is a natural fit for BU zombies--exile something useless to bring back the Scrounger and Prized Amalgam. If you exiled Eternal Scourge then you can summon it from exile on your next turn. On the other hand, you could go with BU emerge and sacrifice these creatures for Elder Deep-Fiend or Distended Mindbender before you exile the Scourge to bring back the Scrounger and the Amalgam.
This points to either Liliana being in Aether Revolt (not likely IMO) or Tezzeret has to be at least partly Black.
The promo art we've seen makes it likely that the other PW in Aether Revolt will be at least partly White.
So Tezzeret is likely either Dimir or Esper in nature.
Just feels better with him being strictly Dimir. Especially if we really do end up getting Ajani next set, that's a lot of white. I can see him being Naya if necessary though (ala why Tamiyo was forced into Bant).
Also, how about that flavor of Dovin's -1, it's him murdering a Filigree Familiar.
I mean, I expect Dimir and Selesnya for the last two, but tricolor isn't ruled out for either. Color balance makes it so either could be without it being a big issue, barring maybe the lack of Black. But we've had 0 in a Planeswalker color balance as recently as Tarkir, so it's not that out there.
This points to either Liliana being in Aether Revolt (not likely IMO) or Tezzeret has to be at least partly Black.
The promo art we've seen makes it likely that the other PW in Aether Revolt will be at least partly White.
So Tezzeret is likely either Dimir or Esper in nature.
Tezz will be u/b or just black. If Mr Whiskers gets a card it will be w/g or mono white. No reason for Tezz to be esper and that would mean 6 white walkers in standard at once, which seems like a pretty heavy and unlikely imbalance
This points to either Liliana being in Aether Revolt (not likely IMO) or Tezzeret has to be at least partly Black.
The promo art we've seen makes it likely that the other PW in Aether Revolt will be at least partly White.
So Tezzeret is likely either Dimir or Esper in nature.
Tezz will be u/b or just black. If Mr Whiskers gets a card it will be w/g or mono white. No reason for Tezz to be esper and that would mean 6 white walkers in standard at once, which seems like a pretty heavy and unlikely imbalance
Yeah they would have to print some kind of white Collected Company variant for Planeswalkers.
Oh wait...
This points to either Liliana being in Aether Revolt (not likely IMO) or Tezzeret has to be at least partly Black.
The promo art we've seen makes it likely that the other PW in Aether Revolt will be at least partly White.
So Tezzeret is likely either Dimir or Esper in nature.
Just feels better with him being strictly Dimir. Especially if we really do end up getting Ajani next set, that's a lot of white. I can see him being Naya if necessary though (ala why Tamiyo was forced into Bant).
Makes more sense to keep Tezzeret Dimir and Ajani Naya. Why force Tezzeret into a 3rd color, Ajani has shown he is a lot closer to red then Tezzeret is to white (heck Tezzeret is closer to red then white).
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So Tezzeret is likely either Dimir or Esper in nature.
Tezz will be u/b or just black. If Mr Whiskers gets a card it will be w/g or mono white. No reason for Tezz to be esper and that would mean 6 white walkers in standard at once, which seems like a pretty heavy and unlikely imbalance
The reason Tamiyo was tri-colour was because she was the 6th walker. Since we are getting 6 walkers again, one of them must be tri-coloured. Unless MaRo's story about Tamiyo was complete bunk.
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Dovan is so fair... I guess he's UW. Oh right, he is! Tamiyo is still better if you can afford to play Bant, IMO. More loyalty, sometime better card draw and arguably better ultimate.
Scrapheap scrounger is an obvious bone to the prized amalgam deck.
Could not disagree more. Can't believe these aren't getting more attention. They both are incredibly powerful with useful spells that also get you another TUTORED FREE card of which might be the most powerful card in your deck (especially the Chandra). Those tutors are by far the most exciting cards spoiled in this thread. These days we usually get 4-5cc tutors and now we get free removal or ramp, yes, PLEASE.
Separate piles for each of them: when a card refers to its name it means [that card], for it to be the same people it would need to be worded more like cylian sunslinger
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Just feels better with him being strictly Dimir. Especially if we really do end up getting Ajani next set, that's a lot of white. I can see him being Naya if necessary though (ala why Tamiyo was forced into Bant).
Also, how about that flavor of Dovin's -1, it's him murdering a Filigree Familiar.
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From his Planeswalker page:
He's not a master artificer.
Courier has a chance at being in Affinity. Most times the player plops out their hand by turn two and this could easily be a "R, Sac: Draw two" in those situations.
It would be a new object and a new pile of exiled cards, the others would be lost to you. Just like if you flicker or cast a second Ashiok, you can't get the creatures exiled with the first.
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I'll definitely brew with him, and while I remain optimistic, I'm not too optimistic.
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Azorius Spirits are currently dominating the metagame. Not seeing anything in Kaladesh that will change that. We'd need to see something at 1 CMC that can wipe a board of 1 toughness creatures and an instant at <=2 cmc to deal with Queller for us to deal with spirits on turn 3 before they get out of hand. Or I guess something at 2CMC to wipe the board of 1 toughness and 1 CMC to deal with the queller that eats the first spell.
Languish is rotating out and red doesn't have anything that can wipe the board except in narrow decks (One boardwipe requires multicolour, the other requires Eldrazi)
No. Still doesn't change the fact that we are probably getting 6 planeswalkers this block (because there's no way they'd only do 1 planeswalker in a set) - which means one of them has to be 'narrow' for the same reasons Tamiyo was 3 colours. That's the main reason why we speculated Tez will be 3 colours.
We also don't know we are getting him this block - he could be a set-up for next block.
So the current possibilities;
Didn't stop them from putting Tamiyo in a block that already had Jace.
That's not flavor. It's got nothing to do with Filigree Familiar it's just similar gains.
Love the common dual lands. I believe they should always be common.
I mean, I expect Dimir and Selesnya for the last two, but tricolor isn't ruled out for either. Color balance makes it so either could be without it being a big issue, barring maybe the lack of Black. But we've had 0 in a Planeswalker color balance as recently as Tarkir, so it's not that out there.
Yeah they would have to print some kind of white Collected Company variant for Planeswalkers.
Oh wait...
Makes more sense to keep Tezzeret Dimir and Ajani Naya. Why force Tezzeret into a 3rd color, Ajani has shown he is a lot closer to red then Tezzeret is to white (heck Tezzeret is closer to red then white).
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That's not very meaningful when you'd have to play five colors to run all of them, and two of them are tri-colored.
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The reason Tamiyo was tri-colour was because she was the 6th walker. Since we are getting 6 walkers again, one of them must be tri-coloured. Unless MaRo's story about Tamiyo was complete bunk.
And Tezzeret being Esper does not affect color balance the way people think, only color where it would be an issue is Black.
Here's another aetherborn
http://mythicspoiler.com/kld/cards/aetherbornmarauder.html