I think it's funny that the plane that the main character pyromancer is from can't even print good red spells. Compare the red puzzle to any of the other colors. Seriously, 1 damage? Really? You can spend 5 mana to SHOCK something/someone? What the hell is wrong with just reprinting shock?
I do get that we have two decent to the face burn spells in standard already, but this is like... the pyromancer plane. One would think that the pyromancers would have better spells.
You find it funny but it is one of the biggest flavor wins in quite a while. Chandra was seen as dangerous because the plane has been working to suppress the dangerous side of red while embracing its non destructive parts full force. This is most certainly not "the pyromancer plane" this is as opposite you can be without actually being the opposite(cryomancers). This plane hates Pyromancers our beloved walker was hunted down for this exact reason, if that isn't a compelling story reason to tone down burn significantly I'm not sure what is.
I think it's funny that the plane that the main character pyromancer is from can't even print good red spells. Compare the red puzzle to any of the other colors. Seriously, 1 damage? Really? You can spend 5 mana to SHOCK something/someone? What the hell is wrong with just reprinting shock?
I do get that we have two decent to the face burn spells in standard already, but this is like... the pyromancer plane. One would think that the pyromancers would have better spells.
You find it funny but it is one of the biggest flavor wins in quite a while. Chandra was seen as dangerous because the plane has been working to suppress the dangerous side of red while embracing its non destructive parts full force. This is most certainly not "the pyromancer plane" this is as opposite you can be without actually being the opposite(cryomancers). This plane hates Pyromancers our beloved walker was hunted down for this exact reason, if that isn't a compelling story reason to tone down burn significantly I'm not sure what is.
Now you see, this is what I agree with full force. If burn is bad cause the plane hates pyromancers, then yes. Make burn weak and buff Red's creatures(which they have been so far). Make Red do weird things(like the energy that Red loves so much right now). I do not disagree with Kaladesh's style of Red, however... I do expect Revolution to have good burn spells for the very same story reasons.
I think it's funny that the plane that the main character pyromancer is from can't even print good red spells. Compare the red puzzle to any of the other colors. Seriously, 1 damage? Really? You can spend 5 mana to SHOCK something/someone? What the hell is wrong with just reprinting shock?
I do get that we have two decent to the face burn spells in standard already, but this is like... the pyromancer plane. One would think that the pyromancers would have better spells.
You find it funny but it is one of the biggest flavor wins in quite a while. Chandra was seen as dangerous because the plane has been working to suppress the dangerous side of red while embracing its non destructive parts full force. This is most certainly not "the pyromancer plane" this is as opposite you can be without actually being the opposite(cryomancers). This plane hates Pyromancers our beloved walker was hunted down for this exact reason, if that isn't a compelling story reason to tone down burn significantly I'm not sure what is.
Fair enough I suppose, though the story of Chandra has her at the head of an order of pyromancers, if I remember correctly, they are still active unless things have changed dramatically since BFZ. Totally possible with how things role in the magic world, but if pyromancers are being hunted down i would assume they are also fighting back. Hopefully we see some of that.
I think it's funny that the plane that the main character pyromancer is from can't even print good red spells. Compare the red puzzle to any of the other colors. Seriously, 1 damage? Really? You can spend 5 mana to SHOCK something/someone? What the hell is wrong with just reprinting shock?
I do get that we have two decent to the face burn spells in standard already, but this is like... the pyromancer plane. One would think that the pyromancers would have better spells.
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
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I think it's funny that the plane that the main character pyromancer is from can't even print good red spells. Compare the red puzzle to any of the other colors. Seriously, 1 damage? Really? You can spend 5 mana to SHOCK something/someone? What the hell is wrong with just reprinting shock?
I do get that we have two decent to the face burn spells in standard already, but this is like... the pyromancer plane. One would think that the pyromancers would have better spells.
If energy ever becomes a standard deck, Harnessed Lightning will be one of the strongest cards this standard. The flexibility of that card is insane. The ability to generate, zero sum, or consume energy based on the situation is huge for playability, and all at instant speed.
Fair enough I suppose, though the story of Chandra has her at the head of an order of pyromancers, if I remember correctly, they are still active unless things have changed dramatically since BFZ. Totally possible with how things role in the magic world, but if pyromancers are being hunted down i would assume they are also fighting back. Hopefully we see some of that.
Completely different plane. Chandra was born on Kaladesh but the plane you are thinking of is Regatha, the one she fist walked to and has an order of fire monks. If we went to Regatha and found little to no fire magic most people would be upset.
Chandra fist walked to Regatha? She must be one heck of an athlete in addition to a pyromancer, then. "Hey Gids, you know how some really talented acrobats can walk on their hands? Well flaming watch this!"
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Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
Fair enough I suppose, though the story of Chandra has her at the head of an order of pyromancers, if I remember correctly, they are still active unless things have changed dramatically since BFZ. Totally possible with how things role in the magic world, but if pyromancers are being hunted down i would assume they are also fighting back. Hopefully we see some of that.
Completely different plane. Chandra was born on Kaladesh but the plane you are thinking of is Regatha, the one she fist walked to and has an order of fire monks. If we went to Regatha and found little to no fire magic most people would be upset.
I guess i just assumed that part somewhere along the way. Thanks for the correction.
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Now you see, this is what I agree with full force. If burn is bad cause the plane hates pyromancers, then yes. Make burn weak and buff Red's creatures(which they have been so far). Make Red do weird things(like the energy that Red loves so much right now). I do not disagree with Kaladesh's style of Red, however... I do expect Revolution to have good burn spells for the very same story reasons.
Fair enough I suppose, though the story of Chandra has her at the head of an order of pyromancers, if I remember correctly, they are still active unless things have changed dramatically since BFZ. Totally possible with how things role in the magic world, but if pyromancers are being hunted down i would assume they are also fighting back. Hopefully we see some of that.
I think it premature to judge the quality of burn in this set until we see the full set. That said, Harnessed Lightning and Dynavolt Tower offer potential for a burn deck with an energetic twist. I can see RW decks making good use of energy and tokens with cards like Master Trinketeer, Decoction Module, and Aetherworks Marvel.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
If energy ever becomes a standard deck, Harnessed Lightning will be one of the strongest cards this standard. The flexibility of that card is insane. The ability to generate, zero sum, or consume energy based on the situation is huge for playability, and all at instant speed.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
I guess i just assumed that part somewhere along the way. Thanks for the correction.