Tezzeret and Dovin Baan could be the planeswalkers in the duel decks ( or maybe Wizards will do right and print the chandra of the main set also in the planeswalker decks ).
Either way it will be fun: Chandra discovers that Baan killed her father, or Chandra battles Tezzeret maybe trying to protect her mother, or Dovin Baan discovers Tezzeret's plans and try to stop hin ( which can led us to the next block: Tezzeret takes control of Kaladesh, Dovin goes ask help to the Jace League, they go to Kaladesh and the rebelion starts, Tezz flee and goes to Bolas's new plane).
To be in the duel decks they'd still have to be in the actual set.
I believe this is incorrect and will only happen sometimes. Was it stated otherwise, link if so please.
Chandra is silly powerful. Maybe OP. Definitely very little downside. There goes over $100
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I am not quiet sure he meant a playset or a single card. In both cases 100 is way off.
I would say this is going to pre-order for $40. Whether or not it stays there is for debate, though I imagine $25 a pop for its time in standard isn't unreasonable.
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You don't call "dying to removal" if the removal is more expensive in resources than the creature. If you have to spend BG (Abrupt Decay), or W + basic land (PtE) to remove a 1G, that is not "dying to removal". Strictly speaking Goyf dies to removal, but actually your removal is dying to Goyf.
worth noting you can't get lands off of the first ability unlike pyromaster version....but you'll shock the opponent. Pretty decent trade-off. Wizards just thought of everything on this card.
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Chandra is silly powerful. Maybe OP. Definitely very little downside. There goes over $100
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I am not quiet sure he meant a playset or a single card. In both cases 100 is way off.
Ahem...remember when Jace was $90 for just one? This Chandra is WAY better
There is going to be far more Kaladesh opened than Origins, lil Jace is more easily splashed, and it depends on whether Chandra has the support she needs to be as ubiquitous as Jace was. You can't just look at which card is "better" because with or without Chandra if red is uncompetitive in Standard she won't be in massive demand like Jace was.
So new Chandra just does everything... and better than most of her previous versions ever dreamed of.
I feel like this card is overly pushed. It's obviously not quite as bad as Jace, the Mind Sculptor, but it's a lot closer than I feel comfortable with. I know there are a lot of people that look at over-powered cards and say "Yay, I get to play over-powered cards!" but there are also a lot of us that look and say "gee, there goes part of the format."
I like planeswalkers as much as the next mook, but it really feels like they are pushing the margins lately. Between this, Liliana, the Last Hope, Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, and Jace, Vryn's Prodigy, that's one obviously pushed planeswalker in each recent block to say nothing of other decent walkers in the same sets. I understand that they need planeswalkers, and they need them to be mythic, and they need mythics to be good, but they are really starting to over-represent this particular card type on the power-pie.
While she looks like Mind Sculptor, she her abilities don't quite line up like his do. -1 Bounce a creature is usually better than -3 4 damage to one. +1 Get a free card or 2 damage to each opponent seems a bit weaker than 0 Brainstorm, but there will be times where it is better. +1 Add RR can be very powerful, but isn't as good at locking out a game as +2 fateseal. Both Ultimates will end a game in short order.
All of that said, the fact that she is even comparable to Mind Sculptor means she's busted as all hell. I'm expecting her to be around $50 in 3 months.
Nahiri and Chandra will be in the same standard together with Emrakul floating around......Just need some prison effects and you have a heal of a durdle burn superfriends deck.
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Chandra doesn't feel Jace The Mind Sculptor broken but a huge boon to red. Pair this with a few good red burn/creatures, wow. Chandra does everything you need her to do. So versatile. Card advantage, mana for her and a burn spell, remove a 4 toughness creature. Emblems/Ultimates really shouldn't be the basis of evaluating a PW since they rarely happen but if she hits that, if you have any burn, wow.
Tezzeret and Dovin Baan could be the planeswalkers in the duel decks ( or maybe Wizards will do right and print the chandra of the main set also in the planeswalker decks ).
Either way it will be fun: Chandra discovers that Baan killed her father, or Chandra battles Tezzeret maybe trying to protect her mother, or Dovin Baan discovers Tezzeret's plans and try to stop hin ( which can led us to the next block: Tezzeret takes control of Kaladesh, Dovin goes ask help to the Jace League, they go to Kaladesh and the rebelion starts, Tezz flee and goes to Bolas's new plane).
To be in the duel decks they'd still have to be in the actual set.
I believe this is incorrect and will only happen sometimes. Was it stated otherwise, link if so please.
It was never stated outright but these quotes from Maro have led people to believe that the PW decks will contain planeswalkers that already have cards in the set
Yeah, pre order prices always start inflated. She's good but given we haven't seen any other really good red cards and red is loosing a lot with rotation, she may be without a home for a bit. The pre order price will fall plus she's not quite powerful enough for modern in any red deck I know. Way too expensive for burn. Jeskai doesn't need those abilities. And there are better 4 drops for Delver(Grixis and Temur) decks.
On the other hand, she is super versatile so could go in more decks in standard than a normal Chandra would. If artifacts prove to be really good, Turn 3 Saheeli Turn 4 Chandra Turn 5 Metalurgic Summonings feels really powerful.
I also love that the first +1 isn't just a total whiff if you draw a land. Draw a land, still deal 2 damage. That was the issue with Narset: you'd wiff way too often.
Her ultimate says whenever you cast a spell. You ultimate her in any format and you will win on that same turn. Turn 7 at the most for her ultimate + two or three spells in standard.
Oath of Gideon into Chandra seems like trouble. Six loyalty with that ultimate coming quickly is messed up.
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Chandra is worth the wait! Whoa! Not a single bad ability! And she has 4!
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worth noting you can't get lands off of the first ability unlike pyromaster version....but you'll shock the opponent. Pretty decent trade-off. Wizards just thought of everything on this card.
Still kind of a bummer that you can't draw land cards with her. I've no doubt that there will me plenty of people making the mistake of not being able to "cast" a land card with her. I'm already imagining someone at 4 mana. Needs 5 but they keep exiling land cards. Then they finally have to use her mana ability. Red mana ramp is good. Turn five as long as you hit all of your land drops you can have 7 mana just using chandra by herself. Then if you ever get her ultimate off you just win the game.
fortunately they get two mana from the other +1!
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I think it's funny when every time a new 4 CMC walker seems good and everyone starts saying "wow, a new JTMS"
She's not... Wizards won't ever print another walker that powerful, that being said, this Chandra really does seem to be very good
I feel like she actually has 5 abilities, since that draw/damage +1 lets you make a choice between 2 effects (most of the time you get the damage on the first activation though). Card is F.L.E.X.I.B.L.E.
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Tezzeret and Dovin Baan could be the planeswalkers in the duel decks ( or maybe Wizards will do right and print the chandra of the main set also in the planeswalker decks ).
Either way it will be fun: Chandra discovers that Baan killed her father, or Chandra battles Tezzeret maybe trying to protect her mother, or Dovin Baan discovers Tezzeret's plans and try to stop hin ( which can led us to the next block: Tezzeret takes control of Kaladesh, Dovin goes ask help to the Jace League, they go to Kaladesh and the rebelion starts, Tezz flee and goes to Bolas's new plane).
To be in the duel decks they'd still have to be in the actual set.
I believe this is incorrect and will only happen sometimes. Was it stated otherwise, link if so please.
It was never stated outright but these quotes from Maro have led people to believe that the PW decks will contain planeswalkers that already have cards in the set
Emblems don't have colors, they're not permaments, and they sit in the Command zone where nothing can really interact with them, so even if it was red it wouldn't matter.
It's colorless, but that doesn't madder because it's in the command zone instead of the battlefield. It's basically an effect that lasts for he rest of the game.
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I think what the original question was getting at is would protection from red help here. The answer is no, but hexproof/shroud still would.
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Ahem...remember when Jace was $90 for just one? This Chandra is WAY better
I would say this is going to pre-order for $40. Whether or not it stays there is for debate, though I imagine $25 a pop for its time in standard isn't unreasonable.
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There is going to be far more Kaladesh opened than Origins, lil Jace is more easily splashed, and it depends on whether Chandra has the support she needs to be as ubiquitous as Jace was. You can't just look at which card is "better" because with or without Chandra if red is uncompetitive in Standard she won't be in massive demand like Jace was.
I feel like this card is overly pushed. It's obviously not quite as bad as Jace, the Mind Sculptor, but it's a lot closer than I feel comfortable with. I know there are a lot of people that look at over-powered cards and say "Yay, I get to play over-powered cards!" but there are also a lot of us that look and say "gee, there goes part of the format."
I like planeswalkers as much as the next mook, but it really feels like they are pushing the margins lately. Between this, Liliana, the Last Hope, Gideon, Ally of Zendikar, and Jace, Vryn's Prodigy, that's one obviously pushed planeswalker in each recent block to say nothing of other decent walkers in the same sets. I understand that they need planeswalkers, and they need them to be mythic, and they need mythics to be good, but they are really starting to over-represent this particular card type on the power-pie.
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All of that said, the fact that she is even comparable to Mind Sculptor means she's busted as all hell. I'm expecting her to be around $50 in 3 months.
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The second quote highly implies the decks will be planeswalkers that already feature in the set, though it isn't definitive.
Yeah, pre order prices always start inflated. She's good but given we haven't seen any other really good red cards and red is loosing a lot with rotation, she may be without a home for a bit. The pre order price will fall plus she's not quite powerful enough for modern in any red deck I know. Way too expensive for burn. Jeskai doesn't need those abilities. And there are better 4 drops for Delver(Grixis and Temur) decks.
On the other hand, she is super versatile so could go in more decks in standard than a normal Chandra would. If artifacts prove to be really good, Turn 3 Saheeli Turn 4 Chandra Turn 5 Metalurgic Summonings feels really powerful.
I also love that the first +1 isn't just a total whiff if you draw a land. Draw a land, still deal 2 damage. That was the issue with Narset: you'd wiff way too often.
Oath of Gideon into Chandra seems like trouble. Six loyalty with that ultimate coming quickly is messed up.
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fortunately they get two mana from the other +1!
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She's not... Wizards won't ever print another walker that powerful, that being said, this Chandra really does seem to be very good
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I think what the original question was getting at is would protection from red help here. The answer is no, but hexproof/shroud still would.
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