Don't mind me hijacking your post a bit and adding to it
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My Commander decks:
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
I'm really confused. What are these? Why do they have the Kaladesh symbol? There aren't actually two Chandras in this set, are there (especially this bland one)?
Hmm, looks like their collector numbers come after the last card. They're some sort of bonus cards? I guess they're standard legal?
I'm really confused. What are these? Why do they have the Kaladesh symbol? There aren't actually two Chandras in this set, are there (especially this bland one)?
It's a new product, the Planeswalker "intro" decks. Kinda like duel decks, the cards in these will be standard legal but they're geared towards new players.
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My Commander decks:
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
I'm really confused. What are these? Why do they have the Kaladesh symbol? There aren't actually two Chandras in this set, are there (especially this bland one)?
Hmm, looks like their collector numbers come after the last card. They're some sort of bonus cards? I guess they're standard legal?
Not a fan of grandma chandra art. Nissa on the other hand I'll pick up for the art alone, I love it. Might even be a cute planeswalker in edh, 6 mana ain't a problem for green there.
modules are pretty neat, animation module in particular. It can also give you another energy counter if you have one or even add a loyalty counter to a planeswalker, which seems pretty powerful. I also dig the packaging, pretty and colorful.
I'm SO SICK of the "too strong for Standard" argument. It's the new "Dies to removal". We can have a two mana 4/4 with a zillion abilities, but we can't just have Accumulated Knowledge. Makes sense.
What are people's thoughts on these planeswalkers for EDH. Are they worthy of that format?
They're not bad, tbh. I like how Nissa's second ability lets you net two cards and potentially ramp off them. Chandra is cool but a little bland. I'm excited to see the cards that can tutor them; in my opinion that would really help their overall effectiveness in the set.
I feel like Nissa's last ability and Nissa, Voice of Zendikar's ultimates should have been switched though. They match better on the other cards.
If I recall correctly, there are 10 cards from the planeswalker packs that will not be printed inside Kaladesh packs, can only be obtaind from the planeswalker pack, but are standard legal.
Thought madcap experiment was super broken until last line of text. Now you essentially need to combine it with brainstorm effects to cheat out blightsteel or something. Spoils of the vault 2.0 though, for sure. I guess spoils is a fixed demonic, just like this is a fixed tinker.
The walkers make me cry with their mediocrity.
Modules are neat.
Hellion is likely great or a bust.
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"Yawgmoth," Freyalise whispered as she set the bomb, "now you will pay for your treachery."
What are people's thoughts on these planeswalkers for EDH. Are they worthy of that format?
I think you need the right deck for them, but they could be usable. I might try to find a place for Chandra in my Gisela, Blade of Goldnight deck since the double damage makes her more worth it. Nissa could maybe see play in a Mono-Green deck that tris to go wide as another Overrun effect (if the deck wants it). I like her -4 ability except it is -4. I could see using it if it was only -2 (but that might be too strong) or even -3.
Overall, they are pretty weak, but that is exactly what these products want and I think they are much better than the Intro Decks of the past so they are still a good thing.
So... With Dovin on the packs we will have 4 AT LEAST 4 walkers on the first set alone (unless Nissa is pushed on Aether Revolt for... reasons...)?
Also very interested about that angel
... Also a callback to Mirrodin's "stations" ...
I kind of missed them.... Too bad you can't chain-combo these ones.
Kaladesh is confirmed to have 4 walkers: Saheeli, Chandra, Dovin, and Nissa
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Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
So... With Dovin on the packs we will have 4 AT LEAST 4 walkers on the first set alone (unless Nissa is pushed on Aether Revolt for... reasons...)?
Also very interested about that angel
... Also a callback to Mirrodin's "stations" ...
I kind of missed them.... Too bad you can't chain-combo these ones.
Not infinitely, but they produce a lot of value for a single mana one you have all three on the board
MTGS Wikia Article about "New World Order"
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
PSA to everyone who keeps forgetting about the Reserved List:
You're on a website dedicated to talking about MtG. You're only a few keystrokes away from finding out what cards are on the Reserved List. You're also only a few keystrokes away from finding out why some cards on the Reserved List got foil printings in FtV, as Judge promos, or whatnot, as well as why that won't happen again. Stop doing this.
So given we have Chandra, Dovin and Saheeli on the packs and then the rest are just creatures, safe to assume Tezzeret isn't getting his card until Aether Revolt afterall?
Or have we had walkers in a set that weren't featured on pack art before?
More to come, I assume.
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Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
Choose one of these judge of creation:
Make Strionic Resonator shine!
You can not grasp the true form of Ashiok's attack!
Hmm, looks like their collector numbers come after the last card. They're some sort of bonus cards? I guess they're standard legal?
It's a new product, the Planeswalker "intro" decks. Kinda like duel decks, the cards in these will be standard legal but they're geared towards new players.
Chandra, Torch of Defiance - Oops! All Chandras.
Prime Speaker Zegana - Draw for Power.
Pir & Toothy - Counterpalooza.
Arcades, the Strategist - Another Brick in the Wall.
Zacama, Primal Calamity - Calamity of Double Mana.
Edgar Markov - Vampires Don't Die.
Child of Alara - Dreamcrusher.
UBRKess, Dissident MageUBR - Controlling Dissidents
GRhonas the IndomitableG - Indomitable Four Drops
WUBOloro, Ageless AsceticWUB - Loot & Renanimate
http://magic.wizards.com/en/articles/archive/making-magic/ramp-approval-2016-05-16
Here you will find your answer.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
I could maybe see playing Nissa in EDH, but it would probably have to be like Monogreen Superfriends.
Lathnu Hellion looks strong though.
Chandra, Dovin, Demon of Dark Schemes, Saheeli and an angel with a tower on her head.
Let this great clan rest in peace (2001-2011)
modules are pretty neat, animation module in particular. It can also give you another energy counter if you have one or even add a loyalty counter to a planeswalker, which seems pretty powerful. I also dig the packaging, pretty and colorful.
They're also printing supporting cards that tutor for the walkers in each deck.
They're not bad, tbh. I like how Nissa's second ability lets you net two cards and potentially ramp off them. Chandra is cool but a little bland. I'm excited to see the cards that can tutor them; in my opinion that would really help their overall effectiveness in the set.
I feel like Nissa's last ability and Nissa, Voice of Zendikar's ultimates should have been switched though. They match better on the other cards.
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Commander: Allies & Adversaries
RGForest BelcherRG
WUBRGBring to BalanceWUBRG
Commander Decks:
WUBSharuum the HegemonWUB
WUBRGScion of the Ur-DragonWUBRG
UBDralnu, Lich LordUB
UBRNekusar, the MindrazerUBR
The walkers make me cry with their mediocrity.
Modules are neat.
Hellion is likely great or a bust.
Currently Playing:
Retired
Overall, they are pretty weak, but that is exactly what these products want and I think they are much better than the Intro Decks of the past so they are still a good thing.
Before the glory of Yawgmoth, yes, even this makes sense.
Kaladesh is confirmed to have 4 walkers: Saheeli, Chandra, Dovin, and Nissa
Standard - Some kind of control
Modern - UB Mill (casual)
EDH - Meren's Grave Shenanigans
Not infinitely, but they produce a lot of value for a single mana one you have all three on the board
Choose one of these judge of creation:
Make Strionic Resonator shine!
You can not grasp the true form of Ashiok's attack!
They are the cards that search for them in the planeswalker
Decks.
I love that trio of Modules. They remind me of Mirrodin's Stations. Not only is their art panoramic, it looks like it loops around.
If Dovin's getting art on the packaging, he's definitely getting a card, not that there was much doubt.
Every time I read a comment about "Well if this card had card draw/trample/haste/indestructible/hexproof/life gain...", I think "You're missing the point." They're armchair developer comments that fail to take into account the card's role in the greater Limited and Standard environment. No, it may not be as good as whatever card you're comparing it to. There's a reason for that. Not every burn spell is Lightning Bolt, nor does it need to be or should be.
Or have we had walkers in a set that weren't featured on pack art before?
UBBreya's Toybox (Competitive, Combo)WR
RGodzilla, King of the MonstersG
-Retired Decks-
UBLazav, Dimir Mastermind (Competitive, UB Voltron/Control)UB
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